Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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The Judge is out on this one.
Probably shaking in fear that Roger Hayes might "arrest" him. :rolleyes:

I have heard (from someone who took part in the occupation of the court) that Mr Hayes was taken in custody at midnight, tried in a 'secret court' and thrown into jail for 2 years. So the judge needn't quake too much.

Anyone have anything regarding this claim about a secret court?
 
I have heard (from someone who took part in the occupation of the court) that Mr Hayes was taken in custody at midnight, tried in a 'secret court' and thrown into jail for 2 years. So the judge needn't quake too much.

Anyone have anything regarding this claim about a secret court?

The secret court. :rolleyes:

When conman Hayes did his "arrest a Judge" routine one of his marks was indeed jailed.Eerily similar to how Menards marks take the rap for his fantasy legal advice.

Hayes himself was recently locked up for refusal to pay his Council Tax. This was touted by the FOTL brigade as being a judgment passed by a "secret court".

A little research and common sense will show this to be complete bs.
 
But every freeman/sovereign citizen/flipping loon tells me that if I do the research I'll know that their way is indeed correct.

Granted all my legal research has been conducted in places where those folks aren't likely to look - court reports and decisions, law books published before 1900, etc., but I mean, sheesh...
 
But every freeman/sovereign citizen/flipping loon tells me that if I do the research I'll know that their way is indeed correct.

Granted all my legal research has been conducted in places where those folks aren't likely to look - court reports and decisions, law books published before 1900, etc., but I mean, sheesh...

Indeed.

"Do your own research", aka "Go to Youtube"
And
"Do your due diligence"

Are very typical FOTL mantras.

It's hilarious to watch tbh.
 
The secret court. :rolleyes:

When conman Hayes did his "arrest a Judge" routine one of his marks was indeed jailed.Eerily similar to how Menards marks take the rap for his fantasy legal advice.

Hayes himself was recently locked up for refusal to pay his Council Tax. This was touted by the FOTL brigade as being a judgment passed by a "secret court".

A little research and common sense will show this to be complete bs.

I was hoping not to have to do any research whatsoever:blush:...
 
I was hoping not to have to do any research whatsoever:blush:...

Well, I did. This is what the 'state-controlled media who are out to get him', better known as The Wirral News reported:

"Hayes was due to appear at Wirral Magistrates Court last week, but failed to attend.
A warrant was then issued for his arrest and police arrived at his home in Holland Road, Wallasey, on Saturday morning and took him to the court.
A spokesman for Merseyside Police confirmed their officers arrested businessman Hayes and transported him to Wirral Magistrates Court.
At the same court on Monday July 2 he was committed to prison for 21 days for arrears and costs of £1,477.14 and “wilful refusal” to pay.
The hearing in March last year had ended in chaotic scenes with dozens of people storming the Birkenhead courtroom.
Hayes had demanded District Judge Michael Peake take an “oath of office” before urging his supports to make a citizen’s arrest “under the Magna Carta”.
Footage captured by Hayes’ supporters showed how several people then burst forward towards the bench, forcing District Judge Peake to be removed for his own safety.
The court building was also closed while hundreds of people gathered on the streets outside. Six people were arrested."

So, Comfyslippers, you are right. A little research does the job.
 
As the FOTL-Wafflers will endlessy say:
"Do your due dilligence"
(FOTL-Waffles for "I have no answers that make sense in the real world")

A little research, not that it's needed, will prove that Menard, Hayes et al are nothing other than lying conmen promoting a very poorly thought out scam.
 
As the FOTL-Wafflers will endlessy say:
"Do your due dilligence"
(FOTL-Waffles for "I have no answers that make sense in the real world")
The "do your own research" line is the ultimate idiot filter, the conmen like Menard send the 'would be' freemen away to "research" and it takes a special kind of stupid to not discover that its all a pile of garbage and when the real idiots have risen to the surface and returned to the "master", it cant be that difficult to part them of what cash they have.
 
The "do your own research" line is the ultimate idiot filter, the conmen like Menard send the 'would be' freemen away to "research" and it takes a special kind of stupid to not discover that its all a pile of garbage and when the real idiots have risen to the surface and returned to the "master", it cant be that difficult to part them of what cash they have.



It also gives them an out for when the mark inevitably crashes and burns. If Menard simply said, "Do A, B then C", then it's clearly his fault when it doesn't work. But if the mark does "A, B then C", based on his own "research", then Menard or his ilk can say, "Well, you screwed up, everyone knows B is a mistake. You clearly didn't do your research on this issue..."
 
It also gives them an out for when the mark inevitably crashes and burns. If Menard simply said, "Do A, B then C", then it's clearly his fault when it doesn't work. But if the mark does "A, B then C", based on his own "research", then Menard or his ilk can say, "Well, you screwed up, everyone knows B is a mistake. You clearly didn't do your research on this issue..."

However... When Lance Thatcher was conned out of $800 by Menard, even though Lance did A,B,C and still ended up in jail/psych ward, Menard pinned the blame on the Judge :jaw-dropp

I suppose in that instance it was the Judge who hadn't done his own research.
 
