Merged AE911T's Experts Speak Out Tour

Oystein said:
The circus comes to NYC, and the "Remember Building 7" folks are spending dough on ads:

http://www.911blogger.com/news/2012...1truths-experts-speak-out-double-full-page-ad

Shall be interesting to monitor turnout and response at the "Petition". The Voice has a weekly circulation of 195,000. Seems like they say they spent something like $5,000 on this ad! I think it's in the June 20th issue. Any New Yorkers here who read The Voice?
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The Tour is history. What did they accomplish?

So far we have attendance statistics for 30 of the 35 gigs.

  • 2,769 people were counted at these 30 venues (average: 92.3)
  • 76.5% of these already believed in CD going into the cult servive
  • 5.1% only thought planse and fires did it (141 total, average: 4.7)
  • They "converted" 548 attendees (19.8%) from either undecided or rational believe to CD

If each attendee payed the nominal US$10 fee, they generated a revenue of roughly US$ 32,000 at the turnstile.

I won't guess how much they made with merchandize.

In addition, they had a fundraiser to raise "money for ESO Final Edition 2012 World Premiere" advertised on the a911truth front page. It runs until tomorrow; so far it raised just over US$ 4,000.


Looking specifically at NYC, where they spent 5,000 dollars or more of the "Remember Building 7" money on an ad in the Village Voice, the numbers are
  • gigs: 2
  • attendance: 364 (183+181)
  • believed fires brought down WTC before show: 13 (9+4; 3.6%)
  • believed in CD before show: 276 (137+139; 75.8%)
  • "converted": 77 (45+32; 21.2%)
These two gigs were indeed among the four largest turnout-wise. Probably impossible to guess if and how much the VV-ad had an impact on that. Even if half the attendees were lured by that add, and the all payed full admission, that amounted to only 1,800 dollars - less than half the cost of the ad. Would anybody bet they made up for that by diving into merchandize?


Coming back to the fundraiser: It's been going for almost 80 days, raised just over 50 dollars per day, or 115 per gig. Just enough perhaps to pay for Gage's hotel accomodation. Less than what they blew on the VV-ad alone.


In the meantime, since the tour started on may 21st (53 days ago, if I count right with two hands), only about 10 architects or engineers signed their petition. 0.2/day, they have never done worse. The month of june 2012 was in fact the worst month this petition has seen in its over 5 years, with only 2 new signatures.



Cost vs. Revenue - guestimates:

REVENUE
- Admission fees: 30,000
- Fundraiser: 4,000
- Merchandizing: 10,000 (profit; after deducting production cost)
TOTAL: 35,000

COST
- 35 venues: 5,000
- Travelling: 3,000
- Hotel and dining, 41 nights: 6,000
- Advertizing: 2,000
- Other: 2,000
- Richard Gage personal wages: 12,000
TOTAL: 30,000

It seems possible that the Tour made enough money to pay Gage's wages, but very little on top of that.
 
The ESO "world premiere" tour started 71 days ago and ended 20 days ago, on july 12th.

Gage did 35 gigs.
For 30 of these we have attendance counts.
When I extrapolate these counts by a factor of 35/30, these are the sums:
  • Total attendance: 3230
  • Believed in CD woo before the gig: 2471 (76.5%)
  • Believed fires brought down towers before gig: 164 (5.1%)

In 22 of these gigs, they also counted the number of architects and engineers in attendance. Again, when I extrapolate, by a factor of 35/22 this time, I estimate that a total of 52 architects and 202 engineers saw Gage present woo.

After the shows, 96.3% of all attendees indicated that they now believed in the CD theory - so one would expect that 245 A&E professionals are now convinced that a new investigation is necessary, and many should have rushed to their internet-connected computers and signed the "petition", right?


Well, wrong.


There are now actually only 2 professionals on the list of A&E signers that clearly filled out the form after the tour started:
Brad Will an architect from NY, who first appeared on the list on july 26th, but whose ProfileID 967238 was created around the end of june,
Henry G. Sullivan, an business man with an engineering degree, who signed ca. july 27th.

Before these two, the last signers were six people whose ProfileIDs I can date to appropximately may 17th to may 25th. The tour started on the 22nd in California. Four of the six are from states that Gage had not come close to by the time they signed. Two are from California:
Muriel Strand - signed ca. may 21st
Steve Asimow - signed ca. may 25th

None of the four who could potentially have seen the ESO tour before signing indicates in their profiles that they saw Gage live. And anyway, 4 signers in 50 days is less than even the dying white noise.

(Most signers apparently are verified within four weeks, but some take a little longer, so it is possible that one of the ca. 250 A&E on the tour shows up [ETA]later[/ETA])


It seems that the grand world premiere tour had ZERO impact so far on the professional community - Gage probably convinced not a single one to sign his petition!
 
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Wow. Thanks very much for that, Oystein.

I bet the AE website puts a different spin on the tour... ;)
 
Orphia Nay said:
Wow. Thanks very much for that, Oystein.

I bet the AE website puts a different spin on the tour... ;)
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Just been reading blog entries on the website. Not much about what happened at the meetings. But there are a few good gems

Our full-page ad in the Washington City Paper, funded by a generous donor, brought in about two dozen people
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Source http://www2.ae911truth.org/events/e... Francisco&cityname2=#WASHINGTONdiary_01_FULL

A full page ad in a paper would cost heaps and to get only 24 people as a result to attend is very expensive.
 
rjh01 said:
A full page ad in a paper would cost heaps and to get only 24 people as a result to attend is very expensive.
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The Washington City Paper is a weekly "alternative news" paper. I doubt it cost him more than $50. One thing, He picked the right paper to advertise Gages' show.

