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Continuation: Discussion of the George Zimmerman case

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Bob001 said:
This is a colossally stupid idea. Anything GZ says that conflicts with anything he has already said or will say in the future can be used against him. Some of Sandusky's radio interview with Bob Costas was played for the jury at his trial. And he'll look even worse if MOM keeps interrupting him: "Did you follow TM?" "Don't answer that!" "Did you try to stop him from running away?" "Don't answer that!" "Did you lie to the judge about how much money you had?" "Don't answer that!" "Were you planning to leave the country?" "Don't answer that!" "Have you ever molested a child?" "Don't answer that!" This raises real questions about MOM's judgment.
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I'd really like to know what MOM's goal is with these interviews. Fund raising for GZ's legal account maybe? Lots of Faux news viewers out there.
 
Bob001 said:
This is a colossally stupid idea. Anything GZ says that conflicts with anything he has already said or will say in the future can be used against him. Some of Sandusky's radio interview with Bob Costas was played for the jury at his trial. And he'll look even worse if MOM keeps interrupting him: "Did you follow TM?" "Don't answer that!" "Did you try to stop him from running away?" "Don't answer that!" "Did you lie to the judge about how much money you had?" "Don't answer that!" "Were you planning to leave the country?" "Don't answer that!" "Have you ever molested a child?" "Don't answer that!" This raises real questions about MOM's judgment.
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He's falling on his sword so Zimmerman will be able to appeal on the basis of inadequate legal counsel :D

That's assuming O'Mara knows about it. GZ doesn't have a history of telling his lawyers when he's talking to Hannity

The way I read it is Hannity will interview O'Mara about the finance issue.

He will also and separately and totally independently interview George about what happened that night.
 
Unabogie said:
Well to be fair, they gave Hannity all the questions ahead of time and edited out everything that could hurt him. I wonder if the outtakes will be subpoenaed?
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So it's not even an interview? It's a scripted commercial for GZ? I'm surprised that even Fox would go along with that, if for no other reason than some conflict makes for better TV.
 
Bob001 said:
So it's not even an interview? It's a scripted commercial for GZ? I'm surprised that even Fox would go along with that, if for no other reason than some conflict makes for better TV.
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Yes, it is scripted. If you look closely, you'll see it isn't even Zimmerman. The script was written by Peggy Noonan, and George Clooney is playing Hannity, George Lopez is Zimmerman, and Pee-Wee Herman is O'Mara.
 
Bob001 said:
So it's not even an interview? It's a scripted commercial for GZ? I'm surprised that even Fox would go along with that, if for no other reason than some conflict makes for better TV.
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Just being snarky.

GWCarver said:
Yes, it is scripted. If you look closely, you'll see it isn't even Zimmerman. The script was written by Peggy Noonan, and George Clooney is playing Hannity, George Lopez is Zimmerman, and Pee-Wee Herman is O'Mara.
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See above.

TheL8Elvis said:
How many of those jailhouse calls were Frank and George just chatting it up ?
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Did you listen to all of them and identify who they were talking to?

The dude spent hundreds of hours on the phone.
 
Unabogie said:
Did you listen to all of them and identify who they were talking to?
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Nope, I let the Internet do that for me. And the Internet tells me none of the calls were with Frank, nor was he the subject of them.

Unabogie said:
The dude spent hundreds of hours on the phone.
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And none of them with Frank. An objective person might almost consider that evidence :)

BTW, I saw some tweet about Frank Taaffe having done 99 interviews or tv appearances so far. If that doesn't prove he is friends with GZ, I don't know what does.
 
I just got a list of question from the show from a source deep inside Fox News.

"How does it feel to be a hero?"
"What kind of tips can you give for young gun owners out there?"
"Is Barack Obama a bad president, or the worst president?"
"What's your favorite color?"
"Did you say Obama was bad, or the worst?"
"You're not a racist, are you?"
"How hard has this been on you?"
"Are you sure Obama isn't the worst, ever?"

I can't post a link though. It's top secret.
 
Unabogie said:
So you have no source for that assertion. Thanks.
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How would you prefer I prove a negative ?

I don't think any of the calls are with President Obama, either. But I bet you believe that assertion, don't you ?

BTW, GZ is a registered democrat, so maybe the answers about the president would go differently than you seem to expect.
 
TheL8Elvis said:
How would you prefer I prove a negative ?

I don't think any of the calls are with President Obama, either. But I bet you believe that assertion, don't you ?

BTW, GZ is a registered democrat, so maybe the answers about the president would go differently than you seem to expect.
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You made a positive claim. You said "NONE of the calls were with Frank". Since the people on the other end of the calls are unknown, you can't know this. Reporters can't know this. Google can't know this. So you don't know this.

I don't know who he talked to. So I can't say who he didn't talk to, and I wouldn't make a definitive statement. Except for Obama. I know he did NOT call Obama.
 
Unabogie said:
You made a positive claim. You said "NONE of the calls were with Frank". Since the people on the other end of the calls are unknown, you can't know this. Reporters can't know this. Google can't know this. So you don't know this.

I don't know who he talked to. So I can't say who he didn't talk to, and I wouldn't make a definitive statement. Except for Obama. I know he did NOT call Obama.
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Is this where I say "You made a positive claim. You said "I know he did NOT call Obama". Since the people on the other end of the calls are unknown, you can't know this. Reporters can't know this. Google can't know this. So you don't know this.

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We know when he was talking to MOM, his wife, his brother. It is no way impossible or even difficult to figure out who some of the phone calls were with.

And you didn't answer my question. How do you want me to prove who he didn't speak with, be it FT or the president ?
 
TheL8Elvis said:
Is this where I say "You made a positive claim. You said "I know he did NOT call Obama". Since the people on the other end of the calls are unknown, you can't know this. Reporters can't know this. Google can't know this. So you don't know this.

:confused:

We know when he was talking to MOM, his wife, his brother. It is no way impossible or even difficult to figure out who some of the phone calls were with.

And you didn't answer my question. How do you want me to prove who he didn't speak with, be it FT or the president ?
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Who is "Scott"?
 
TheL8Elvis said:
How many of those jailhouse calls were Frank and George just chatting it up ?
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Well, you already established a month ago that you don't believe that Frank and Z are friends.

Let us assume that none of the jailhouse calls are to Frank.

Perhaps they did that on purpose because they have something to hide?

Perhaps Frank does not like phones or has no phone?

Not that I believe that.

I am just showing that there are reasons why Frank would not be in the jailhouse calls and yet they could still be friends.

Frank not being in the jailhouse calls does not show that they are not friends.
 
TheL8Elvis said:
Google is your friend. :)

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/17/2898502/jail-call-says-defense-attorney.html

In a phone call recorded April 14 between Zimmerman and brother-in-law Scott Wilson, the two discuss the new defense lawyer and the attorney’s vision for an upcoming bond hearing.

http://trayvon.axiomamnesia.com/aud...-jailhouse-calls-1-10-released-7162012-audio/

Here are the first 40 calls that aren't Frank Taaffe ;)
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Glad I have at least one.

But that's one call out of hundreds. Can you cite a single source that says that all of the callers are identified?
 
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