dafydd
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No access but we should know who to hang cause of documents that you can't access, according to CE. HUH?
Truther logic. Go figure.
CIA threatens "Press for Truth" producers over release of new documentary
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Truther logic. Go figure.
Childlike Empress
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Still amazing.
No access but we should know who to hang cause of documents that you can't access, according to CE. HUH?
BTW CE, you realize by saying they were just executing orders they weren't consciously aware that their actions (or lack thereof) would result in the murders of 3000 Americans. That takes them off my electric chair list.
I ask again. Who decided to help murder the people I knew? Following orders isn't making that decision.
Stop playing stupid, justin. The documents we have no access to are the ones showing where the orders came from ("X information" in my previous post). The documents showing how the investigations of pre-9/11 intelligence were intentionally hindered are accessible to all of us ("Y information" in my previous post). Either man up and research what is available or don't expect to get any response other than ridicule from me.
Childlike Empress
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I notice nobody from the denial crowd commented on the Tenet "testimonies".
Childlike Empress
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You're not part of the denial crowd. You're part of the cover-up crowd.
Justin39640
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So you're saying that "we'll never know and there's no point looking cause you'll never find out. At best we have Tenet for Perjury".
Where the orders came from is what I want to know. Other than that, you got a lot of people covering their collective asses for dropping the ball. People got off light for dropping that ball and I think that's where the real crime is. Setting out to murder all those people is just a fantasy that distracts from real issues.
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dafydd
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And who are you approaching with this demand?
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Nostalgia? Have the truthers started holding reunions in a telephone booth?
jimd3100
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I have considered your request and have rejected it due to the following...
You have failed to provide evidence that:
A)this is a court of law
and
B) failed to provide evidence that I am an informant
and
C)failed to provide legal definition for the term "oh-so-sexy and governmental".
Once these oversights are corrected I MIGHT re-consider and play the part of your Dancing Monkey but I doubt it.
Or in other words...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ&feature=related
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" I watched those 10 years ago."
Then you must be clairvoyant. This video was made 8 years ago on April 14, 2004, so if you saw this 10 years ago, then you are clearly clairvoyant!.
"MY POINT"
Tenet was the Director of the CIA.
He says he knows in August 2001 that a huge al Qaeda terrorist attack is coming to the US. He even admits this at this 9/11 Commission hearing!
Then he says that he had not talked to the President in all of August 2001. Now this makes a while lot of sense doesn’t it?
Maybe some really smart poster on this forum can come up with a semi-rational explanation for this complete nonsense and stupid answer.
But we now know Tenet had lied to the 9/11 Commission and to the American people.
Tenet’s lies were so aggress that the CIA spokesperson Bill Harlow said after his testimony that Tenet had out and out lied to the 9/11 Commission and the American people when he said he had not talked to the President in August 2001. Harlow said Tenet had talked to the President on August 17, 2001 when he flew down to Crawford Texas, for a meeting with the President and had talked to the President in Washington DC at the end of August.
Tenet’s lies were so aggress that even Tim Roemer sat there in silence completely flummoxed by Tenet's ridiculous, unbelievable and completely stupid answers.
But we now also know that CIA Director Tenet had talked to the President on August 24, 2001 because the White House actually put out a press release that said President Bush had a six hour long meeting with the President on August 24, 2001.
And we now know that Tenet knew on August 22-23, 2001 that both al Qaeda terrorists Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi were inside of the US, and that these al Qaeda terrorists were going to take part in this attack. He was given this information that Mihdhar and Hazmi were going to take part in this terrorist attack on July 23, 2001 by Tom Wilshire in his email that is now available.
HELLO, HELLO, HELLO can you connect the dots now? These are very few dots.
So why hide this horrific information from the American public. Why tell 9/11 Commissioner Tim Roemer that he had not talked to the President in August 2001?
Because Tenet did not want Roemer to ask him what had he told the President of the US in this six hour long meeting he had with President Bush on August 24, 2001, at Crawford.
