Moderated Will the 2012 Olympic Games in London be held?

[leonAzul]

Seven Steps to Heaven

Is this thread still on? Surely after the closing ceremonies, with no incidents beyond a rowdy cyclist, the veracity of this "spirit" has been entirely falsified, for certain values of "false".

 

[leonAzul]

I offered to translate too, pakeha, but I thing PC's gone off me a bit since I proved his dates were wrong as he failed to take account of the intercalary month in the Jewish calendar.

If I am not mistaken, the original is Tagalog, a very different language.

 

[Drs_Res]

Well, at this point I'm done with allowing PC to move goal posts.

Middle of the year windows by fail:

Goal Post Move|Window in days|End Date|Description
0|34|07/18/12|Last day of original *DDD
1|48|07/25/12|Last Wednesday before the start of the games
2|76|08/08/12|Last Wednesday OF the games
3|84|08/12/12|Last DAY of the games
4 | 104 | 08/22/12 | Last Wednesday before the Start of the Paralympics 5 | 132 | 09/05/12 | Last Wednesday of the Paralympic games 6 | 140 | 09/09/12 | Last DAY of the Paralympic games

*DDD=Drop Dead Date


Items in red are where this is heading, and I for one am not inclined to extend the middle of the of the year to 140 days out of 366. That's 38.25% of the year. Add to that the fact that he always said OLYMPICS and not PARALYMPICS.

So this is the last post of mine to this thread. I'm out of here. Buh bye.

 

[AdMan]

Well, at this point I'm done with allowing PC to move goal posts.

Middle of the year windows by fail:

Goal Post Move|Window in days|End Date|Description
0|34|07/18/12|Last day of original *DDD
1|48|07/25/12|Last Wednesday before the start of the games
2|76|08/08/12|Last Wednesday OF the games
3|84|08/12/12|Last DAY of the games
4 | 104 | 08/22/12 | Last Wednesday before the Start of the Paralympics 5 | 132 | 09/05/12 | Last Wednesday of the Paralympic games 6 | 140 | 09/09/12 | Last DAY of the Paralympic games

*DDD=Drop Dead Date


Items in red are where this is heading, and I for one am not inclined to extend the middle of the of the year to 140 days out of 366. That's 38.25% of the year. Add to that the fact that he always said OLYMPICS and not PARALYMPICS.

So this is the last post of mine to this thread. I'm out of here. Buh bye.

I'm not cutting PeaceCrusader any slack and allowing him to claim that the fake spirit was referring to the Paralympics--which are not the Olympics--the whole time.

The prophecy failed. Completely.

If PeaceCrusader were an honest man, he would have admitted this weeks ago. But he is a liar. That much is clear to anyone reading this thread.

“If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails and I will apologize to you and the others. I may withdraw my belief in Him and brand Him a false prophet. Prophecy differentiates the true God from the false gods. If the prophecy fails, then He must be a false god, an impostor. I say, if you were to believe in a god, be sure that He is the true God.

PC is now following what he has admitted must be a false god and an impostor.

 

[Akhenaten]

If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended,
That you have but slumber'd here
While these visions did appear.

So this is the last post of mine to this thread. I'm out of here. Buh bye.

Wise move. I'm done with it as well.

 

[blue sock monkey]

Goodness knows what the end will be--
Oh, I don't know where I'm at--
It looks as though we two will never be one--
Something must be done.


It's time for another look at the ol' prophecy-and-miscellaneous-claims scorecard:

The 2012 London Olympic Games will not be held.
FAIL. The Games held July 27-August 12 inclusive were a roaring success from start to finish.

The creepy decrepit actress old lady Ka Apaz is the reincarnation of an Egyptian princess named Reneliniyindi.
FAIL. The historical record does not support the existence of any such person.

The vile con artist old lady Ka Apaz is the reincarnation of the Virgin Mary, Joan of Arc and 174 other unnamed personages.
FAIL. No evidence has been proffered for these claims. Failed by default.

The outrageous charlatan old lady Ka Apaz is the preferred mouthpiece of Teh Holy Spook^TM.
FAIL. The facts that she has been observed to fall upon the floor, can count up to 8 people who are in the same room with her, converses in a deep voice, and sometimes babbles incomprehensibly do not begin to provide substantive evidence that she is anything other than a cunning elderly drama queen with a gullible audience.

In ancient times, the Jewish Passover was held at different times of the year due to the calendar used.
FAIL. Agatha demonstrated that PC’s calculations failed to take into account the intercalary month used to keep Passover in the spring.

