Scientology abandoned by Hubbard's granddaughter & Miscavige's father

[DuvalHMFIC]

There are about 5 Fifteen thousand word encyclopedias worth of information at my disposal. I, however, draw my answers from in addition to 40 years experience in Scientology because it gives a personal touch to the information and it provides a synopsis - you don't want to read a book or I presume you would have.

Clambake has much hearsay information in their archives. There are also several books on Scientology written from dissatisfied customers.

The Freezone uses a rundown to audit out Miscaviges' Church of Scientology It gets fantastic results. We know EXACTLY what all the problems are.

Books boasting big numbers really get you all hot and bothered, don't they?

 

[The Dark Lord]

From my own personal experience, one can discover a process to run on one's self to heal conversion disorders.



A conversion disorder could be considered a war injury - sort of.

Plausible? In every way.

He claimed he healed himself from physical injuries. You fail.

 

[Justinian2]

Books boasting big numbers really get you all hot and bothered, don't they?

What better describes Scientology, 100,000 pages or one, perhaps two?

 

[DuvalHMFIC]

From my own personal experience, one can discover a process to run on one's self to heal conversion disorders.



A conversion disorder could be considered a war injury - sort of.

Plausible? In every way.

In what way is that an "injury." He claimed to be "injured" in combat, causing blindness. I have NEVER heard someone with PTSD say that it was an "injury." It's a disorder.

You are being dishonest-yet again. A conversion disorder is just that-a disorder.

 

[dafydd]

What better describes Scientology, 100,000 pages or one, perhaps two?

Two words. Total bollocks. I like playing this game that you invented. Are you pleased to see me or is that a copy of Dianetics in your pocket?

 

[DuvalHMFIC]

What better describes Scientology, 100,000 pages or one, perhaps two?

It depends. If the 100,000 pages were written by a known liar, then they are worthless.

I'll point you again to my manual on how to build a crib for my new baby. It was 2 pages, and it contained all the useful information, safety guidelines included, that I needed to soundly build the crib.

If I were to write a 100,000 page book describing the FSM, does that make the FSM any more valid?

 

[dafydd]

In what way is that an "injury." He claimed to be "injured" in combat, causing blindness. I have NEVER heard someone with PTSD say that it was an "injury." It's a disorder.

You are being dishonest-yet again. A conversion disorder is just that-a disorder.

What do you expect? $cientology is based on a lie.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

There are about 5 Fifteen thousand word encyclopedias worth of information at my disposal. I, however, draw my answers from in addition to 40 years experience in Scientology because it gives a personal touch to the information and it provides a synopsis - you don't want to read a book or I presume you would have.

I'm glad you've got all that information at your fingertips. You see, I did read a book - Dianetics and in it L. Ron Hubbard unequivocally claims that the things he says in the book are proven scientific fact. However the book has no references at all. Using your 5 fifteen thousand word encyclopaedias' worth of information and 40 years experience in Scientology, can you direct me to the scientific journals in which the papers in which the claims of Scientology were tested are published, please?

 

[dafydd]

I'm glad you've got all that information at your fingertips. You see, I did read a book - Dianetics and in it L. Ron Hubbard unequivocally claims that the things he says in the book are proven scientific fact. However the book has no references at all. Using your 5 fifteen thousand word encyclopaedias' worth of information and 40 years experience in Scientology, can you direct me to the scientific journals in which the papers in which the claims of Scientology were tested are published, please?

Ask him to find the Lost Chord too. He seems to forget that $cientologists are not the only ones who know all about $cientology.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

What better describes Scientology, 100,000 pages or one, perhaps two?

Well, I've only read Dianetics, but that just kept repeating the same information over and over again. It even explicitly says in the introduction that it's just going to keep repeating itself over and over again.

Page count =/= content.

 

[dafydd]

Well, I've only read Dianetics, but that just kept repeating the same information over and over again. It even explicitly says in the introduction that it's just going to keep repeating itself over and over again.

Page count =/= content.

''Information'' is stretching it a bit.

 

[Justinian2]

I'm glad you've got all that information at your fingertips. You see, I did read a book - Dianetics and in it L. Ron Hubbard unequivocally claims that the things he says in the book are proven scientific fact. However the book has no references at all. Using your 5 fifteen thousand word encyclopaedias' worth of information and 40 years experience in Scientology, can you direct me to the scientific journals in which the papers in which the claims of Scientology were tested are published, please?

