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A Question for Conspiracy Theorists.

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If you believe that conspiracy is truly what is going on, what are you as individuals doing about it in the sense of coming up with a plan of action which will thwart the ultimate goals of these power mongers?

Thank You.
 
Judging by the Conspiracists around here:

Rant about it in the most obnoxious way on the internet to make sure everyone thinks you are seriously out of your mind.
 
How to overthrow the New World Order:

1. Vote Ron Paul
2. ???
3. Profit
 
Navigator said:
If you believe that conspiracy is truly what is going on, what are you as individuals doing about it in the sense of coming up with a plan of action which will thwart the ultimate goals of these power mongers?

Thank You.
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I was just thinking the other thing this night.

I quit the NWO. There! I said it!

For all their secret Bohemian Grove meetings, false flag operations and warmongering over the past years and decennia, the NWO has accomplished exactly zilch.

I want to join a new evil secret government that actually get things done.

kthxbye
 
deeper said:
A blog where you promote your plan of action?
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Nope. Just my take on things. I guess I'm not ambitious. I also said I'm still thinking about it. I don't know any other people into conspiracies, so I don't know of anyone who does have a more real plan of action.
 
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Simon666 said:
Nope. Just my take on things. I guess I'm not ambitious. I also said I'm still thinking about it. I don't know any other people into conspiracies, so I don't know of anyone who does have a more real plan of action.
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Just a piece of advice. If you ever feel the need to produce YouTube conspiracy videos, keep them *under* three minutes long. And try to use a voice that will keep the viewer interested.
 
Simon666 said:
I'm thinking of setting up a blog of some sorts.
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That'll show those dirty rotten Joos Lizardmen Illuminati Foreigners Commies NWO Brown People Shills <insert object of paranoia here>!
 
Stick to the OP

Is there a conspiracy to derail threads hereabouts?

:rolleyes:

Request: Stay on topic people. I realize there is history between the participants ie. wrestling together in other threads but please try to keep to the topic or stay out of it altogether.

Thanks.

Nav
 
Navigator said:
If you believe that conspiracy is truly what is going on, what are you as individuals doing about it in the sense of coming up with a plan of action which will thwart the ultimate goals of these power mongers?

Thank You.
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What conspiracy are we talking about here?

I think powerful people conspire to keep other people hungry and poor. I could certainly find evidence to support this idea (Mugabe's antics come to mind). I believe in this type of conspiracy--I'd go so far as to say on some level it's an incontrovertible fact.

As far as I know, there's really nothing I can do about it. I wish I could fix it but I'm not that powerful. :boxedin:
 
Simon666 said:
I'm thinking of setting up a blog of some sorts.
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Okay Simon666…

How will this help in forming a plan of action which will thwart the ultimate goals of these power mongers?

Perhaps you could tell me in brief why you think there is a conspiracy – what has convinced you of this being true.

For example – have you read The Protocols of The Wise Men Of Zion and from this concluded that there is a conspiracy afoot?

Cheers
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Wuglife said:
What conspiracy are we talking about here
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I am talking about conspiracies like that Iran is allegedly behind the bus bombing in Bulgaria or other things. Conspiracies which people actually believe. You have a white guy suspected of blowing up a bus on the anniversary of Mein Kampf, yet supposedly Iran is behind it as it is on the anniversary of the Argentinian embassy bombings, AGAIN the suspected work of Iran even though Argentina is known to be chock full of (ex) nazis and the date back then wasn't the anniversary of anything BUT Mein Kampf. People here swing around with Occam's razor but have frequently slashed the arteries to their brain with it.
 
Wuglife said:
What conspiracy are we talking about here?

I think powerful people conspire to keep other people hungry and poor. I could certainly find evidence to support this idea (Mugabe's antics come to mind). I believe in this type of conspiracy--I'd go so far as to say on some level it's an incontrovertible fact.

As far as I know, there's really nothing I can do about it. I wish I could fix it but I'm not that powerful. :boxedin:
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Hi Wuglife.

I would suppose ‘what kind of conspiracy’ would have to do with “the ultimate goals of these power mongers”

Obviously any one individual is ‘not that powerful’ and so any plan would have to incorporate getting the multitudes on board.

However, due to the way ‘the multitudes’ are seemingly in perpetual disagreement, the likelihood of this happening is fairly small odds.

However, if enough dedicated individuals were to come up with a plan – one that would be obviously workable and had been through the mill of critical thinking and was – as a matter of necessity – all inclusive…meaning that everyone benefited from the said plan being put into practice, and that it would have the effect of giving people cause to pause from their bickering and see the logics of that plan and the plan itself had the potential to ‘go viral’ and in doing so, force the democratic leadership to re-evaluate their positions because ‘the people have spoken’ and pull the necessary levers to initiate said plan into actuality, then it would not seem so ‘impossible’ and you would not feel so ‘powerless’ and boxed in– would I be correct?