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I suppose in that instance it was the Judge who hadn't done his own research.

Menard, Menard where for art thou?:D
Its like he never existed at all, not one person anywhere advocating Menards theories anymore, not even on WFS.
I dont even think Ickes has mentioned Menard for a while, not one new member in months (who hasnt been instantly banned ;))
I have gone through a few old freeman posts on Ickes and its amazing just how many people have been banned, whole threads of now banned members.

Maybe even Icke doesnt want to be associated with it.

I can almost see Menard wandering around the parks of Canada shouting "You can withdraw consent, I did it, look at me, you can live a life like mine, come join me we can be free, .......Ok then sorry I bothered you, do you have any change for an old soldier?" :rolleyes:
 
...I have gone through a few old freeman posts on Ickes and its amazing just how many people have been banned, whole threads of now banned members....

It's quite interesting to look back over ten years of insane internet ramblings.

How he changes his 'theories' at the drop of a hat, how he copies ridiculous notions from other gurus and calls them his own 'research'.

He is a psychiatrist's dream.

I forget if I, (or anyone else), has mentioned this before...
Nothing amazing, just throwing it into the pot...

His oft-used username of mrmitee is interesting.
(His Youtube Channel)
(Where, in 2012, he is claiming to be 28 years old!)

Godlike Productions - Member Profile: mrmitee
Look at the entry for "Company" (He joined in 2006)...

Organozone. Makers of Mr.Mite-E
Another lovely Angelfire hosted site from the past. (Again from 2006)
Click on "Notice of Claim of Exemption" and view the gibberish .pdf

I've also seen him recommend this product for keeping nasty creepy-crawlies off your home grown weed.

Unfortunately Menard doesn't clean up after himself so there is a wealth of information out there to prove,
as if proof was needed, that he is a conman.

Remember how he has helped thousands of people discharge their student loans?
studentloanclip.jpg

Thats from his PhotoBucket account. :)

But yes. His quietness of late is quite telling.
No updates to his ACCP-Scam site since around May.
(Around the time the woman helping him realised that Menard was a conman?)
A couple of daft internet radio interviews.
WFS dead as a doornail apart from the usual totally stoned fools.
DIF threads just full of nonsense.
A few posts I saw on some article where he says "What is the legal definition of 'name' " :)

....maybe he's got a proper job?
 
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It's quite interesting to look back over ten years of insane internet ramblings.

How he changes his 'theories' at the drop of a hat, how he copies ridiculous notions from other gurus and calls them his own 'research'.

He is a psychiatrist's dream.

I forget if I, (or anyone else), has mentioned this before...
Nothing amazing, just throwing it into the pot...

His oft-used username of mrmitee is interesting.
(His Youtube Channel)

Godlike Productions - Member Profile: mrmitee
Look at the entry for "Company"...

Organozone. Makers of Mr.Mite-E

Well, foolish me. I had associated that with James Thurber's Secret Life of Walter Mitty, who had nearly as active an imagination.
 
Well, foolish me. I had associated that with James Thurber's Secret Life of Walter Mitty, who had nearly as active an imagination.
I believe everyone did at the time, but he rather foolishly pointed us to his illegal venture himself.
 
Hi All,

Seems Rob`s still about as of Aug 8th. Found this on YouTube with Rob and Peter Valentine doing some obscure radio broadcast on a Vinny Eastwood prog NZ's Alternative Media. Rambling on and blaming the lawyers for making the laws etc. I only lasted 7 minutes !

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youtube.com/watch?v=GSpPFVAe3H4


mikeyman
 
Hi mikeyman.

Hi All,

Seems Rob`s still about as of Aug 8th. Found this on YouTube with Rob and Peter Valentine doing some obscure radio broadcast on a Vinny Eastwood prog NZ's Alternative Media. Rambling on and blaming the lawyers for making the laws etc. I only lasted 7 minutes !

Can't insert full link.

youtube.com/watch?v=GSpPFVAe3H4


mikeyman

Indeed.

It was promoted in advance over at WFS by Rob's partner in crime Peter:Valentine, who I think was also involved in the interview.

Upcoming Interview on the Vinny Eastwood Show

Personally, I seem to think I managed around twenty minutes.
 
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Lets not forget Robs wonderful "Ninjacat"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFXwjHqp-zs

:D
Oh yes. A classic that in no way reeks of paranoia. :D

"Coming Soon" was the usual tagline.

I suspect that Rob secretly wishes he could afford to travel to, and live in, America where he could get hold of guns, live in a hut and stock up on tinned food and colloidal silver whilst wearing camouflage gear.

Nutjob.
 
He can still do that in Canada - well, maybe not the guns, given Canada's decision to require a federal license to purchase firearms or ammo, but the requirements aren't what most of us call onerous - not have a criminal record, not be mentally unbalanced, show that you know the basics of firearms safety, and tha tyou know and understand the laws concerning the safe storage of firearms.

Oh, wait a minute, that would require him to be governed without consent...Nevermind
 
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