BBC now admits al qaeda never existed

seems to me there are travel warnings by the US State dept concerning Latin American. Antarctica danger is again mostly weather related (penguins notwithstanding) and again I must agree that complaints about weather dangers have received almost no proactive response from anyone.
 
The Acille Lauro(sp?) was quite definitly a terrorist attack and was pursued by The intelligence agencies of several countries.
Achille Lauro: Loud mouthed tourist thinks because he sits in a wheel chair that terrorists won't hurt him. Said tourist is jew and apparently jew trumps wheelchair so said tourist finds out wheel chairs are not flotation devices. Balance: one dead due to drowning. Next biggest attack of same terrorist group is speed boat attack on Israeli beach. Balance: zero dead.


So we have terrorist attacks on a large scale


I take you would not consider this to be an indication that the steps taken since 9/11 have been effective in forcing Jihad to rely on lightly supported individual efforts as opposed to more detailed and complex attacks. ?
Actually yes. Some steps I deem excessive and unwarranted.


Do you presume as well that those radicals have now abandoned forever any thought of attempting more complex and detailed attacks?
I presume such complex and detailed attack as 911 shouldn't have happened in the first place and is a fluke. Nor can it ever happen again as already on 911 itself passengers supposedly were rising up.

Perhaps you'd prefer the term be changed to the "war on individual and ineffective nutjobs"
Sure. After all, I wonder what the score card would be in the following : joker entering US cinema - all muslim terrorist attacks since 911 on US soil combined?
 
Al Qaeda is one of the biggest brand names for an undeniable phenomenon, Islamic terrorism. Look over the list of terrorist incidents worldwide for 2011 and 2012 and tell us with a straight face that there is no Islamic terrorism in the world.
Look at "location" in the lists and tell me with a straight face there is a terrorist problem in the US.
 
Look at "location" in the lists and tell me with a straight face there is a terrorist problem in the US.

Why would I tell you that? I wasn't aware that I claimed any such thing. I was responding to your equivocation between the Bin Laden-led Al Qaeda of 2001 and Islamic terrorism today. And boy is it an equivocation. In fact your posts don't make very much sense since they confuse what has happened with what is happening now.

The 'war on terror' was declared by Bush in 2001 after 9/11. The Obama administration doesn't use that term. It has also pulled out of Iraq and is seeking to extricate itself from Afghanistan. The 'war on terror' in a strict sense had a moment of closure with the death of Bin Laden over a year ago, although the Bin Laden-led organisation of Al Qaeda continues to exist with Zawahiri, a founder member, now supposedly in charge.

Meanwhile, the Al Qaeda brand of Islamic terrorism has gone viral and inspires small groups and lone wolves to attempt various attacks with varying degrees of success. In Spain and London they were very successful. In other places not so much.

Currently, like all presidential administrations since the 1970s, the US federal government remains vigiliant regarding the possibility of attacks on US interests overseas as well as domestic terrorist incidents in the mainland United States. The FBI and local law enforcement have foiled a number of plots over the years. The absence of major terrorist attacks would seem to be an indicator that investing resources in homeland security has worked.

Since the Bush administration ended, there hasn't been nearly as much talk in the media about terrorism, for a few simple reasons: firstly, there has been a global recession which consumes a lot of attention; secondly, nobody is especially interested in stirring up panics (unless they're Alex Jones or a conspiraloon, of course) so it's become a back-burner issue. Terrorism has been a running issue since the early 1970s, and never went away entirely. Coverage and reporting on the potential domestic threat is much less than it was in the early 200s, though it has not gone away entirely, and won't do.

That's why you're equivocating between 2002 and 2012. We know the difference; do you?
 
I recall Ronald reagan declaring a war on terrorism in the 1980s...
 
Achille Lauro: Loud mouthed tourist thinks because he sits in a wheel chair that terrorists won't hurt him. Said tourist is jew and apparently jew trumps wheelchair so said tourist finds out wheel chairs are not flotation devices. Balance: one dead due to drowning. Next biggest attack of same terrorist group is speed boat attack on Israeli beach. Balance: zero dead.
Yup. Internet tough guy. Great act, I bet it really impresses young, uneducated angry white men.
 