Nav
 
Navigator said:
How will this help in forming a plan of action which will thwart the ultimate goals of these power mongers?
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You know the story of throwing the starfish back into the ocean? If I can put some sense into at least one person, it might be worth it.

Navigator said:
Perhaps you could tell me in brief why you think there is a conspiracy – what has convinced you of this being true.
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See above. If you want more detail of why things are off:

1. Suspect is white, curly redhead, about as likely a muslim suicide bomber as a black transgender republican (Condi Rice excluded).
2. The suspect according to Bulgarian initial reports was carrying a fake Michigan ID and a US passport. On CNN and so on you'll only hear the fake ID but not the passport. For a US passport you need to submit evidence of citizenship. A US driver's license, real or fake, is useless in Bulgaria. It does make sense if the guy was a US citizen instead of white looking Lebanese, plenty of US citizens have fake IDs or used them to get alcohol.
3. Initial reports were speaking of the bomb placed in the UNDERNEATH luggage compartment of the bus. Then the suicide bomber supposedly went to sit IN the bus. Does not make sense. Now they are changing it to that he was standing AT THE DOOR and blew himself up over there. This does not make sense either if you want to kill as many people as possible. You do it ON the bus.
4. On the pictures of the bus, from the scorch marks it looks like the bomb was INDEED UNDERNEATH on the LEFT of the bus.
5. There is allegedly a witness that states the guy tried to rent a car with that fake ID. This does not sound like a prepared terrorist, a US driver's license will NOT work to get a car in Europe, EVEN if it is real.
6. People in the media will tell you they should have noticed the guy was off with a backpack that large. The bomb however killed only seven people, Bulgarian police now say the bomb was 3 kg of TNT. This small amount easily fits in the SMALLER bag the backpacker carried too in the video. A guy with self preservation would have put a small bag in the bus and LEFT. A body leaves traces behind, otherwise they would NEVER have known who it was.
7. Some Bulgarian in charge claims the guy is a former Gitmo inmate. The name of Mehdi Ghezali is speculated upon, but rejected by Swedish secret service and Bulgarians alike. The Bulgarian guy reiterates his statement. The number of pale 25 something old redheads in Gitmo should be countable on the fingers of one hand, if not on no fingers at all. Still no identification.
8. According to initial reports, you'll read the only reason to start suspecting him is that he sat closest to the bomb and was blown to smithereens the most.
9. There are 30+ survivors but no one reports the guy was shouting Allah Akbar or whatever. No final statement. No one has claimed the attack anyway while otherwise muslim groups are lining up to be the first to claim it.
10. All news disappears, still no real identity is found. I guess Netanyahu shouldn't become too embarassed.
 
Simon666 said:
I am talking about conspiracies like that Iran is allegedly behind the bus bombing in Bulgaria or other things. Conspiracies which people actually believe. You have a white guy suspected of blowing up a bus on the anniversary of Mein Kampf, yet supposedly Iran is behind it as it is on the anniversary of the Argentinian embassy bombings, AGAIN the suspected work of Iran even though Argentina is known to be chock full of (ex) nazis and the date back then wasn't the anniversary of anything BUT Mein Kampf. People here swing around with Occam's razor but have frequently slashed the arteries to their brain with it.
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So basically you're a shill for Islamic terrorists. Got it.
 
Simon666 said:
I am talking about conspiracies like that Iran is allegedly behind the bus bombing in Bulgaria or other things. Conspiracies which people actually believe. You have a white guy suspected of blowing up a bus on the anniversary of Mein Kampf, yet supposedly Iran is behind it as it is on the anniversary of the Argentinian embassy bombings, AGAIN the suspected work of Iran even though Argentina is known to be chock full of (ex) nazis and the date back then wasn't the anniversary of anything BUT Mein Kampf. People here swing around with Occam's razor but have frequently slashed the arteries to their brain with it.
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Ah so your angle has to do with the Christian/Western conspiracy against the Islamic/Middle eastern peoples.

I don’t think you can successfully make a plan of action to thwart such a plan because in general the belief systems of said West are from ancient days and people often simply have the need to blame something which they find abhorrent to their own belief systems.

One of the problems with your understanding of that particular incident is that Nazi’s are not known for their love of the Middle East either.

So it is not really about any conspiracy so much as it is about human fear/hatred, which of course is likely a great tool for any power mongers to manipulate to their own ends rather easily, bearing in mind that the same type power mongers are likely also employing similar tactics in Middle Eastern Islamic countries.

Like I say, this has been going on for a long, long time now.
 
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