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Broadway Melody of 1974


If a huge nuclear attack happens here, I'll probably be dead anyway, but if I survive there sure won't be any electricity or internet for me to use to inform you whether the shock has unhinged my mind so severely that I have become a believer.

I suspect I won't, even though it would be a massive coincidence.

What is bound to happen though is that there will be no nuclear conflagration, just like every other failed prediction by every previous true believer.

When it is demonstrated next week that your medium is just a crazy old lady after all, I hope you can take comfort in the thought that, however embarrassing that may be, it would have been an awful lot worse to have been right.
 
<snip> When it is demonstrated next week that your medium is just a crazy old lady after all, I hope you can take comfort in the thought that, however embarrassing that may be, it would have been an awful lot worse to have been right.


Yes! We Have No Bananas

This has really been bothering me, and I hadn't figured out how to phrase it. There is something inherently perverse in all this doomslinging as an act of faith. PeaceCrusader, are you going to be disappointed when we are not all vaporized? Because that means your prophecies are lies and you have been following a false god.
 
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I will never run away from you. The Holy Spirit told us to be true to our word and oath. So if they do not happen, I will apologize to all of you and do other things as I have said before.
I believe you PC. I am counting on you to stick around not just for one post but for a week after the Olympics start.

Ka Apaz's big mistake was assuming that 2012 was so far in the future that it didn't matter.Perhaps it doesn't matter to her, she can retire after this.
 
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@George152, #1612

Yes, we are just three or four days from today when the calamitous nuclear World War III will commence. Three days if 07-18, Wednesday, is the Wednesday referred to that in China and the Philippines, or four days if 07-18 that in the US.

I will never run away from you. The Holy Spirit told us to be true to our word and oath. So if they do not happen, I will apologize to all of you and do other things as I have said before. If the prophecies happen, what will you do? Will you believe in the only true God that I believe in?

Will you run away before the day, during that day or a little later having invented some inane excuse as to why the Olympics are in progress?

And no nuclear war !
 
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@OnlyTellsTruths, #1617

Yes, I will not forget my promise. How about you? What is your promise? Will you believe in the only true God that I believe in if the prophecies happen?

Sure. If the prophecies do not happen you will admit that yours is a false god just like you said in the quote below and in the quote above where you say: "Yes, I will not forget my promise." If they do happen, on the other hand, I will believe that yours is the one true god.

Is it fair enough to say that the main difference between the only true God and the false gods is prophecy? The only true God can prophesy whereas the false gods cannot.
 
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@OnlyTellsTruths, #1617

Yes, I will not forget my promise. How about you? What is your promise? Will you believe in the only true God that I believe in if the prophecies happen?

one flew over the cuckoo's nest.

If your prophecy comes true I'll probably be dead and dead men tell no tales.
 
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I have next to no doubt that PC will get through the ordeal of the nopocalypse with hardly a beat missed. It will turn out that the Holy Spirit™ made a miscalculation of the date due to the Gregorian Calendar being wrong or the occultation of Jupiter by the Moon or <insert nonsense> and the predictions for the real date of the cataclysm will start almost immediately the Olympic torch is lit.

Seventh day Adventists

There's always the tried and true dodge "It happened but it was a spiritual event".
 
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How about you? What is your promise? Will you believe in the only true God that I believe in if the prophecies happen?

If the prophesies happen, PC, I will believe that possibly there exists an entity with foreknowledge of the future. This will require further information, as the prophesy could be due to other things. To name just two:

  • Natural, non-divine being(s) with ability to see the future;
  • Self-fulfilling prophesy in the form of a war deliberately orchestrated by mortal believers.

I refuse to worship a god so pathetically weak that it would make no effort whatsoever to prevent a nuclear war or even to properly notify people who would be able to prevent it. In fact, if I do find Myself in its presence shortly thereafter, I will attempt the divine equivalent of a Citizen's Arrest.
 
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@pakeha, #1614

What I have been telling you about the Holy Spirit is not a myth. My experience is real which I would like to share. I am already old. I am passing on what I heard and learned and know to younger generations.

