Moderated Will the 2012 Olympic Games in London be held?

[Explorer]

20120719.1045

The predicted war did not happen on 07-04. Same with 07-11. So, there is one left – 07-18. I said that it must happen on this last and fourth Wednesday of Cancer. This 07-18 is about to end in mainland US and still no nuclear war. So all the Cancer dates are or will be gone. Then we eliminate them.

But there is still one Wednesday left before the Opening of the 2012 Olympic Games – 07-25. This maybe it. What is happening now at the South China Sea maybe that military flashpoint. Please Google for news that is happening there. We will wait and see. I do not find anything to “move the goalpost” anymore.

So it seems that you muddled up your own logic/theories with the responses of your Holy Spirit. The responses simply mentioned a Wednesday in the middle of the year for the fateful day. You tried to grapple with this vagueness and pin it down to one of three very specific dates. Your interpretation was incorrect, and now you are expecting your readers here to believe that another Wednesday, not in the middle of the year could be the one.

It is insulting to all on this board for you to think anyone is going to believe that, anymore than your previous failed logic for which you have had to apologise.

The only non-vague prediction by your Holy Spirit is the cancelling of the Olympic Games. That is a very specific claim, not open to your or anyone else's, interpretation.

The weather is now set fair in London for the start of the games. The terrible wet weather our nation has experienced for the last two months is being pushed north by the Jet Stream, that has, until now, been unmovable.

The gods are smiling on the Olympics it seems.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

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I've reworked your prophecy to me asking a bhudda channeler about proving christianity a fake. If you read this, would you say its a real prophecy of bhudda or someone making stuff up as they go along?



Me: You said eight weeks before christiantyis proven a fake. Is that correct?
Bhudda: Ummmph.
Me: That is a very short time before such a religion is prove fake, maybe each week like a year, is like ...
Bhudda: That is correct.
Me: There it is.
Bhudda channeler: But it will be really soon.
Me: But this one, Buddah said, eight weeks.

 

[rickps]

Am I not allowed to express my views of what the Holy Spirit said?

Nobody is stopping you expressing anything.

Most likely, I said, of the four dates, the world war would happen on 07-04 because that is the Independence Day of the US. It is a public holiday and people would not be at work. This would be the best time to sneak attack the US. It is like during the 1973 Arab-Israel War when the Arabs attacked Israel on Yom Kippur which was a holy day and a public holiday. Someone added the Tet Offensive in 1968 during the Vietnam War. Logical, isn’t it?

I'm afraid not. There's nothing remotely logical about this.

So all the Cancer dates are or will be gone. Then we eliminate them.

Okay.

But there is still one Wednesday left before the Opening of the 2012 Olympic Games – 07-25.

Which, I'm pretty sure, you initially said would definitely not be the date.

We will wait and see. I do not find anything to “move the goalpost” anymore.

Remember this when next Wednesday comes and goes without World War III rearing its head.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

MFH 149
http://maxhunter.missouristate.edu/songinformation.aspx?ID=1541


This sounds quite, quite perfect, PC.
Do you have any location in particular thought for this?

20120719.1640

@pakeha, #1954

Location of this? It can be anywhere where the land is relatively flat (for easy cycling) and not prone to flooding. Only for 20,000 inhabitants.

I actually thought of ten places or regions in the Philippines with one million inhabitants and about 300 sq km each. Aside from what I said earlier, these cities have a university, a central business district, regional or central government area, a hospital of world-class standard, zoo, botanic garden, amusement park, sporting venues, convention center, museums, industrial areas, light rail transit, etc.

 

[rickps]

Nowadays, when the Holy Spirit answers, they are short because Ka Apaz is already old and does not talk much.

If, as you previously claimed, the "holy spirit" replaces the old lady's "spirit" then what has the old lady's age and decreasing desire to talk have to do with anything?

Sounds like the old lady is getting sick of her game.

 

[svenax]

Drei Chinesen mit dem Kontrabass

Here is its translation to English:
Aristeo: Because, I thought, sometime in the middle of this year, the war will happen.
Ama: Yes.
Aristeo: Then, that will be World War III. There will be nuclear exchange, then that will be World War III. The London Olympic Games scheduled on July 27 will not be held.
Ama: That will not be held. It will not be held.
Aristeo: The Olympic Games in London?
Ama: Yes.
Aristeo: Because, there seems to be a sign. The sign is that in 1944, it was also scheduled in London to hold the Olympic Games. There was a war going on then. World War II. It was postponed. Now, it is scheduled again in London, 2012. It seems that that will not happen because of World War III this time.
Ama: It will not be held.
Aristeo: It will not be held. You said last May 1st, Wednesday. Then I looked up at the calendar which Wednesday. I noticed that July 4 is Wednesday.
Ama: It [the war] will happen.
Aristeo: What is that?
Ama: It [the war] will happen.
Aristeo: It will happen? That will be Wednesday.
Ama: Yes.

