Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

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MaGZ said:
Should Sen. Reid be given the same treatment as Sen. Joseph McCarthy and be censured by the Senate for his behavior "contrary to senatorial traditions"?
http://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=true&doc=86
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Of course, I can't see any difference between McCarthy and Reid. I don't know why the senate isn't clambering for censure of Reid yet. Maybe you could start an internet meme i.e. Reid equals McCarthy and pressure the US Senate to censure him. I can really see this movement taking off big time. You might be able to get OT to head up the movement now that it looks like her run for a House of Representatives seat isn't going to work out for her.
 
thedopefishlives said:
Okay, that was good for a laugh, now do you have any actual evidence?
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Don’t you find it strange his grandfather gave him up to a communist pervert when Obama was ten years old? One explanation is the grandfather lost Obama in a gambling debt to Davis.
 
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JohnG said:
*I'm just following RP's lead of abbreviating for subtle dehumanization convenience....yeah, convenience,
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I am willing to let it slide because people from both sides of the aisle referred to President Clinton's successor as W.
 
MaGZ said:
Don’t you find it strange his grandfather gave him up to a communist pervert when Obama was ten years old? One explanation is the grandfather lost Obama in a gambling debt to Davis.
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Wow, you just go from tenuous assertion to tenuous assertion, don't you. You haven't even yet established the first, and you're already speculating on the reasons why.
 
thedopefishlives said:
Wow, you just go from tenuous assertion to tenuous assertion, don't you. You haven't even yet established the first, and you're already speculating on the reasons why.
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Well I just don’t buy the reason Stanley Dunham wanted Obama to have a Black role-model. If this was the case he could have found someone else. I suspect Dunham was a communist fellow traveler had knew Davis for several years.
 
Ladewig said:
I am willing to let it slide because people from both sides of the aisle referred to President Clinton's successor as W.
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Yes, but "W" was mostly used as a catchy and simple way to distinguish Bush junior from his father. I have no problem with abbreviations/initials/acronyms/whatever, per se. For example, "FDR" and "JFK", are perfectly appropriate but then the two full names in question really are genuinely long and benefit from the abbreviation in certain contexts. Abbreviating Obama to "O" just seems silly and feels more like a subtle form of disparagement than as a simple shorthand to save time and/or space. Think of it this way; somehow I don't think Robert will be referring to Ron Paul as "P" any time soon. At least not with a straight face.
 
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JohnG said:
Yes, but "W" was mostly used as a catchy and simple way to distinguish Bush junior from his father. I have no problem with abbreviations/initials/acronyms/whatever, per se. For example, "FDR" and "JFK", are perfectly appropriate but then the two full names in question really are genuinely long and benefit from the abbreviation in certain contexts. Abbreviating Obama to "O" just seems silly and feels more like a subtle form of disparagement than as a simple shorthand to save time and/or space. Think of it this way; somehow I don't think Robert will be referring to Ron Paul as "P" any time soon. At least not with a straight face.
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I will concede that your hypothesis may very well be true. In fact, in another thread I might even support that assertion as the best explanation for the behavior. But in this thread, I want to focus on facts rather than likelihoods. I am still hoping to get some useful information from Robert Prey before he decides that the thread has broken down and is no longer worth participating in.



Yes, I understand that a number of japes will be directed at me for holding this position,

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MaGZ said:
Don’t you find it strange his grandfather gave him up to a communist pervert when Obama was ten years old? One explanation is the grandfather lost Obama in a gambling debt to Davis.
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Begging the question followed by fantasy presented as fact.

MaGZ said:
Well I just don’t buy the reason Stanley Dunham wanted Obama to have a Black role-model. If this was the case he could have found someone else. I suspect Dunham was a communist fellow traveler had knew Davis for several years.
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Argument from ignorance followed by fantasy presented as fact.

I'm not sure if they quite qualify as a Stundie but certainly a contender!
 
Lenbrazil said:
A couple more questions for Mr. Prey,

Do you think Obama didn't study at Columbia or that he studied there as a foreign student?

What evidence is there he ever adopted Indonesian citizenship and/or gave up his US citizenship?

You do know that living 3 years outside the US would not have effected his citizenship? Both my kids were born in Brazil to a Brazilian mother, though they have visited a few times they never lived in the US. They are teenagers, US citizens in good standing and could eventually be elected POTUS.
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I think Barack Hussein Obama is a 24 carat fraud, from beginning to end.
 
Robert Prey said:
It's the Demon Party. All evil; all liars.
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It is my goal to have a better understanding of your position.

How much of that should be interpreted as literal description and how much should be interpreted as hyperbole?
 
Ladewig said:
It is my goal to have a better understanding of your position.

How much of that should be interpreted as literal description and how much should be interpreted as hyperbole?
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You need proof? How about Debbiie Wasserman Schultz? That woman needs an exorcism.
 
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