swright777
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FBI 9/11 Investigations
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Apparently not in Trutherland.
You keep SPAMMING the same junk, right out of official US government reports, then you leap to delusional conclusions.
Some people can take the info you post and make Pulitzer Prize winning work, you take the info and jump into a big giant ocean of woo.
LSSBB
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According to page 301 of the Department of Justice Inspector General report, FBI IOS Agent Dina Corsi knew on August 22, 2001 that the CIA had the photograph of Walid bin Attash, mastermind of the USS Cole bombing, taken at the January 5-8, 2000 al Qaeda planning meeting. She already knew that Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar had been at that same al Qaeda planning meeting and at this point that all three had been involved in planning the bombing of the USS Cole at that meeting. Planning the bombing of the USS Cole was Federal crime. So she knew that there was no reason that this information should not immediately go to the FBI Cole bombing criminal investigators, FBI Agent Steve Bongardt and his team. She never gave this information to Bongardt or anyone else on his team This is a crime of withhold material information from an ongoing FBI criminal investigation of the Cole bombing. This is also proof of delaying, obstructing, and impeding a FBI official Federal criminal investigation, more crimes.
On August 22, 2001 she finds out that Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi are inside of the US and does not give this information to Bongardt or anyone on his team. This is yet, another crime, delaying and impeding a Federal FBI criminal investigation.
On Augusts 28, 2001 Bongardt found out that both Mihdhar and Hazmi are inside of the US when Corsi’s EC is accidentally routed to him. He calls Corsi and asks her to allow him to start an immediate investigation for these two al Qaeda terrorists before they have time to carry out a al Qaeda terrorist attack inside of the US.
Corsi tells Bongardt that since her EC to start an “intelligence investigation” for Mihdhar and Hazmi had a NSA cable in it, he was not allowed to even look at her EC, and tells Bongardt to destroy her EC. But Corsi's request to send this very NSA information to the FBI Cole bombing investigators in New York, Steve Bongardt and his team, had already been approved on August 27, 2001, by the NSA, so again she not only withheld this material information from him, but she also knew that she had no legal right to block his criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi. This is yet another crime withholding material information from an ongoing FBI criminal investigation.
After she tells him that he can have no role in any investigation for Mihdhar and Hazmi, Bongardt tells Corsi that he can see no connection to any FISA warrant, the only reason that the NSA would require written permission before their information was given to him and his team. He asked Corsi to get a legal ruling from the FBI NSLU attorneys to see if he can start a criminal investigation for Mihdhar and Hazmi. She tells him on August 29, 2001, that the FBI attorneys she had contacted had told her that he can have no role in any FBI investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi.
But page 538, footnote 81 of the 9/11 Commission report says, based on testimony given to DOJ IG investigators by Attorney Sherry Sabol on November 7, 2002 on the advice she gave to FBI Agent Dina Corsi, that she, (Sabol), gave Corsi on August 28, 2001, that since the NSA information had no connection to any FISA warrant, FBI Agent Steve Bongardt and his team can take part in or start any investigation for Mihdhar and Hazmi. This is yet another crime, lying to FBI criminal investigators.
On August 29, 2001 Corsi sent Bongardt an email that states “if at such time as information is developed of a substantial Federal crime, (by Mihdhar and Hazmi) this information will be passed over the wall”. So she was well aware that she was committing numerous Federal crimes in shutting down Bongardt's criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi, since she already had abundant evidence of numerous substantial Federal crimes by both Mihdhar and Hazmi.
On August 30, 2001 the CIA sends the photo of Walid bin Attash taken at Kuala Lumpur, to Rod Middleton, Dina Corsi’s supervisor, so he now has photographic proof that Mihdhar and Hazmi had taken part in the Cole bombing. Yet he never calls Bongardt back to allow him to start a criminal investigation for Mihdhar and Hazmi. Middleton had been on the phone with Corsi shutting down his FBI criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi so he is also well aware that he had no legal right to do this, yet further evidence of additional Federal crimes.
Bongardt had an extremely good chance to prevent the attacks on 9/11 had his investigation been allowed to start and proceed almost three weeks prior to the attacks on 9/11. What is most disturbing is that both the FBI HQ and the CIA knew about this huge al Qaeda terrorist attack about to take place inside of the US, and knew it would cause mass casualties, and even knew that Midhar and Hazmi were inside of the US in order to take part in this attack, yet both agencies allowed Corsi and Middleton, who were operating under the supervision of former CIA officer Tom Wilshire, to criminally shut down FBI Agent Steve Bongardt’s criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi.
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plague311
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Are there going to be any links to this stuff or is it all just going off of what you say? I am not going to dig through multiple reports to find specific quotes.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8537821&postcount=24
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7062359&postcount=177
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7297810&postcount=362
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7278431&postcount=313
You keep repeating this stuff, never made CNN, ABC, NBC, 60 Minutes, 20/20, CBS, FOX, etc.