If all conversations with "the holy spirit" looks like this, then I'd not put too much blame on this Ka Apaz. You yourself is putting words in her mouth and she is just asserting your own ideas. Just like any "psychic" or "medium" always does.

Anyhow, we will not have nuclear holocaust next Wednesday either. But I got to say that this has been one pretty entertaining thread. So thanks for that, PC. And good luck finding a better way of talking to the spirits. Maybe you should try it yourself?

 

[PeaceCrusader]

K 627



Sounds lovely, PC!


What drew my attention was this

Does this mean there is some paperwork involved?

20120719.1715

@pakeha, #1798

You don’t have to buy the property. You just lease it. The lease, for example, is five 50-kilo-cavans of Jasmine Rice per year. So that the property will not be subdivided among the children, it can be bequeathed to only one child.

It is as if you own the land. You live on the land guaranteed for fifty years, renewable. You just have to pay the yearly lease amount to the cooperative or the government which may be equal to your real estate tax. The only time that the government may take back the property from you during the renewal date is when a new improvement is to be made, like roads, schools, parks. But since the community is planned, there may not be any improvement anymore. The lessor just renews it.

 

[Stomatopoda]

Aristeo: Because, I thought, sometime in the middle of this year, the war will happen.
Magic 8-Ball: Without a doubt.
Aristeo: Then, that will be World War III. There will be nuclear exchange, then that will be World War III. The London Olympic Games scheduled on July 27 will not be held.
Magic 8-Ball: Concentrate and ask again.
Aristeo: The Olympic Games in London?
Magic 8-Ball: Yes.
Aristeo: Because, there seems to be a sign. The sign is that in 1944, it was also scheduled in London to hold the Olympic Games. There was a war going on then. World War II. It was postponed. Now, it is scheduled again in London, 2012. It seems that that will not happen because of World War III this time.
Magic 8-Ball: It is decidedly so.
Aristeo: It will not be held. You said last May 1st, Wednesday. Then I looked up at the calendar which Wednesday. I noticed that July 4 is Wednesday.
Magic 8-Ball: Yes – definitely.
Aristeo: What is that?
Magic 8-Ball: Reply hazy, try again.
Aristeo: It will happen? That will be Wednesday.
Magic 8-Ball: It is certain.

Spot the difference?

 

[Mojo]

It removed my picking up the Wednesday in the middle of the year under the zodiac sign of Cancer, which you may say is a Pagan thing (astrology).

Four seasons

Do you say it is a pagan thing?

 

[PeaceCrusader]

If, as you previously claimed, the "holy spirit" replaces the old lady's "spirit" then what has the old lady's age and decreasing desire to talk have to do with anything?

Sounds like the old lady is getting sick of her game.

20120719.1735

@rickps, #1965

Did you know that Ka Apaz is still poor? The late Marcial Aguila wrote that if only she charges during the healing sessions, she could have amassed a fortune. But the Holy Spirit did not like her to charge anything. It is the Holy Spirit who heals and not Ka Apaz.

What you said is correct. The Holy Spirit replaces the spirit of Ka Apaz (http://aristean.org/wp086.htm titled “How the Holy Spirit talks to people”) when He appropriates her physical body. The body of Ka Apaz is already weak because of her age and dementia. So the body cannot talk like before even though the Holy Spirit is very lucid.

 

[Stomatopoda]

Did you know that statements phrased as questions are annoying to read?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

That transcript is really rather sad. PeaceCrusader dictates the whole narrative of the 'prophecy' and the 'Holy Spirit' doesn't say much more than 'uhh... sure, whatever'.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

... do we have a betting pool yet on what the "out" will be when the Olympic games are held and everything is fine?

I think my pick is going to be that there WAS going to a nuclear war and cancelled Olympics, but due to the tireless and heroic efforts of the Warriors of God praying around the world against it, God has shown us His mercy and war is averted!

Ah, yes. An excellent choice sir/madam. That would be option (1); the very height of fashion this year.

Ladies and gentlemen, place your bets.

