Scientology abandoned by Hubbard's granddaughter & Miscavige's father

Justinian2 said:
Not likely. I gave someone an introductory session and asked a list of questions on the Emeter designed to find out why he was there. After the list the session would have begun. The intro session usually began after the list. I asked one question and the Emeter needle gave a large fall. I asked "What's that?" I had to move the knob a considerable distance to get the needle back on the dial. He said "Nothing". He never revealed what made the needle move so vigorously. I told him he should go to the examiner and ask for another auditor because I wasn't allowed to audit him over a withhold. He went to the examiner and said "I'm satisfied and had a floating needle." Then he hastily departed. I wrote the session up and sent it to the right places.
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What a farrago of nonsense. Utterly unintelligible. Are you serious?
 
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Justinian2 said:
Not likely. I gave someone an introductory session and asked a list of questions on the Emeter designed to find out why he was there. After the list the session would have begun. The intro session usually began after the list. I asked one question and the Emeter needle gave a large fall. I asked "What's that?" I had to move the knob a considerable distance to get the needle back on the dial. He said "Nothing". He never revealed what made the needle move so vigorously. I told him he should go to the examiner and ask for another auditor because I wasn't allowed to audit him over a withhold. He went to the examiner and said "I'm satisfied and had a floating needle." Then he hastily departed. I wrote the session up and sent it to the right places.
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Cool story, bro.

What about LRon claiming to have healed himself from very (fictional) debilitating combat wounds using Dianetics?
 
dafydd said:
Yea, right. Are you still watching me? That must be a good experience for you. People often say that I have the physiognomy and physique of a Greek god.
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This one?

Dionysus The god of wine, parties and festivals, madness, chaos, drunkenness and pleasure at forever young. He was depicted in art as either an older bearded god or a pretty effeminate, long-haired youth.
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The Dark Lord said:
Cool story, bro.

What about LRon claiming to have healed himself from very (fictional) debilitating combat wounds using Dianetics?
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If he's trying to make Freezonia look completely ridiculous then he couldn't do a better job. I believe he is an anti-$cientology disinfo agent.
 
tsig said:
This one?
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Mmmmmm.... pretty and a bit feminine, but getting old. I used to have an avatar here of me until too many people mistook me for a woman. Excuse me. I simply must pluck my eyebrows.
 
Justinian2 said:
Not likely. I gave someone an introductory session and asked a list of questions on the Emeter designed to find out why he was there. After the list the session would have begun. The intro session usually began after the list. I asked one question and the Emeter needle gave a large fall. I asked "What's that?" I had to move the knob a considerable distance to get the needle back on the dial. He said "Nothing". He never revealed what made the needle move so vigorously. I told him he should go to the examiner and ask for another auditor because I wasn't allowed to audit him over a withhold. He went to the examiner and said "I'm satisfied and had a floating needle." Then he hastily departed. I wrote the session up and sent it to the right places.
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That's nice.

Can you direct me to the scientific journals in which the papers that test the claims made in Dianetics were published, please?
 
Justinian2 said:
The church under Hubbard was different. At Hubbard's church a female auditor pulled my withholds so hard for so long that after a couple of hours of session she saw a meter read and said "What's that?" I had to tell her it was my erection. She asked "What's that again" and I replied "I love you". That was the end of the session. My mind was in a happy place and my face was flushed.
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This has got to be a joke. It reads like some kind of parody.
 
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''My mind was in a happy place and my face was flushed.''

Don't pull your ear and your face won't flush.
 
Justinian2 said:
I had a friend that tested the Emeter at grad school. He said it didn't work. He got it wrong. He just didn't know how to use it. All auditors have gotten fantastic results with it. With us it's as real as 2 + 2 = 4. I don't care how many degrees a person has, I'm not going to believe that 2 + 2 = 5. It's that simple and obvious to me. It's so obvious that it's boring to argue. The emeter works - but it isn't a lie detector.
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Evidence please. And no, anecdotes won't cut it. I'm not an electronics wiz but I do know some people that are. I'd love to get hold of one of these things and check out the internals.
 
dafydd said:
Of course. Ron the Con was never wounded and never used Diantetics to heal himself. We've wandered a long way from the topic of thread, which is about people who have regained their sanity leaving the cult.
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I was just being facetious, it seemed a little redundant for you to point out "of course, it's a lie" when people were actively in the middle of pointing out why it was a lie. Apologies.
 
So? Joesph abandoned Christianity and so did 12 of Jesus' nephews. So says my seer stone. Mormon seer stone be praised. Amen.
 
Justinian2 said:
Not likely. I gave someone an introductory session and asked a list of questions on the Emeter designed to find out why he was there. After the list the session would have begun. The intro session usually began after the list. I asked one question and the Emeter needle gave a large fall. I asked "What's that?" I had to move the knob a considerable distance to get the needle back on the dial. He said "Nothing". He never revealed what made the needle move so vigorously. I told him he should go to the examiner and ask for another auditor because I wasn't allowed to audit him over a withhold. He went to the examiner and said "I'm satisfied and had a floating needle." Then he hastily departed. I wrote the session up and sent it to the right places.
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And I'm sure that anecdote reinforced some dogma for you.

So you've essentially just admitted that only people who accept things for unsound reasons are coincidentally open enough to see the benefits of your religion. It's the classic "faith" con.
 
Justinian2 said:
Once again:
The church under Hubbard was different. At Hubbard's church a female auditor pulled my withholds so hard for so long that after a couple of hours of session she saw a meter read and said "What's that?" I had to tell her it was my erection. She asked "What's that again" and I replied "I love you". That was the end of the session. My mind was in a happy place and my face was flushed.
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I know it works, because Boner!
 
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