And what horrific secret was Tenet trying to hide from Roemer, the 9/11 Commission and the American public? When he said that he had not talked to the President of the US about this huge al Qaeda attack, Roemer could not ask him any more questions about what he might have told the President. Even Roemer did not believe Tenet’s lies and it looks like he also complete snookered not only the American people but even many of the posters on this forum.
HELLO, HELLO, HELLO are we getting through yet? IS ANYONE HOME?
It is totally inconceivable that Tenet did not give President Bush this information. Then why fly down to Crawford Texas on August 24, 2001, for this six hour long meeting and then hide this meeting from the American public and the 9/11 Commission if there was nothing to hide?
Don’t you think at the very least it might have been just a tiny bit embarrassing to the President of the United States, George Bush, for the American people to know that he had been told on August 24, 2001, three weeks prior to the attacks on 9/11 that had killed almost 3000 people, that a huge al Qaeda attack was just about to take place inside of the US, and that two of the al Qaeda terrorists Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi were actually found to be inside of the US in order to take part in this horrific attack.
HELLO, HELLO, HELLO, IS ANY ONE HOME?
" I watched those 10 years ago."
Then you must be clairvoyant. This video was made 8 years ago on April 14, 2004, so if you saw this 10 years ago, then you are clearly clairvoyant!.
"MY POINT"
Tenet was the Director of the CIA.
He says he knows in August 2001 that a huge al Qaeda terrorist attack is coming to the US. He even admits this at this 9/11 Commission hearing!
Then he says that he had not talked to the President in all of August 2001. Now this makes a while lot of sense doesn’t it?
Maybe some really smart poster on this forum can come up with a semi-rational explanation for this complete nonsense and stupid answer.
But we now know Tenet had lied to the 9/11 Commission and to the American people.
Tenet’s lies were so aggress that the CIA spokesperson Bill Harlow said after his testimony that Tenet had out and out lied to the 9/11 Commission and the American people when he said he had not talked to the President in August 2001. Harlow said Tenet had talked to the President on August 17, 2001 when he flew down to Crawford Texas, for a meeting with the President and had talked to the President in Washington DC at the end of August.
Tenet’s lies were so aggress that even Tim Roemer sat there in silence completely flummoxed by Tenet's ridiculous, unbelievable and completely stupid answers.
But we now also know that CIA Director Tenet had talked to the President on August 24, 2001 because the White House actually put out a press release that said President Bush had a six hour long meeting with the President on August 24, 2001.
And we now know that Tenet knew on August 22-23, 2001 that both al Qaeda terrorists Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi were inside of the US, and that these al Qaeda terrorists were going to take part in this attack. He was given this information that Mihdhar and Hazmi were going to take part in this terrorist attack on July 23, 2001 by Tom Wilshire in his email that is now available.
HELLO, HELLO, HELLO can you connect the dots now? These are very few dots.
So why hide this horrific information from the American public. Why tell 9/11 Commissioner Tim Roemer that he had not talked to the President in August 2001?
Because Tenet did not want Roemer to ask him what had he told the President of the US in this six hour long meeting he had with President Bush on August 24, 2001, at Crawford.
And what horrific secret was Tenet trying to hide from Roemer, the 9/11 Commission and the American public? When he said that he had not talked to the President of the US about this huge al Qaeda attack, Roemer could not ask him any more questions about what he might have told the President. Even Roemer did not believe Tenet’s lies and it looks like he also complete snookered not only the American people but even many of the posters on this forum.
HELLO, HELLO, HELLO are we getting through yet? IS ANYONE HOME?
It is totally inconceivable that Tenet did not give President Bush this information. Then why fly down to Crawford Texas on August 24, 2001, for this six hour long meeting and then hide this meeting from the American public and the 9/11 Commission if there was nothing to hide?
Don’t you think at the very least it might have been just a tiny bit embarrassing to the President of the United States, George Bush, for the American people to know that he had been told on August 24, 2001, three weeks prior to the attacks on 9/11 that had killed almost 3000 people, that a huge al Qaeda attack was just about to take place inside of the US, and that two of the al Qaeda terrorists Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi were actually found to be inside of the US in order to take part in this horrific attack.
