You know, folks... while the whole question of CM's experience is illuminating as far as his character goes, it's ultimately unimporant. His claims are demonstrably wrong on their own merits, nevermind the experience he employs or claims to employ in the construction of them. Even if it turns out he has relevant military experience, and even if it turns out nothing is a lie or exaggerated, he's still wrong. The evidence demonstrates this. No one doubts Jesse Ventura's experience, for example, but it doesn't change the fact that he advocates for demonstrably incorrect claims.
This statement is not meant to shut down the discussion, though. It's merely to remind us all of the proper perspective. By all means, feel free to continue it.
). Make the claim, and only slowly turn to other claims. All the while ignoring the refutations for the base or initial one.
Well, quite obviously he's dodging it now. But that's an element of the slower Gish Gallop (The Gish Canter? The Gish Trot?
No matter how it's characterized, it's still avoidance. I'd guess it's a defense against the onset of cognitive dissonance, but I honestly don't know; it could be that many conspiracy peddlers' cognition is so broken that they could hold deliberately refuted beliefs as true without their minds exploding. Who knows?
You know, folks... while the whole question of CM's experience is illuminating as far as his character goes, it's ultimately unimporant. His claims are demonstrably wrong on their own merits, nevermind the experience he employs or claims to employ in the construction of them. Even if it turns out he has relevant military experience, and even if it turns out nothing is a lie or exaggerated, he's still wrong. The evidence demonstrates this. No one doubts Jesse Ventura's experience, for example, but it doesn't change the fact that he advocates for demonstrably incorrect claims.
This statement is not meant to shut down the discussion, though. It's merely to remind us all of the proper perspective. By all means, feel free to continue it.
Yes, it's not his experience/lack of which matters one way or the other. It's his use of a blatantly ludicrous "argument from authority" to support his patently false claim.TSR said:You know, folks... while the whole question of CM's experience is illuminating as far as his character goes, it's ultimately unimporant. His claims are demonstrably wrong on their own merits, nevermind the experience he employs or claims to employ in the construction of them. Even if it turns out he has relevant military experience, and even if it turns out nothing is a lie or exaggerated, he's still wrong. The evidence demonstrates this. No one doubts Jesse Ventura's experience, for example, but it doesn't change the fact that he advocates for demonstrably incorrect claims.
This statement is not meant to shut down the discussion, though. It's merely to remind us all of the proper perspective. By all means, feel free to continue it.
But since there is little to no chance of actually getting cm to admit that he was wrong, it's simply amuzing to rub his nose in some of his other more ludicrous statements made when he didn't even realize he'd be called on in it.
In rather the same way that others rub their dog's noses into messes they make when they are caught at it -- with the major difference that a dog eventually learns that such messes are not acceptable.
He did the same thing in his "Virus CT" topic.