I had a friend that tested the Emeter at grad school. He said it didn't work. He got it wrong. He just didn't know how to use it. All auditors have gotten fantastic results with it. With us it's as real as 2 + 2 = 4. I don't care how many degrees a person has, I'm not going to believe that 2 + 2 = 5. It's that simple and obvious to me. It's so obvious that it's boring to argue. The emeter works - but it isn't a lie detector.

 

[pakeha]

...The Freezone uses a rundown to audit out Miscaviges' Church of Scientology It gets fantastic results. We know EXACTLY what all the problems are.

Could you explain just what those problems are, please?

...Anyway, do I believe that LRH developed methods to deal with his war wounds? It is more than plausible.

According to his record, LRH was never wounded.
How can healing a non-existent wound be plausible?

 

[DuvalHMFIC]

I had a friend that tested the Emeter at grad school. He said it didn't work. He got it wrong. He just didn't know how to use it. All auditors have gotten fantastic results with it. With us it's as real as 2 + 2 = 4. I don't care how many degrees a person has, I'm not going to believe that 2 + 2 = 5. It's that simple and obvious to me. It's so obvious that it's boring to argue. The emeter works - but it isn't a lie detector.

Say what?

 

[dafydd]

I had a friend that tested the Emeter at grad school. He said it didn't work. He got it wrong. He just didn't know how to use it. All auditors have gotten fantastic results with it. With us it's as real as 2 + 2 = 4. I don't care how many degrees a person has, I'm not going to believe that 2 + 2 = 5. It's that simple and obvious to me. It's so obvious that it's boring to argue. The emeter works - but it isn't a lie detector.

Good old confirmation bias! The emeter is effective in one way, at parting people from their money.

 

[xjx388]

The bridge starts out with Life Repair.

Can you give me a rundown (no pun) of what LR is and what the end result would be?

And where in the materials can one find Life Repair? Or do you have to buy it from the Church? I own all the books and some of the lectures. See, I'd like to give the process a fair evaluation, but I can't find where it is.

Most Scientologists never see the one page in the 5 fifteen thousand page encyclopedias worth of information on Scientology that keeps getting mentioned. Satan doesn't get mentioned in the bible much either, but he/she sure gets people's interest..

You have to ask yourself why that is. Why don't most Scientologists ever learn this information. It's not because it will drive them crazy. I've seen the materials and I'm OK. The only logical reason is that most "Scientologists" drop out way before they reach OT either because they realize how ludicrous it all is or it's way too expensive.

 

[The Dark Lord]

I had a friend that tested the Emeter at grad school. He said it didn't work. He got it wrong. He just didn't know how to use it. All auditors have gotten fantastic results with it. With us it's as real as 2 + 2 = 4. I don't care how many degrees a person has, I'm not going to believe that 2 + 2 = 5. It's that simple and obvious to me. It's so obvious that it's boring to argue. The emeter works - but it isn't a lie detector.

So the answer is that there is no scientific studies backing any of the claims in Dianetics? Shocker.

Of course, e-meters are worthless pieces of junk. It is part of the scam. How much does the "church" charge for them? Thousands I am sure. They don't do anything. The only reason you fools think they do is because you want and expect them to. If you could actually prove that they work the way that you claim they do, you could probably win the million dollar challenge. But you don't want a million dollars, right? Is that going to be your excuse?

 

[dafydd]

The only logical reason is that most "Scientologists" drop out way before they reach OT either because they realize how ludicrous it all is or it's way too expensive.

$cientology is all about keeping the cash register well oiled.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I had a friend that tested the Emeter at grad school. He said it didn't work. He got it wrong. He just didn't know how to use it. All auditors have gotten fantastic results with it. With us it's as real as 2 + 2 = 4. I don't care how many degrees a person has, I'm not going to believe that 2 + 2 = 5. It's that simple and obvious to me. It's so obvious that it's boring to argue. The emeter works - but it isn't a lie detector.

That's nice.

Can you direct me to the scientific journals in which the papers which test the claims that L. Ron Hubbard makes in Dianetics were published, please?

 

[Justinian2]

Say what?

Go into the church and get a pinch test.

It's free.