Continuation: Discussion of the George Zimmerman case

[This is The End]

As I stated before, I used the full resolution images to look for actual damamge to the skin and compared them to W12s photo of Zimmerman at the scene. Some of them may well be dried blood - I'm not an Orthodox Anti-Zimmermanist and thus can accept actual evidence.

As the saying goes, it is what it is. Call it 4 injuries if you like. The arrows are what I identified as probable injury sites.

I would point out, in Cylinder's defense, that Cylinder already admitted as much weeks ago (at least) when this was discussed. I'm also not defending JK bringing it back up again.

It was just ironic that NBS was defending a point that Cylinder had already conceded way back then. That some of the extra errors were probably just dried blood.

 

[Natural Born Skeptic]

The medical reports didn't say Z had blue arrows on his face...

Thanks for lightening this up a little, lol.

 

[Aber]

It was just ironic that NBS was defending a point that Cylinder had already conceded way back then. That some of the extra errors were probably just dried blood.

 

[Moss]

I for one get tired of some people trotting out the old "You are believers! Nothing can convince you!" accusation. It adds absolutely nothing to the discussion and makes it unlikely that the other party will actually listen to your arguments.

 

[Dan O.]

I want to believe. But the narative being preached just doesn't make any sense. We are being asker to believe that George just laid there while his face was pummeled "over thirty times" and he never once put his arms up to deflect a punch.

 

[Moss]

I want to believe. But the narative being preached just doesn't make any sense. We are being asker to believe that George just laid there while his face was pummeled "over thirty times" and he never once put his arms up to deflect a punch.

I think that argument can be made without all the "believer/belief/cult" lingo. And that lingo is inflammatory from any party. Can we please stop with this ********?

 

[Dancing David]

The medical reports didn't say Z had blue arrows on his face...

Wonderful!

 

[Cylinder]

I want to believe. But the narative being preached just doesn't make any sense. We are being asker to believe that George just laid there while his face was pummeled "over thirty times" and he never once put his arms up to deflect a punch.

That's not what Zimmerman claims nor what the closest eyewitness saw.

 

[Dan O.]

That's not what Zimmerman claims nor what the closest eyewitness saw.

When the witness claimed "A or B", you dropped the "or" and asserted that the witness claimed "A". This shows a failure in elemental logic on your part.

 

[WildCat]

No. The multiple injury sites are evidence against a one punch/one fall narrative being promoted here.

I keep asking the Trayvon Truthers here just how many times Zimmerman fell and hit his head from that single punch... apparently he is very clumsy!

 

[Dan O.]

I think that argument can be made without all the "believer/belief/cult" lingo.

It has been and it was ignored.


When this thread started, I reached out to what i thought were moderate posters on both sides of the issue offering to create an information repository as I had done for the Knox case. But nobody seemed interested in finding the truth. They all want to push their version of the truth despite the facts that get in the way.

 

[WildCat]

It has been and it was ignored.


When this thread started, I reached out to what i thought were moderate posters on both sides of the issue offering to create an information repository as I had done for the Knox case. But nobody seemed interested in finding the truth. They all want to push their version of the truth despite the facts that get in the way.

Speaking of facts Dan, how many times do you reckon that Zimmerman fell and hit his head from that single punch by Martin that accounts for all those injuries?

 

[Dan O.]

Speaking of facts Dan, how many times do you reckon that Zimmerman fell and hit his head from that single punch by Martin that accounts for all those injuries?

Are you equating blue arrows with injuries still? Why don't you make a list of all the actual injuries on George along with what would cause similar injurys. Then we will be able to move forward and discuss scnarieos that are consistent with those injuries.

 

[johnny karate]

As the saying goes, it is what it is. Call it 4 injuries if you like. The arrows are what I identified as probable injury sites.

Truly laughable.

No one is "calling it" four injuries.

Four injuries are what the medical reports document.

Your blue arrows aren't "probable injury sites".

They're just blue arrows.

You have absolutely no justification to claim otherwise.

Period.

 

[johnny karate]

Speaking of facts Dan, how many times do you reckon that Zimmerman fell and hit his head from that single punch by Martin that accounts for all those injuries?

"All those injuries" are in total a broken nose, a forehead abrasion, and two small cuts on the back of the head.

Which of those do you imagine necessitate falling more than once?

 

[KatieG]

I keep asking the Trayvon Truthers here just how many times Zimmerman fell and hit his head from that single punch... apparently he is very clumsy!

Your continued use of the phrase "Trayvon Truthers" indicates to me you have no interest in the truth at all.

 

[WildCat]

Are you equating blue arrows with injuries still? Why don't you make a list of all the actual injuries on George along with what would cause similar injurys. Then we will be able to move forward and discuss scnarieos that are consistent with those injuries.

Just tell me how many times you think Zimmerman fell and hit his head from that single punch, to account for not only the injuries but the marks seen in the photos.

 

[WildCat]

"All those injuries" are in total a broken nose, a forehead abrasion, and two small cuts on the back of the head.

Which of those do you imagine necessitate falling more than once?

lol

Did he fall down a flight of stairs or something?

 

[WildCat]

Your continued use of the phrase "Trayvon Truthers" indicates to me you have no interest in the truth at all.

There's the truth, and there's the Truth^TM.

The latter requires thinking like a conspiracy theorist.

 

[Dan O.]

Just tell me how many times you think Zimmerman fell and hit his head from that single punch, to account for not only the injuries but the marks seen in the photos.

Not counting the time he fell into the barrel of blue arrows, it appears that he fell over backwards once accounting for the two wounds on the back of his head that were noted in the medical report. The abrasion on the side of his head could have been caused if George had rolled to his side to try and get up when trayvon jumped on him to restrain him until help arrived.