:rolleyes:
 
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Oystein said:
It seems that the grand world premiere tour had ZERO impact so far on the professional community - Gage probably convinced not a single one to sign his petition!
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He don't care. To me that's about $30K in ticket sales and I bet he sold a ton of merch.

Carnies and rubes my friend. Carnies and rubes... :D
 
rjh01 said:
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A full page ad in a paper would cost heaps and to get only 24 people as a result to attend is very expensive.
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They had a full-page ad in the Village Voice in New York, and apparently that cost them between $5,000 and $8,000, payed from the "Remember Building 7" money. The two shows in NYC had 364 attendees, that's $3,640 from entrance fees. Of course not all of these people came because of the VV ad. So this advertisement cost money - but it wasn't directly Gage's money. He probably can't skim off the RB7 money directly into his purse, so he can be happy that they are using it to lure paying sheep to Dick's own cashiers.


This is all further proof of the total political non-effectiveness of their campaign and the dwindling financial rewards; Gage is milking the cow as long as he can.


Can't wait for the 2011 tax file...
 
Oystein said:
The ESO "world premiere" tour started 71 days ago and ended 20 days ago, on july 12th.

Gage did 35 gigs.
For 30 of these we have attendance counts.
When I extrapolate these counts by a factor of 35/30, these are the sums:
  • Total attendance: 3230
  • Believed in CD woo before the gig: 2471 (76.5%)
  • Believed fires brought down towers before gig: 164 (5.1%)

In 22 of these gigs, they also counted the number of architects and engineers in attendance. Again, when I extrapolate, by a factor of 35/22 this time, I estimate that a total of 52 architects and 202 engineers saw Gage present woo.

After the shows, 96.3% of all attendees indicated that they now believed in the CD theory - so one would expect that 245 A&E professionals are now convinced that a new investigation is necessary, and many should have rushed to their internet-connected computers and signed the "petition", right?
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They now have stats for 33 of 35 gigs (Minneapolis and San Francisco still missing), and the numbers change slightly:

When I extrapolate these counts by a factor of 35/33, these are the sums:
  • Total attendance: 3230 3154
  • Believed in CD woo before the gig: 2471 (76.5%) 2429 (77.0%)
  • Believed fires brought down towers before gig: 164 (5.1%) 151 (4.8%)

In 22 23 of these gigs, they also counted the number of architects and engineers in attendance. Again, when I extrapolate, by a factor of 35/23 this time, I estimate that a total of 52 53 architects and 202 198 engineers saw Gage present woo.

After the shows, 96.3% 96.5% of all attendees indicated that they now believed in the CD theory - so one would expect that 245 242 A&E professionals are now convinced that a new investigation is necessary.
 
Oystein said:
<...>After the shows, 96.3% 96.5% of all attendees indicated that they now believed in the CD theory - so one would expect that 245 242 A&E professionals are now convinced that a new investigation is necessary.
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Hmmm. Let me guess... The petition doesn't reflect that.

Mind you, those stats don't show that those architects & engineers didn't believe in CD beforehand.
[ETA: Unless I'm reading you wrong. It's happy hour here in Oz. :)]

The stats do show that Gage was basically preaching to the converted, so I'm sure his number of professionals signing will continue to be minute.
 
Orphia Nay said:
Hmmm. Let me guess... The petition doesn't reflect that.

Mind you, those stats don't show that those architects & engineers didn't believe in CD beforehand.
[ETA: Unless I'm reading you wrong. It's happy hour here in Oz. :)]

The stats do show that Gage was basically preaching to the converted, so I'm sure his number of professionals signing will continue to be minute.
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The petition simply isn't growing. During the summer months, they had only one new A&E every 10 days, and I see no indication that the very few who signed after the tour started in May visited any of the shows.

So regardless of whether the ca. 250 A&E at the show believed in CD before or not, none signed after. For each of them, I see these possibilities:
  1. He had already signed before the tour started
  2. He doesn't know about the petition, wasn't told to sign it
  3. He doesn't care
I think the most benevolent interpretation of this utter lack of new A&E petitioners is that Gage is contented with 1700 signatures and simply doesn't advertise it any longer and doesn't ask his audiences to sign. Their flashy website 911expertsspeakout.org for example makes no mention of the possibility to sign, but does have a direct link to the current new petition on change.org.

It makes me wonder why they keep the old petition open. They must be aware that it is not growing any longer, AND should be aware that we (I) are monitoring and documenting that failure.
 
Orphia Nay said:
Yes to all of the above. :)
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Actually, there are more possibilities:

4. Raised hand without actually being a degreed A or E
5. Was counted despite not raising hand or being there
6. Was counted more than once (i.e. went to more than one show)

:D
 
What's up with AE911 calling every single screening of that Experts Speak Out video a "World Premiere"? There is yet another one tomorrow in the Bahamas - and they already had more than 30 of them.
 
Muc said:
What's up with AE911 calling every single screening of that Experts Speak Out video a "World Premiere"? There is yet another one tomorrow in the Bahamas - and they already had more than 30 of them.
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Jeez Louweez, you can watch the whole damned thing on YouTube. I did, but had to pause from time to time to allow my blood pressure to subside.

Mostly, the effect on me was deep embarrassment over these professionals making fools of themselves, and for their professions in general.
 
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