1) We prayed really hard and God Changed His mind. You're welcome. odds 2/1
2) It did happen, but on a spiritual basis, so you unbelievers didn't notice. odds even money
3) I made a minor error in my numerology, so it'l really happen on 6 months. For sure this time, no takebacks. odds 3/1
4) God in his infinite mercy has postponed the apocalypse. odds 2/1
5) Oh, that Olympic games? No, no, the Holy Spirit meant the next Olympics. Definitely. odds 2/1 on.
6) Your skeptical lack of faith allowed satan to disrupt the Holy Spirit's true message, which was that the Olympics will go ahead but the opening ceremony will be a bit ****. odds 2/1
7) I have got it all wrong, god does not exist. odds 100000000/1

 

[Jack by the hedge]

You don’t have to buy the property. You just lease it.

In this post-holocaust vision, from what authority do I lease property, and what if I decide I haven't enough spare food and decline to pay?

 

[SezMe]

The body of Ka Apaz is already weak because of her age and dementia.

8-ball in the corner pocket.

Whoa, I think that is the first time that you've mentioned that problem. You and Romney have much in common.

Let's imagine for a moment that you are Teh Holy Spirit and you want to communicate to all of humanity the dire future that lies ahead. Would you pick as your intermediary an old, demented, weak crone? No.

And, btw, as others have mentioned, she is not so demented that she is unable to pull a standard, straightforward cold reading on you. Makes one wonder who the demented one is.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

And, btw, as others have mentioned, she is not so demented that she is unable to pull a standard, straightforward cold reading on you. Makes one wonder who the demented one is.

I don't think she's as sharp as that. Have you read through those interview transcripts PC just posted? It looks to me like his medium is barely coherent. She didn't recite any prophecy at all. He just made the whole story up, fed it to her and she just mumbled vague acquiescence.

 

[Lamuella]

several weeks ago I said:

That works for me. Do you promise to come back here after your prediction fails and admit you were wrong?

So on July 19th, if war has not started, will you come back and admit you were incorrect?

And PeaceCrusader said

20120626.2350

@Lamuella, #686

I will sure do. If what I impart to you would not happen, I will recant what I said and apologize to all of you and will stop what I do on the Internet. I will search for the only true God.

PeaceCrusader, you have gone back on your word. You are a man without honour.

 

[Marcus]

Am I not allowed to express my views of what the Holy Spirit said?

Once the Olympics start, at the very least you will need to admit to yourself that it wasn't the Holy Spirit.

 

[Explorer]

That transcript is really rather sad. PeaceCrusader dictates the whole narrative of the 'prophecy' and the 'Holy Spirit' doesn't say much more than 'uhh... sure, whatever'.

Sad? You just made me laugh out loud!

 

[PeaceCrusader]

So it seems that you muddled up your own logic/theories with the responses of your Holy Spirit. The responses simply mentioned a Wednesday in the middle of the year for the fateful day. You tried to grapple with this vagueness and pin it down to one of three very specific dates. Your interpretation was incorrect, and now you are expecting your readers here to believe that another Wednesday, not in the middle of the year could be the one.

It is insulting to all on this board for you to think anyone is going to believe that, anymore than your previous failed logic for which you have had to apologise.

The only non-vague prediction by your Holy Spirit is the cancelling of the Olympic Games. That is a very specific claim, not open to your or anyone else's, interpretation.

The weather is now set fair in London for the start of the games. The terrible wet weather our nation has experienced for the last two months is being pushed north by the Jet Stream, that has, until now, been unmovable.

The gods are smiling on the Olympics it seems.

20120719.2025

@Explorer, #1961

The Wednesdays under the sign of Cancer this year have all been gone. I thought that the war would happen in one of them. But no nuclear holocaust happened. I sincerely apologize to all of you for my wrong interpretation. It was a human interpretation. I think we have to believe more what the Holy Spirit says per se.

The Holy Spirit is very specific and definite – that the 2012 Olympic Games will not be held. There is still one Wednesday which is before the Opening Ceremony of the 2012 Olympic Games – 07-25. Could this be the one? It is up to you. I don’t want to give my view anymore.

The only help I can give is that the date 07-25 qualifies as still in the middle of the year. The months in the middle of the year are June and July, and 07-25 is in July. If you disagree with this, say so. But please, do not take my word for it may be wrong. Rely on your own interpretation or what the Holy Spirit says.

In the 1990s, the Holy Spirit said that the war will happen in the middle of the year starting at the trouble in the Philippines (http://aristean.org/pahayag018.htm titled “Ang kaguluhan sa Pilipinas”). He used to mention Spratly Islands occasionally.