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How do you think should I answer your questions except to repeat some of my answers before?
You could try actually thinking about the questions, and why the answers you've given umpteen times are not considered satisfactory, and address some of the many ways in which they are inadequate. All simply repeating those same unsatisfactory replies is going to do is irritate people.

I can help in analyzing the prophecies of the Holy Spirit. For example, what had happened before when London was to host the Olympic Games, it was cancelled because of World War II. Now, London will host again the Olympic Games. Will it be held?
What happened last time London was due to host the Olympics has no bearing on what is going to happen this time. This is just one of the many logical errors you are making. Imagining such impossible connections is a frequent symptom of a particular kind of craziness.

I was actually surprised when the Holy Spirit mentioned that the world war that will start in the Philippines will happen on a Wednesday and that the 2012 Olympic Games in London will not be held as planned.
The woman you believe (for no good reason I can see) is channeling the Holy Spirit did not mention either of those things. You did.
 
In for a dime, in for a dollar.

He's answered that question, Mojo. All he'll admit is that Lady Gaga - or whoever she is - was not channeling the One True GodTM. That's like digging a hole in your back yard and thus thinking that you've created a serious challenge to the Grand Canyon.
 
Yes, I moved the goal posts...

52 plus Joker

PC, it looks like you do not realise that "moving the goalposts" is considered to be a very unethical thing to do. It does not mean: "I changed my mind," or "I found new reasons to say something different."

It is a metaphor for trying to change the rules after something legitimate has happened that made you lose a game or discussion.
You said: "WW III will start on one of these four Wednesdays." Period.
When that did not happen, your prediction was proven to be false.

Femke
 
The Two Towers

<snip> We will wait and see.
You keep using this phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means. You can "wait and see" by all means, but you are wasting your life chasing a false belief in a "medium" (something forbidden by your holy book). Whatever act Ka Apaz is putting on, it's not any holy spirit talking to you (singular or plural, it's immaterial). The Olympic Games will go ahead as planned and WWIII will not start in the next few days, if at all.

I hope you will reconsider your belief and see the light when the prophecies happen. The Holy Spirit said in 1986, pray fervently and wholeheartedly for the return [to God] of our fellowmen.
But later, you say that those who believe in God will be killed, so it's better for survival not to believe. Hmm, what a puzzle.

Two-thirds of mankind will die and only one-third will remain. Not all this two-thirds will die in the nuclear holocaust.
Once again, I really don't think you understand the destructive power and the long term effects of a nuclear war such as you are prophesying. If there was a global nuclear bombardment, using the majority of the world's stockpiled weapons, a great deal more than two thirds of the population would die, both in the initial blasts and then in the days and weeks following from radiation, burns, and waterborne disease.

There would be no distinction between the conquerors and the conquered; the vast majority of the world's landmass would be reduced to uninhabitable rubble. Your utopian vision of empty towns where the survivors could just move into empty houses, and where there would still be all the advantages of civilisation such as government, education, electricity, gas, clean water, shops and zoos and so on is just laughably naive. Look at the pictures of Hiroshima or Nagasaki immediately after the atomic bombs and multiply that across the whole world, then be aware that today's weapons are many times more powerful than the relatively small and inefficient bombs dropped on those two cities.

The very few survivors won't be moving into empty, untouched towns with all amenities, they'll be dying a slow painful death from radiation sickness, burns, and then infectious disease spread by lack of clean water and sanitation. There won't be a conquering army spreading atheism through the world; this is just your apocalyptic fantasy. It won't matter who began the aggression, the entire world would be equally affected.

The survivors will still be interrogated by the conquerors. If they are old and disabled, they die.
Oh dear, that's me due to die then, being stuck in a wheelchair.

If they say that they believe in God, they die.
But wait, I don't believe in any god, so I'll be spared. Which is it to be - spared for being a lifelong atheist, or executed because I can't walk?

Instead of waiting fearfully to see what happens on Wednesday with your doors and windows taped up, wasting your life worrying about something which will not happen, why not come out into the real world and start living?

It is desperately sad to think of someone huddled behind duct tape and draught excluders, promoting and expecting the end of the world, waiting and hoping for the extinction of civilisation.

We are, as individuals, here for such a relatively short time; we should concentrate on making the most of what we have and making a positive difference to the world.
 
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Peacecrusader, several times it's been pointed out to you that your 'Holy Spirit's' prediction of trouble starting in the Phillippines was interpreted by you to be WWIII and 'He' never mentioned the words 'Wednesday' or 'Olympics' at all; only you did that.

Yet you claim to be "actually surprised when the Holy Spirit mentioned that the world war that will start in the Philippines will happen on a Wednesday and that the 2012 Olympic Games in London will not be held as planned".

Are you surprised at our incredulity?


Also you have never addressed the question of why you choose to waste what you think are the final days of human civilisation talking to a small group of strangers on the internet who don't believe you. Why is that?
 