Posted prophecies 1-19
FAIL. Please click here for Agatha’s admirable review of the individual prophecies.

Jesus’s lucky lotto number is 888.
FAIL. PC offers in evidence only that the arrangement of post office boxes in a certain Sydney post office confirms this claim. Pace Carl Jung, Hans Holzer, and Sybil Leek, I am unimpressed.

God will turn Foolmewunz into a newt.
FAIL. Foolmewunz has in fact recently embarked upon a new business venture, and shows no signs of overt or latent newtiness.

A human being will give birth to kittens and a cat will give birth to humans.
FAIL. I am rather disappointed no evidence on this gem has been put forward for our examination and edification.

"If World War III does not start before the 2012 Olympic Games in London, then I will say that He is a false god."
"If what I impart to you would not happen, I will recant what I said and apologize to all of you and will stop what I do on the Internet."
"Yes, Marcus, if the prophecies do not happen, not only will I stop believing in that spirit but also in Ka Apaz."
"Even though the Games will officially open tomorrow, 07-27, I cannot move the goal posts anymore because 07-25 is the last Wednesday for the month of July."
FAIL. PC has not recanted and continues to move the goalposts. See his recent posts for details about the Paralympics, the Devil, and the deep blue sea.

I've omitted some exceptionally silly claims about birds falling from the sky and a few other items simply because making the litany of failure any longer is too dreary.


PeaceCrusader, you are, IMO justifiably, losing your audience here at the Forum as more skeptics refuse to participate any longer in this thread. As I myself am now querulously squirrelless, I too may stop posting here, unless your future postings respond fully and sincerely to our questions, comments, and evidence.

 

[Mojo]

God will turn Foolmewunz into a newt.
FAIL. Foolmewunz has in fact recently embarked upon a new business venture, and shows no signs of overt or latent newtiness.

He got better.

 

[Mojo]

Items in red are where this is heading, and I for one am not inclined to extend the middle of the of the year to 140 days out of 366. That's 38.25% of the year.

Actually, he's already extended it to 50% of the year:

Is 08-08 still in the middle of the year? I believe so. It is in the third quarter. The second and third quarters are the middle of the year.

 

[anglolawyer]

As this thread continues its existence past the London Olympics and onwards into a bright and distant future, does anyone think newcomers to the forum might be somewhat confused by its title?

 

[Astreja]

I'm not sure if this question has already been asked, but I think it needs to be asked:

PeaceCrusader, do you want a worldwide nuclear war to break out? Yes or no answer, please.

 

[SezMe]

As this thread continues its existence past the London Olympics and onwards into a bright and distant future, does anyone think newcomers to the forum might be somewhat confused by its title?

Not to worry. There's countless threads around this joint that having confusing, misleading, or outdated titles. The parody threads being the chief culprits.

 

[rickps]

Thanks for the laughs everyone. This thread is done as far as I'm concerned. See you around.

 

[Femke]

6 Gold, 6 Silver, 8 Bronze

Same here. I've thoroughly enjoyed the splendid graphics, the light-hearted banter, the Thank God it's Thursday Survival Parties, and the intriguing numbers and citations. Thanks everybody.

Thanks to this thread the Olympics were even more memorable than they already were.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

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Neither the dating nor the prediction are correct, PC.
There is no doubt the 2012 Olympic Games are over.
There is no doubt your calculations are out of synch.


Why don't you Google the term Paralympic Games and find out for yoruself what they are?


Aren't lies bad enough?
The very first prince Philip lived long before the Common Era.
The story of Reneliniyindi is utter nonsense.
I can help you translate Spanish.
Post up the link to your source and let the good times roll, PC

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@pakeha, #3459
@Agatha, #3460

True, the 2012 Olympic Games in London is over. I accept that. My question is if the Olympic Games the same as the Paralympic Games. Both are staged in London this year. Despite your unbelief, I am still not giving up that the prophecies failed, one is because there is still the threat that World War III will start from Spratly Islands in the Philippines. As long as there is the Games in London in the middle of this year, there is the possibility that the prophecies will be fulfilled.

Thank you and Agatha for offering to help translate the Spanish text to English. The title is Inscripciones cristianas de la Espana Romana y Visigoda. I would like to know who the kings and/or princes during the first century AD. Also, it is said that the dating of the reign of kings was in reference to the date of Jesus Christ birth in 38 BC. As per my calculation, Jesus was born in 33 BC.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Kronenbourg 1664.