Achille Lauro: Loud mouthed tourist thinks because he sits in a wheel chair that terrorists won't hurt him. Said tourist is jew and apparently jew trumps wheelchair so said tourist finds out wheel chairs are not flotation devices. Balance: one dead due to drowning. Next biggest attack of same terrorist group is speed boat attack on Israeli beach. Balance: zero dead.
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Yeah, of course, there were Jews on board so that justifies the armed takeover of a cruise ship and the tourists on board are not allowed to be pissed at the cowards that are holding them at gun point, especially if they are Jewish. Of course people killed by terrorists deserve what they get anyway,,,, oh excuse me,,, JEWS killed by Islamic terrorists deserve what they get.
I'd explain my sentiments towards you right now but I'd get suspended.:mad:






Actually yes. Some steps I deem excessive and unwarranted.
Great so you then know one reason why complex terrorist attacks have not again taken place in the Continental USA.
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Do you presume as well that those radicals have now abandoned forever any thought of attempting more complex and detailed attacks?
I presume such complex and detailed attack as 911 shouldn't have happened in the first place and is a fluke. Nor can it ever happen again as already on 911 itself passengers supposedly were rising up.

You presume that the next attack will use a public conveyance as the weapon? How stupid do you presume these people top be? How stupid are you trying to make me believe you are?

There may never be another large scale attack by Islamic groups within the USA. However, unlike you, I would not put bank on it.

Sure. After all, I wonder what the score card would be in the following : joker entering US cinema - all muslim terrorist attacks since 911 on US soil combined?

Well then you'd be happy to know that the FBI does indeed monitor all groups internal to the USA which have expressed sentiments that would indicate they are willing to carry out attacks on Federal building, bank robberies, etc.
In the case of individuals of course , unless they actully tell someone else about their plans its very difficult to see any advance warning of their intentions. Holmes purchased nothing at all that is illiegal to own in the USA.

There is really NOTHING preventing an Islamic terrorist from doing much the same as Holmes did. However the motivation with a terrorist is to not only kill Americans but to disrupt the US economy. It is the wealth and power of the USA that they are attacking and thus air travel is one focus. All one need do is look at the structures attacked , the WTC towers and the Pentagon (we'll discount Flt 93 since its unclear what its target was). Symbols of American WEALTH and POWER.
In London what was attacked? The transit systems. London was brought to a halt.

Seems terrorists also want to make sure that their attacks cannot be mistaken for something else. A group walks into a mall and starts shooting,,, is that a gang shootout or a terror attack?
 
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Achille Lauro: Loud mouthed tourist thinks because he sits in a wheel chair that terrorists won't hurt him. Said tourist is jew and apparently jew trumps wheelchair so said tourist finds out wheel chairs are not flotation devices. Balance: one dead due to drowning. Next biggest attack of same terrorist group is speed boat attack on Israeli beach. Balance: zero dead.

And Simon's creditibility drops into the negative numbers...........
 
That's both dead and injured. But since I have not seen any Department of Lightning Security warning people not to go out on rainy days or Office for Beesting Protection with color coded threat levels, I guess it is a start for a measure.

Lol!

http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/outdoors.htm

The NWS has been issuing severe thunderstorm warnings for quite a while now.

But, it's off topic.....
 
Robrob writes:Notice the slight hint of antisemitism creeping into his posts?
Notice the obligatory CRYING ANTISEMITISM?

;)

Hint??
Crying??

Isn't it obvious now?

Achille Lauro: Loud mouthed tourist thinks because he sits in a wheel chair that terrorists won't hurt him. Said tourist is jew and apparently jew trumps wheelchair so said tourist finds out wheel chairs are not flotation devices. Balance: one dead due to drowning.
 
Wow, I had heard that you were a Jew hateing SOB but this really underlines it doesn't it now?
I am an anti semite now why? Pointing out that Leon Klinghoffer was killed for being a jew? I should have even denied that, it is not like jew is written on someone's forehead.


Yeah, of course, there were Jews on board so that justifies the armed takeover of a cruise ship and the tourists on board are not allowed to be pissed at the cowards that are holding them at gun point, especially if they are Jewish.
So there were other jews on board? Why weren't they killed then? Maybe it is true after all his wife pushed him overboard for the insurance money.
 
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I am an anti semite now why? Pointing out that Leon Klinghoffer was killed for being a jew? I should have even denied that, it is not like jew is written on someone's forehead.

Nah, you're an antisemite for being a holocaust denier.
 
Nah, you're an antisemite for being a holocaust denier.
Fine, so be it. But what I said in this thread is not anti semite and even you seem to realize this by dragging other threads into this.
 
No, that merely makes one an idiot. It's when one brings up people being Jewish for no reason one is willing to explain in entirely separate threads that people look askance.
Notice the obligatory CRYING ANTISEMITISM?

;)

Yes, incredulity, we know. You do realize that, sheerly on numbers, some HDs are going to be, in fact, anti-semite?
 

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