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You keep using this phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means. You can "wait and see" by all means, but you are wasting your life chasing a false belief in a "medium" (something forbidden by your holy book). Whatever act Ka Apaz is putting on, it's not any holy spirit talking to you (singular or plural, it's immaterial). The Olympic Games will go ahead as planned and WWIII will not start in the next few days, if at all.

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@Agatha, #2126

We will wait and see what happens on Wednesday, 2012-07-25. I am removing my own interpretation of the prophecies of the Holy Spirit. It is up to you to make your own decision. If you think that the 2012 Olympic Games in London will be held as planned, that is up to you. If you hang on believing that there is no God, that is your decision.

What if the prophesied World War III happens this Wednesday? What do you think will the athletes in London do? Remember that the prophecy is specific. WWIII will start from the Philippines, and not from the Middle East or elsewhere, and on a Wednesday before the 2012 Olympic Games.

You keep saying that Ka Apaz is a “medium” putting on an act and talking as if she is the Holy Spirit. You have to experience what I experienced. I doubted for eleven years (1983-1994) that the spirit is the spirit of Jesus Christ. Please read http://aristean.org/wp113.htm titled “From doubt to belief”.

Ka Apaz, I believe, is one of the two women referred to in the Holy Bible. Matthew 24:41 states, “Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.” This is similar to Luke 17:35. The one taken up to Heaven by Jesus is the Blessed Virgin Mary when she died, I think, aged 72. The other left is Ka Apaz who first assumed the physical body of an Egyptian princess named Reneliniyindi. When Reneliniyindi died, the spirit transferred to another physical body, and so on. Now, that spirit is in the physical body of Ka Apaz.
 
You only have a few days left of believing that Ka Apaz is channeling the spirit of Jesus Christ. Enjoy it while you can.
 
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@blue sock monkey, #2092

Did you know that I have observed that when the Holy Spirit definitely agrees with the asker, He says “Yes” or “That is right” or similar. When He partially agrees or maybe disagrees, then He says something that sounds like “Ummmph”. I am not sure.

Did you know that I have observed that this is a common trick used by phony psychics to deceive gullible clients into believing that the medium has made a prediction--when in fact it is the clients themselves who have made that prediction?

I am not impressed by a Holy SpookTM whose key pronouncements are punctuated by ambiguous "Ummmphs." From your own transcripts and descriptions, it is clear that your elderly lady communicates poorly. If your god truly wanted to warn humanity to change its ways to avoid horrible death, why would he/she not make a clear prediction, giving an exact date? Why not tell us precisely what we are to do to avoid being wiped out? And why not make the prediction sufficiently in advance so that humanity has time to clean up its act?

It is true that I do not have any prophetic power. I do not claim that. But I can help in analyzing the prophecies of the Holy Spirit. For example, what had happened before when London was to host the Olympic Games, it was cancelled because of World War II. Now, London will host again the Olympic Games. Will it be held?

Thus far on this thread, your analyses and guesses have been wrong. You should take up a new hobby.


It is just a few days away. We will wait and see.

You have made 200+ posts in this thread saying essentially this same thing over and over again. I hope that I am wrong for suspecting that you repeat this nonsense in order to avoid answering the questions we (plural) have asked. Because such a duplicitous tactic does not inspire confidence in you, your old lady, or your Holy SpookTM.


Instead of waiting fearfully to see what happens on Wednesday with your doors and windows taped up, wasting your life worrying about something which will not happen, why not come out into the real world and start living?

It is desperately sad to think of someone huddled behind duct tape and draught excluders, promoting and expecting the end of the world, waiting and hoping for the extinction of civilisation.

We are, as individuals, here for such a relatively short time; we should concentrate on making the most of what we have and making a positive difference to the world.

Well said!
 
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Peacecrusader, several times it's been pointed out to you that your 'Holy Spirit's' prediction of trouble starting in the Phillippines was interpreted by you to be WWIII and 'He' never mentioned the words 'Wednesday' or 'Olympics' at all; only you did that.

Yet you claim to be "actually surprised when the Holy Spirit mentioned that the world war that will start in the Philippines will happen on a Wednesday and that the 2012 Olympic Games in London will not be held as planned".

Are you surprised at our incredulity?


Also you have never addressed the question of why you choose to waste what you think are the final days of human civilisation talking to a small group of strangers on the internet who don't believe you. Why is that?


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@Jack by the hedge, #2127

I was actually surprised when the Holy Spirit said that it will be Wednesday when the world war will happen (said on first session last 2012-05, not taped, lasted only for a few minutes, unexpected, unprepared) and that the 2012 Olympic Games will not be held (said on second session, taped, lasted for almost one hour). I know from His previous prophecies that the world war will start from the trouble in the Philippines (http://aristean.org/pahayag018.htm) said on 1986-06-13 and that it will happen in the middle of the year (said sometime in the 1990s). That is why I went to the Philippines two months ago primarily to know if and when this world war will happen.