We need another promise from you PC.

When the prophecies fail, it is of the utmost importance that you convey the message to the younger generation that you have mentioned. You must tell them that you have been fooled and have been a very gullible and naive person to believe all the lies from the very start.

Will you promise to pass this on to the very vulnerable and impressionable young persons and teach them to think with their brains, use their common sense, and rely on proven evidence before easily believing extraordinary claims and prophecies?
 
We need another promise from you PC.

When the prophecies fail, it is of the utmost importance that you convey the message to the younger generation that you have mentioned. You must tell them that you have been fooled and have been a very gullible and naive person to believe all the lies from the very start.

Will you promise to pass this on to the very vulnerable and impressionable young persons and teach them to think with their brains, use their common sense, and rely on proven evidence before easily believing extraordinary claims and prophecies?


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@Explorer, #1630

Yes, if the prophecies fail, I promise to tell the younger generations to scrutinize very well the spirit that is talking. Do not believe at once. Even the Devil, an evil spirit, can say good things. Pick out the good ones and discard what they think is evil. The good ones can logically be proven to be true. Do not accept everything hook, line, and sinker. Do not belong to one particular religious group. Be selective of what the different religions believe in. Don’t be fooled, gullible and naive. Think. Use commonsense. Regarding prophecies, rely on those spirits who are from God and never from a human being.

How about you, Explorer? Will you believe in the Holy Spirit who I believe in if the prophecies of a nuclear world war on 07-18 and the cancellation of the 2012 Olympic Games happen?
 
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@Explorer, #1630

Yes, if the prophecies fail, I promise to tell the younger generations to scrutinize very well the spirit that is talking. Do not believe at once. Even the Devil, an evil spirit, can say good things. Pick out the good ones and discard what they think is evil. The good ones can logically be proven to be true.


The 13 Clocks

What is your logical proof that the prophecy about the Olympics being prevented by nuclear war is true?

Incidentally, since you are now saying that even the Devil can make good prophecies, then even if the prophecy comes true it will not be proof that your Holy Spirit is a true god. It could just as easily be the Devil.
 
BWV 1028

Thanks for sharing your experience with us, PC.
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What I have been telling you about the Holy Spirit is not a myth. ...
Why do I believe Him? Because my experience is true. We (plural) talk to a spirit, a holy spirit, who I believe is THE Holy Spirit. We cannot see Him or touch Him, but can hear Him and talk to Him, tape recorded. What He says agree with the Holy Bible. Actually, He asked us to read it and He explains to us what the verses mean. What I do is transcribe what is recorded on tape and upload this on the Internet.

I did a quick Google search of prophecy and the Philippines.
I'm posting up the results as a Sunday morning exercise:
http://www.christiansermoncentral.com/2010/10/philippines-in-bible-prophecy/
It is interesting to know for all the Filipinos that the Philippine country is prophetically mentioned in the Bible. The Bible foretold that somewhere in the East will give glory to the Lord in the islands of the sea.

In the book of Isaiah 24:15 reads “Therefore in the east give glory to the LORD; exalt the name of the LORD, the God of Israel, in the islands of the sea” (NIV).

Granted, for many, the sea IS the Pacific, but I somehow doubt that was the case for the writer of Isaiah.

http://sogmi.org/blog/prophetic-school/
In 2006, we started the prophetic school in the Philippines and have since taught hundreds of pastors and ministers there. We are now about to start the prophetic school for the youth in that country.

The gift of prophecy is one of the most abused gifts of the Holy Spirit, but it is very important, especially in these last days. For those of us that God directed to teach, we discovered the importance of holy living and discipline to be God’s mouthpiece. Two bible schools in the Philippines expressed a desire to teach a prophetic school and asked to use our curriculum in their colleges. We see this as an open door for us to be able to prepare and educate those who desire to operate in the gifts of prophecy and/or to disciple those that are called in the prophetic office.