Is it the fantasy conclusions that get your work rejected?
LSSBB
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The DOJ IG report is also known as the IG Review of the FBI’s Handling of the Intelligence Information Related to the September 11 Attacks, November 2004) Un-redacted version released in May 2006 also referred to as the DOJ IG report. I un-redacted this entire report in late 2004.
Here is the link for this document at http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/s0606/index.htm
Alias names used in the DOJ IG report:
Scott is aka Steve Bongardt, Donna is aka Dina Corsi, and Rob is aka Rod Middleton, Susan is aka, Attorney Sherry Sabol, Chad is aka Craig Donnache, Jason is aka John Liguori
According to page 301 of the Department of Justice Inspector General report, FBI IOS Agent Dina Corsi knew on August 22, 2001 that the CIA had the photograph of Walid bin Attash, mastermind of the USS Cole bombing, taken at the January 5-8, 2000 al Qaeda planning meeting. She already knew that Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar had been at that same al Qaeda planning meeting and at this point that all three had been involved in planning the bombing of the USS Cole at that meeting. Planning the bombing of the USS Cole was a major Federal crime. So she knew that there was no reason that this information should not immediately go to the FBI Cole bombing criminal investigators, FBI Agent Steve Bongardt and his team. She never gave this information to Bongardt or anyone else on his team This is a crime of withhold material information from an ongoing FBI criminal investigation of the Cole bombing. This is also proof of delaying, obstructing, and impeding a FBI official Federal criminal investigation, more crimes.
DOJ IG report Page 301/302
On August 22, 2001 she finds out that Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi are inside of the US and does not give this information to Bongardt or anyone on his team. This is yet, another crime, delaying and impeding a Federal FBI criminal investigation.
Page 301 DOJ IG report
On Augusts 28, 2001 Bongardt found out that both Mihdhar and Hazmi are inside of the US when Corsi’s EC is accidentally routed to him. He calls Corsi and asks her to allow him to start an immediate investigation for these two al Qaeda terrorists before they have time to carry out a al Qaeda terrorist attack inside of the US.
DOJ IG report 304/305/306
Corsi tells Bongardt that since her EC to start an “intelligence investigation” for Mihdhar and Hazmi had a NSA cable in it, he was not allowed to even look at her EC, and tells Bongardt to destroy her EC. But Corsi's request to send this very NSA information to the FBI Cole bombing investigators in New York, Steve Bongardt and his team, had already been approved on August 27, 2001, by the NSA, so again she not only withheld this material information from him, but she also knew that she had no legal right to block his criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi. This is yet another crime withholding material information from an ongoing FBI criminal investigation.
DOJ IG report page 306, the NSA release to Corsi is DE #448
After she tells him that he can have no role in any investigation for Mihdhar and Hazmi, Bongardt tells Corsi that he can see no connection to any FISA warrant, the only reason that the NSA would require written permission before their information was given to him and his team. He asked Corsi to get a legal ruling from the FBI NSLU attorneys to see if he can start a criminal investigation for Mihdhar and Hazmi. She tells him on August 29, 2001, that the FBI attorneys she had contacted had told her that he can have no role in any FBI investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi.
DOJ IG report page 306-307, 9/11 Commission report page 538
But page 538, footnote 81 of the 9/11 Commission report says, based on testimony given to DOJ IG investigators by Attorney Sherry Sabol on November 7, 2002 on the advice she gave to FBI Agent Dina Corsi, that she, (Sabol), gave Corsi on August 28, 2001, that since the NSA information had no connection to any FISA warrant, FBI Agent Steve Bongardt and his team can take part in or start any investigation for Mihdhar and Hazmi. This is yet another crime, lying to FBI criminal investigators.
DOJ IG report Page 308
On August 29, 2001 Corsi sent Bongardt an email that states “if at such time as information is developed of a substantial Federal crime, (by Mihdhar and Hazmi) this information will be passed over the wall”. So she was well aware that she was committing numerous Federal crimes in shutting down Bongardt's criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi, since she already had abundant evidence of numerous substantial Federal crimes by both Mihdhar and Hazmi.
DE #682, defense exhibit entered into the Moussaoui trial, these are located at: http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/defense.html
On August 30, 2001 the CIA sends the photo of Walid bin Attash taken at Kuala Lumpur, to Rod Middleton, Dina Corsi’s supervisor, so he now has photographic proof that Mihdhar and Hazmi had taken part in the Cole bombing. Yet he never calls Bongardt back to allow him to start a criminal investigation for Mihdhar and Hazmi. Middleton had been on the phone with Corsi shutting down his FBI criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi so he is also well aware that he had no legal right to do this, yet further evidence of additional Federal crimes.