HELLO, HELLO, HELLO, IS ANY ONE HOME?
Wow. How is this. "I watched those when they were first available." Given that I posted for years in this forum, i trust you would grant that I pay attention to the subject.
And if your point can't be expressed in less that 15 paragraphs, I cannot help you. Best of luck.
Eta - goodbye goodbye goodbye
And if your point can't be expressed in less that 15 paragraphs, I cannot help you. Best of luck.
Eta - goodbye goodbye goodbye
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So you should probably provide them for us to evaluate, right?
Notice you changed your claim from "knew a huge terrorist attack scheduled to take place in August to kill thousands" to "huge al Qaeda attack was just about to take place inside of the US."
Well for one thing it's evidence the CIA did warn the President there was a possible attack in the making. Nothing about "huge" or "in August" or "killing thousands."
So no one has ever misspoke on the stand before? Since it's all already public record, what's your point - that they are terrible at keeping a secret?
Please provide evidence for your very detailed description of what the flight instructors told the FBI.
You have no idea what you are talking about. But please, continue to expand upon your "expert" legal analysis.
So Tenent never actually said he "knew" a "huge" terrorist attack was going to happen in "August" that would kill "thousands" of Americans?
Funny don't you think?
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What evidence do you have that distinguishes the testimony from being incompetence instead of cover-up?
As I suspected, you have no ability to formulate charges, and no intention of lodging any.
Stop throwing **** at the wall and you might stop feeling like a monkey.
That leaves Shure and paloalto to make a case.
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Or, apparently "in the US".
This seems to be one of the principle contentions between the various camps: Rice claims that she thought any attack would have been overseas.
This is just like the Peal Harbor warnings. "Something Big is going to happen soon, someplace" is pretty damn useless.
They did publish an official account, the CIA IG report, but this account has been kept super secret. Why keep this account secret if there is really nothing to hide, like allowing the al Qaeda terrorists to murder almost 3000 people in the US?
If there is really nothing to hide, then why not release this report to the American public so all can see what had taken place at the CIA prior to the attacks on 9/11?
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It can't be a super secret if you know about it.
Nick Terry
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Yeah, the account is so super secret they released the executive summary five years ago.
It's therefore vanishingly unlikely there is anything spectacularly different in the full report, for the simple reason that an executive summary is meant to, er, summarise the contents of a report. Bureaucrats being bureaucrats, it would be far too much effort to write a phony summary and then tell a completely different story in the main report.
The main report undoubtedly has a lot more detail on "sources and methods" which have to be kept secret to avoid tipping off the opposition. Past precedents suggest that we might see the full report in a few decades, as has happened with declassified CIA reports from Vietnam.
Frankly when most European countries still have a 30 year rule about the release of completely ordinary government papers, it's a bit childish to expect the CIA to release absolutely everything straight away. Sooner or later it'll come out, and it'll be just like all the other declassifications, such as the final tranche of material from the Kennedy assassination that emerged in the 90s. Of some interest to historians. Maybe.
jimd3100
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Yea, thanks for pointing that out Sherlock. Because it's one of those "sexy Governmental" documents that prove Tenet committed perjury.
"I know that nobody read that cable"
Thanks for pointing that out, I would never have guessed. Maybe you should read it sometime. It also suggested setting up an Accountability Board for the "misstakes" made but the CIA decided not to do that.
Yea, don't want to reveal those sources and methods. Saudi Agents were involved in the 9/11 attacks and is being covered up, but you still haven't figured that out yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gCNXKpihAGM
Thanks for the advice. You've convinced me that the internet needs to be more monitered, because it is simply outrageous that from the little declassified releases so far it is already shown that Saudi Agents were assisting the hijackers and either Saudi Intelligence shared their info (which would make them a source or method) or they didn't. I certainly do not need to know such things. Not when I'm supposed to think Iraq MIGHT be involved. Just because the Executive Branch covered up the 28 pages of the joint Inquiry that go into Tenets Perjury question and the Saudi Agents doesn't prove there is a cover up. How could there be if I know about it?! Right? Long Live the Queen!