When the Holy Spirit said that the war will happen on a Wednesday, that reduced my speculation from 31 days to just four days. The middle of the year is July 1, day 183, for leap years like this year, and between July 1 and July 2, for common or ordinary years (182.5 days). Why four? Because I had been thinking that the middle of the year is under the zodiac sign of Cancer from 06-21 to 07-21 inclusive. Then there is the stop point – that the 2012 Olympic Games will not be held. So the world war will start on a Wednesday in the Philippines this year before the 2012 Olympic Games. The Wednesday left is 07-25, this coming Wednesday.

Now, why did I post this at the JREF forum which is composed mainly of atheists and sceptics? You know that I was posting before at the Philippine atheists forum. And FYI, I was also posting in the iSpeak religious forum, and other fora. They are somewhat mute of the subject.

I do not exactly remember why I chose JREF forum but I had experienced before being in this forum when I talked about the one million dollar challenge five years ago. This forum is composed of intellectuals who may be vocal in its belief. I cannot expect religious people to stand before at the JREF forum. I have to do it. I am also following what the Holy Spirit said to save the unbelievers, to change and come back to God, the only true God. The Holy Spirit said that there will be those who will believe and there are those who will continue with their unbelief. I guess, it is like that you cannot please everyone (pleasing everybody).
 
I am also following what the Holy Spirit said to save the unbelievers, to change and come back to God, the only true God. The Holy Spirit said that there will be those who will believe and there are those who will continue with their unbelief.
Another disproved prophecy.
 
The Holy Spirit said that there will be those who will believe and there are those who will continue with their unbelief. I guess, it is like that you cannot please everyone (pleasing everybody).

"You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time."
Abraham Lincoln allegedly said that

PT Barnum allegedly said
'You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time'

which in this case is probably more appropriate
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Le tour du monde en quatre-vingts jours

. I am also following what the Holy Spirit said to save the unbelievers, to change and come back to God, the only true God.
You are making the assumption that those who do not believe in God have turned away from God - that they used to believe and so could "come back". Like many people in the UK, I have been an atheist all my life, I've never believed in any gods. It's insulting of you to assume I could (or want to) come back to God, when I have never believed in your God or any other.

If the prophesied war starts on Wednesday I expect the athletes will fly home, since London is likely to be a target in any global war. But just because I can imagine what might happen in your apocalyptic fantasy, it doesn't mean I give it any credence whatsoever. It's not going to happen.

The war won't start, the Olympics will be held as planned, and you will have to come to terms with having followed a false god. The transcripts you have posted reveal that you fed the answers to Ka Apaz and she merely agreed, can you not see that?
 
3 O'clock In The Morning

So the world war will start on a Wednesday in the Philippines this year before the 2012 Olympic Games. The Wednesday left is 07-25, this coming Wednesday.

Ain't gonna happen.

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China will not invade the Phillipinnes, but a Chinese attack on the Phllipines will be fakes by a crazed media morgul who thinks that starting a major war will be good for the ratings of his cable news network.............

Was this the premise behind a James Bond movie, or the start of the Spanish American war? I get that confused at times.
 
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Hmmm what will I do if WW3 happens on wednesday?
Lets see, I live in the capital of a western european nation, a nuke from china will get here in, what? 8 minutes? Take off 4 minutes for the warning to actually be registered as noone will believe china would do anything that suicidal.

I'd probably spent them with my wife, cursing a god that would do such a horrible thing and pledging my soul to its opposition (kinda the opposite of what you'd hope to achieve, but hey, can't win em all).
Then I'd be vaporized.
Which, in a nuclear war is the GOOD option.

Of course what I'll actually be doing on wednesday is going trough the day as always, and looking forward to the opening ceremony.

And not squandering my life listening to some old fraud in the hope someone else will solve all my problems for me, and definately not secretly gloating in the hope all the world will burn.

As for what you'll be doing, I suspect you will actually concede that *this* particular prophecy was nonsense, but since you are so invested you will soon find some twist to justify how she may have been completely wrong, but secretly she's right anyway. Sad, but..
 
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I do not exactly remember why I chose JREF forum but I had experienced before being in this forum when I talked about the one million dollar challenge five years ago. This forum is composed of intellectuals who may be vocal in its belief. I cannot expect religious people to stand before at the JREF forum. I have to do it. I am also following what the Holy Spirit said to save the unbelievers, to change and come back to God, the only true God. The Holy Spirit said that there will be those who will believe and there are those who will continue with their unbelief. I guess, it is like that you cannot please everyone (pleasing everybody).

Wednesday is two days away.
The Games are going ahead.
Your 'holy spirit' is wrong, doesn't exist outside your head and is going to get mocked from here to your departure which isn't far off now..
Door, backside
 
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