DOJ IG report page 310
Bongardt had an extremely good chance to prevent the attacks on 9/11 had his investigation been allowed to start and proceed almost three weeks prior to the attacks on 9/11. What is most disturbing is that both the FBI HQ and the CIA knew this huge al Qaeda terrorist attack about just to take place inside of the US, knew it would cause mass casualties, and even knew that Midhar and Hazmi were inside of the US in order to take part in this attack, yet both agencies allowed Corsi and Middleton, who were operating under the supervision of former CIA officer Tom Wilshire, to criminally shut down FBI Agent Steve Bongardt’s criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi.
DE #939 Defense Exhibit entered into the Moussaoui trial on March 11, 2006, DOJ IG report pages 301/302
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And the CRIME would be...?
According to page 301 of the Department of Justice Inspector General report, FBI IOS Agent Dina Corsi knew on August 22, 2001 that the CIA had the photograph of Walid bin Attash, mastermind of the USS Cole bombing, taken at the January 5-8, 2000 al Qaeda planning meeting.
She already knew that Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar had been at that same al Qaeda planning meeting and at this point that all three had been involved in planning the bombing of the USS Cole at that meeting. Planning the bombing of the USS Cole was a major Federal crime.
So she knew that there was no reason that this information should not immediately go to the FBI Cole bombing criminal investigators, FBI Agent Steve Bongardt and his team. She never gave this information to Bongardt or anyone else on his team.
This is a crime of withhold material information from an ongoing FBI criminal investigation of the Cole bombing. This is also proof of delaying, obstructing, and impeding a FBI official Federal criminal investigation, more crimes.
cjnewson88
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And this has to do what with the subject of this thread?
fess
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Just like listening to a scratched record, only twice as annoying.
ozeco41
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click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......click......
Do I give my age away?
The first 'Gramophone' I had access to had an acoustic trumpet mechanically coupled to the needle and a wind up handle for the clockwork mechanism.
..Oh - almost forgot...and a picture of a little doggie looking at a similar machine.
It is really annoying to discover that people in your own government allowed the attacks on 9/11 to take place because they illegally shut down FBI criminal investigations that could have prevented these attacks.
Why don’t you tell how annoyed you are to the families of the almost 3000 people killed on 9/11, maybe they can give you some sympathy for being so annoyed.
With your logic, why do we have car accidents? How much does the paloalto special algorithm cost?
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Funny thing is, you have provided zero evidence of a crime. What you have done is describe, over and over again an FBI supervisor doing their job of supervising. You have yet to provide any evidence the decisions were wrong in the first place. That in hindsight we wish they had made different decisions is immaterial. That you imagine - using the power of hindsight - they should have done things differently is immaterial. Every traffic accident is the result of a mistake. Every traffic accident could have been prevented. Not every traffic accident is the result of a conspiracy or a crime.paloalto said:And the CRIME would be...?
This is a crime of withhold material information from an ongoing FBI criminal investigation of the Cole bombing. This is also proof of delaying, obstructing, and impeding a FBI official Federal criminal investigation, more crimes.
Lie.
Lie.
triforcharity
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Why is it, that the US DOJ has yet to file any charges in this "case"?
I mean, how long does the paperwork REALLY take.....
I mean, how long does the paperwork REALLY take.....
ozeco41
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Time to get serious paloalto so let's see you:
1) Name the alleged crime - the correct legal name for the crime - not your truther vague verbiage;
2) Cite the statute under which the alleged crime is an offence;
3) Quote the relevant portion of that statute;
4) Identify the jurisdiction in which the crime can be tried;
5) Identify the elements of proof needed by that statute to establish that the crime has been committed;
6) Outline the evidence you would adduce as proof of each element.
Remembering that each element has to be proven to 'beyond reasonable doubt' and absence of any element means the charge cannot be sustained.
You have chosen to put your 'argument' in legal format. So be prepared to support it in legal format and the appropriate due process.
The questions I have asked are the minimum needed to establish a 'prima facie' case. i.e. that there is a case to be answered - the first step of getting through the door of the court.
AND it gets harder from there.
Truther Nonsense Trickery would not even get into court let alone survive for any time before one of the procedural challenges had you thrown out.
LSSBB
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Good outline Oz, bookmarked.
fess
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No, what annoys me is that there are people like you still dragging this MUCK around the internet claiming that thousands upon thousands of people were involved in covering up the most horrendous crime that ever happened in this country. Yet not one person of any consequence has come forward to substantiate this claim. If you were a person of honor, why haven’t you brought your information to the proper officials so that justice can be done?
Why haven’t you brought this information to the attention of those families? I’m sure they would be interested, especially the families of 346 of my brothers and sisters who perished on that day. I’m sure they will sympathize with you.