Only a disinfo agent would say that no plane hit the Pentagon

[Voodoosix]

Witnesses can be plants.

i love when this canard gets trotted out.

troothers can be plants- ae911troof is a terrorist sleeper cell. richard gage's "official story®" doesnt add up so we can determine that he's part of a plot to kill krasnovians with controlled boredom. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!!

that or they just like attention and will take it where they can get it.

 

[Lanzy]

See that big 'ole hole in the pentagon pictures from that day?

A few weeks before, that was my office location. I had been moved across the building to work in my wife's office for awhile. Why isn't what actually happened awful enough for everyone? For those of us there that day it was plenty bad enough for all of us.

The conspiracy theories are beyond idiotic.

 

[dafydd]

See that big 'ole hole in the pentagon pictures from that day?

A few weeks before, that was my office location. I had been moved across the building to work in my wife's office for awhile. Why isn't what actually happened awful enough for everyone? For those of us there that day it was plenty bad enough for all of us.

The conspiracy theories are beyond idiotic.

They make idiotic look sane.

 

[Bell]

See that big 'ole hole in the pentagon pictures from that day?

A few weeks before, that was my office location. I had been moved across the building to work in my wife's office for awhile. Why isn't what actually happened awful enough for everyone? For those of us there that day it was plenty bad enough for all of us.

The conspiracy theories are beyond idiotic.

Oh my! You must have known a lot of people who died that day?

 

[dafydd]

Oh my! You must have known a lot of people who died that day?

Probably, which is why we should not laugh at truthers but despise them.

 

[LSSBB]

One of the dead was LCDR Patrick Murphy. He was on his two week Annual Training in the Navy center of the Pentagon. He left behind a family. He was real, and the people who worked with him were real, and the people who were on the plane were real, including the terrorists who piloted the plane and they have all sorts of evidence for.

Any Yahoo who pisses on that is contemptible. How you could prioritize your own inability to admit you are wrong over the very real tragedy that happened to those people is unbelievable. Debatable is one thing. Against overwhelming evidence to maintain your denial is:

Just

Plain

Wrong.

 

[dafydd]

One of the dead was LCDR Patrick Murphy. He was on his two week Annual Training in the Navy center of the Pentagon. He left behind a family. He was real, and the people who worked with him were real, and the people who were on the plane were real, including the terrorists who piloted the plane and they have all sorts of evidence for.

Any Yahoo who pisses on that is contemptible. How you could prioritize your own inability to admit you are wrong over the very real tragedy that happened to those people is unbelievable. Debatable is one thing. Against overwhelming evidence to maintain your denial is:

Just

Plain

Wrong.

Amen to that. You are assuming that truthers would know what a Yahoo is.

 

[JohnG]

Amen to that. You are assuming that truthers would know what a Yahoo is.

You'd think they would, considering they're always making a houyhnhnms' ass of themselves.

 

[dafydd]

You'd think they would, considering they're always making a houyhnhnms' ass of themselves.

You've lost them again there.

 

[Stamuel]

Witnesses can be plants. In an operation this large it would be surprising if they didn't plant any bogus witnesses. There are contradictions among the witnesses. <snip>

Or instead of planting witnesses, they could have simply flown a plane into the Pentagon. Then there would be real witnesses of a plane and no need for plants. Whether you accept the rational conclusion that this was the act of terrorists or you accept some bizarre delusion that the government conspired to attack itself, the no plane idea makes no sense.

The fact that the damage to the Pentagon did not look exactly the way an uninformed lay person might imagine it is not reason enough to conclude that over 100 witnesses are paid government liars who have been covering for the "real perpetrators" for over ten years. The fact that there were not thousands of high definition cameras aimed at that wall to film the plane hitting is not enough to conclude that Flight 77 managed to sneak unnoticed through the air over a busy city in broad daylight, while a missile snuck in undetected and hit the building.

 

[FatFreddy88]

Or instead of planting witnesses, they could have simply flown a plane into the Pentagon.

People who seem to know what they're talking about say it would have been impossible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5zvCdD9D1A

freddy the point of the thread is to remind you that as a Pentagon no planer

You're misrepresenting my position. Go back and look at my first post again. I think a craft did hit the Pentagon but I think it was much smaller than a 757.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8529151&postcount=17

 

[dafydd]

People who seem to know what they're talking about say it would have been impossible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5zvCdD9D1A

911 pilots? That tiny band of nutcases?

 

[A W Smith]

fat Freddy, regurgitating fantasies debunked since 2007

People who seem to know what they're talking about say it would have been impossible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5zvCdD9D1A

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=..._cp.r_qf.&fp=2f71e8da78d55b15&biw=924&bih=440

You're misrepresenting my position. Go back and look at my first post again. I think a craft did hit the Pentagon but I think it was much smaller than a 757.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8529151&postcount=17

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=..._cp.r_qf.&fp=2f71e8da78d55b15&biw=924&bih=440

 

[Bell]

People who seem to know what they're talking about say it would have been impossible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5zvCdD9D1A

I can't find the video of the Dutch TV show that did an item on this. They flew a professional simulator a half dozen or so times and each time the pilot had no trouble hitting the Pentagon.

 

[Voodoosix]

its towards the end here-


ive done on google earth's flight simulator (as per richard gage's challenge) and ive only been behind the controls of one small airplane.

 

[George 152]

I can't find the video of the Dutch TV show that did an item on this. They flew a professional simulator a half dozen or so times and each time the pilot had no trouble hitting the Pentagon.

It just shows that fat freddie has never flown an aircraft.
And those over in p4t are pretty much in the same boat

 

[Bell]

Thanks, Voodoosix.

 

[1337m4n]

There are contradictions among the witnesses.

That's evidence that they AREN'T "plants", not that they are. If they were government agents, they would all be telling the same story because they would be reading off memorized lines rather than reciting an actual personal experience.

 

[Bell]

That's evidence that they AREN'T "plants", not that they are. If they were government agents, they would all be telling the same story because they would be reading off memorized lines rather than reciting an actual personal experience.

I missed that comment by FF88.

Eyewitnesses are the *least* reliable source of information! Only when their accounts can be collaborated by physical evidence or multiple other eyewitnesses* their testimonies can be taken into account.

* And even then...

 

[swright777]

People who seem to know what they're talking about say it would have been impossible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5zvCdD9D1A
...

Why would you post that link after that sentence?

P4t != people who seem to know what they're talking about.