It seems there are several groups 'channeling' prophecies in the Philippines!
http://jilworldwide.org/resources/archives/163
The Philippines for Jesus (PJM) held a prophetic conference last March 6-7, 2009 at the San Juan Arena in San Juan City where I was privileged to share the platform with Prophetess Cindy Jacobs. Moments before I went up the stage, the Holy Spirit impressed in my heart to count the number of years from the time the Portuguese explorer, Ferdinand Magellan, “discovered” the Philippines on March 16, 1521 to date. Immediately, a revelation exploded in my spirit. In two years time, it will be 490 years and we will complete the prophetic completion of seven sets of seventy years! As I was climbing up the stairs to the stage to address the more than 6,000 people in attendance, my knees were trembling of the sudden unveiling truth!

Here's more from Cindy Jacobs:
http://www.ourchurch.com/member/p/pacific/index.php?p=1_6_Prophetic-Words-to-the-Philippines
I just see literally THOUSANDS OF MISSIONARIES going out of Mindanao, thousands, thousands. I mean to Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Bangladesh, even to India, Central Asia -- Kyrgystan, Kazakhstan. The Lord says, 'I'm a just God,' those places where darkness has tried to grip, where it seems there's been so much desolation, so much poverty, so much sorrow. The Lord says, "I, the Lion of Judah, am going to rise in those darkest places, and bring justice, and the people who were set in darkness will see a great light. But not only see a great light, but be LIGHT-BEARERS to the ends of the earth," says the Lord.

And from the same site, Dr. Jonathan David's prophecies for the Philippines:
So arise and shine for Me for you shall be My light bearers, through letting My spirit guide and direct you. There shall be a renewal of minds and mind sets. I shall release a fresh fire of My Holy Spirit, bringing forth newness of life a new desire to be vessels and conduits of My Glory. Things of the world and natural mindsets will fall off, as your hunger and press into Me!!!!!

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PC, I has no idea there was so much prophetic activity in the Philippines.
Are any of these other groups saying the same as your own particular channeler?

Not exactly, but there is this from http://socyberty.com/issues/2012-is-it-our-last-year-on-earth/:
World War III to start at Spratly Islands
What is also certain to happen very soon (in about 2012 or earlier) is World War III and this is a nuclear war. This “calamitous war” (as Nostradamus called it) will start from the Philippines, at Spratly Islands in particular. The Spratly Islands lie on the southeast part of the South China Sea mostly near the coast of the Philippines. The Holy Spirit told us that the Philippines is the wick of a gas lamp. Once the wick is lit, it will be on and aglow. He told us about this prophecy about two decades ago. He said that the troubles in the Philippines will spread to the whole world until mankind is almost annihilated and a few will remain. Spratly Islands are being claimed wholly by China, Taiwan and Vietnam; and partly by Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines. The area is considered a tinderbox, a flash point. It is very rich in oil and gas resources, estimated to be more than the reserve of Kuwait. The high price of oil may trigger the grabbing of these islands and start the war.

Certainty of WW III
Four independent prophecies point to the certainty that this will happen. These areNostradamus’ prophecies to happen around this time (quatrains 6:24 and 2:62) , the 56th Chinese prophecy of Tui Bei Tu (the past 55 prophecies have already been fulfilled) found at http://www.alexchiu.com/philosophy/super… and Wikipedia, Revelation 9:18 of the Holy Bible, and those that the Holy Spirit revealed to us. If you are interested in the details about these prophecies, please send me your request via email.

Spiritual awakening after the war
After the calamitous war, we will have a new age, a spiritual awakening or enlightenment, and peace will reign for a long time in this world. The population would have been reduced by a third and there will be much arable land that will be available. People will be living in planned cities and communities. Would you like to live in a city where the land is free and you are guaranteed possession of the land for 50 years, renewable, and which you can bequeath to an heir?

Right.
I think it's clear where this is going.
 
If the prophesies happen, PC, I will believe that possibly there exists an entity with foreknowledge of the future. This will require further information, as the prophesy could be due to other things. To name just two:

  • Natural, non-divine being(s) with ability to see the future;
  • Self-fulfilling prophesy in the form of a war deliberately orchestrated by mortal believers.