Just as an aside, what is the state of education in the Philippines? Today on another thread, a Filipino poster revealed that he didn't understand the difference between north and up into the air, and now Peace Crusader has calculated the Jewish calendar without ever learning about intercalary months or days. Sorry if this sounds like an attack; it's not intended to be, it's more that I am gobsmacked by these two things arising on the same day.

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@Agatha, #3450

Of course, I understand intercalary months or days. In the Jewish or Hebrew lunisolar calendar, a month is inserted to align the seasons to the dates on the 3rd, 6th, 8th, 11th, 14th, 17th, and 19th years, called the Metonic Cycle.

In the Gregorian solar calendar, a day called leap year day is inserted every four years except if the centennial year is divisible by 400. This is the reason why the Julian solar calendar was corrected by Pope Gregory XIII in 1582 because Easter was getting out of season. In the Julian calendar, a day is inserted every four years.

In the purely lunar calendar, like the Muslim’s Hegira lunar calendar, the moon’s cycle is followed and not the sun. So the calendar wanders through the season. Muharram, for example, is in autumn this year. Later, it will be in summer, spring, winter, and back to autumn.

 

[drewid]

Ah. Wikipedia.

 

[Agatha]

20120815.2100

@pakeha, #3459
@Agatha, #3460

True, the 2012 Olympic Games in London is over. I accept that. My question is if the Olympic Games the same as the Paralympic Games. Both are staged in London this year.

It's not the same, no.

Despite your unbelief, I am still not giving up that the prophecies failed, one is because there is still the threat that World War III will start from Spratly Islands in the Philippines. As long as there is the Games in London in the middle of this year, there is the possibility that the prophecies will be fulfilled.

If by "possibility" you mean "unlikely to the point of absurdity" then yes, I suppose you could say that. But it doesn't really matter, it's just a few more weeks out of your life that you are wasting on this nonsense.

Thank you and Agatha for offering to help translate the Spanish text to English. The title is Inscripciones cristianas de la Espana Romana y Visigoda. I would like to know who the kings and/or princes during the first century AD. Also, it is said that the dating of the reign of kings was in reference to the date of Jesus Christ birth in 38 BC. As per my calculation, Jesus was born in 33 BC.

Your calculations are wrong, because you did not allow for the insertion of the intercalary month every two or three years. It is absolutely not true, as you claim, that the Jewish festivals wandered through the year in Biblical times. This again is not opinion, but rock solid fact backed up by Jewish tradition and history, as well as the Bible.

This addition of the intercalary month in the Jewish calendar has been done at least since the writing of the Pentateuch, as it's explicitly commanded in Exodus that Passover must be celebrated in Nisan in the Spring, Shavuot must be the Harvest holiday and Sukkot the festival of gathering wheat. That's since 1400BC - 600 BC, depending on your view of the dates of the writing, so a long time before the birth of Jesus. Please modify your calculations to take account of this.

I am going out for lunch now but I will see if I can find your Spanish text later.

 

[Kid Eager]

20120815.2155

@dafydd, #3478

The prophecies include a world war from the Philippines. Much that I do not want any war, the prophecies say so. Are we overpopulated? If so, how can you reduce the population of this world? God said in Genesis 9:12-13, “And God said, this is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.” The bow in the cloud is the rainbow.

So God will not annihilate mankind by flood forevermore. It will be man who will kill his fellowmen, which God cannot control except to warn us. That is why there is prophecy, which John 16:13 states, “he will show you things to come.”

Can you not see the waste of spending on military hardware and personnel? Can you not see how man is polluting the environment? Have you not read how the garbage thrown by man in the river system ended up along the seawall in Roxas Boulevard in Metro Manila recently? Do you know how people are being indoctrinated that there is no God?

Ummm... that's not quite right: people are NOT being indoctrinated that there IS a god.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

20120815.2155

Are we overpopulated? If so, how can you reduce the population of this world?

God will not annihilate mankind by flood forevermore. It will be man who will kill his fellowmen, which God cannot control except to warn us.

Opinions may vary but I would regard, for example, contraception as a preferable method, rather than reducing our major cities to radioactive cinders.

Don't you think that it would be morally preferrable to give women control over their fertility rather than let the population rise and then slaughter billions in a war?

<edit> Let me put that another way: If you don't think that then you are a very strange fellow indeed.

 

[Mojo]

In the purely lunar calendar, like the Muslim’s Hegira lunar calendar, the moon’s cycle is followed and not the sun. So the calendar wanders through the season. Muharram, for example, is in autumn this year. Later, it will be in summer, spring, winter, and back to autumn.

Yes, but as has been explained to you the Jewish calendar at the date you are concerned with was not purely lunar because it had an intercalary month inserted when necessary.