I refuse to worship a god so pathetically weak that it would make no effort whatsoever to prevent a nuclear war or even to properly notify people who would be able to prevent it. In fact, if I do find Myself in its presence shortly thereafter, I will attempt the divine equivalent of a Citizen's Arrest.


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@Astreja, #1629

The difference between the only true God and the false gods is prophecy. The only true God can prophecy. He knows the past, the present and the future. The false gods cannot prophecy. The Holy Spirit knows this nuclear world war will happen, back in 1986-06-13 originating from the trouble in the Philippines. That was more than twenty-five years ago. Then in the 1990s, He said that it will happen in the middle of the year. I selected the sign of Cancer which encompasses the middle of year because of the evil that is spreading and destroying society is like the disease cancer, including the waning regard for the kingdom of God.

Then two months ago, on 2012-05, I mainly went to the Philippines to ask when this war was to happen. I stayed near Ka Apaz’s place and was at her place almost every day. During my first week there, we were able to talk to the Holy Spirit twice. After those, He did not return anymore until I left on the 28th.

The Holy Spirit said on a Wednesday AND that the 2012 Olympic Games will not be held. This last revelation narrowed down my selection of when the prophecy will happen. Now, it is reduced from 31 days to four days to just one day, 2012-07-18. Will it be the Wednesday in China or the Wednesday in the US? I do not know. In just the next few days, we will know the answer.

The Holy Spirit said that God has already given everything to man including free will. Man can do what he wants to do now. It is his choice to do evil or to do good. However, God’s time will be later, on Judgment day, when He will settle accounts.
 
BWV 1028

Thanks for sharing your experience with us, PC.


I did a quick Google search of prophecy and the Philippines.
I'm posting up the results as a Sunday morning exercise:
http://www.christiansermoncentral.com/2010/10/philippines-in-bible-prophecy/


Granted, for many, the sea IS the Pacific, but I somehow doubt that was the case for the writer of Isaiah.

http://sogmi.org/blog/prophetic-school/


It seems there are several groups 'channeling' prophecies in the Philippines!
http://jilworldwide.org/resources/archives/163


Here's more from Cindy Jacobs:
http://www.ourchurch.com/member/p/pacific/index.php?p=1_6_Prophetic-Words-to-the-Philippines


And from the same site, Dr. Jonathan David's prophecies for the Philippines:


Also available on Facebook.

PC, I has no idea there was so much prophetic activity in the Philippines.
Are any of these other groups saying the same as your own particular channeler?

Not exactly, but there is this from http://socyberty.com/issues/2012-is-it-our-last-year-on-earth/:


Right.
I think it's clear where this is going.



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@pakeha, #1633

Did you know that I am the author of the article that is in socyberty? I submitted that in Yahoo Answers a few years ago.
 
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@pakeha, #1633

Did you know that I am the author of the article that is in socyberty? I submitted that in Yahoo Answers a few years ago.
No, I did not.
A real estate agent with an interesting publicity schtick.
Do you accept payment by WU?
 
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No, I did not.
A real estate agent with an interesting publicity schtick.
Do you accept payment by WU?


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@pakeha, #1637

I did not know that what I placed in Yahoo Answers is in socyberty. It may also be in other sites. I don’t know.

Who or what is WU? I do not accept any payment. They just get my permission.
 
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@Explorer, #1630

Yes, if the prophecies fail, I promise to tell the younger generations to scrutinize very well the spirit that is talking.

First, I'd advise those hearing voices to have their head examined. Chances are they suffer from some sort of mental illness.

Do not believe at once. Even the Devil, an evil spirit, can say good things. Pick out the good ones and discard what they think is evil.



The good ones can logically be proven to be true.

What's that supposed to mean? If it can be logically proven (before the fact) then it's not a prophecy.

Do not accept everything hook, line, and sinker. Do not belong to one particular religious group. Be selective of what the different religions believe in. Don’t be fooled, gullible and naive. Think. Use commonsense.

If they'd do that, they would be atheists.

Regarding prophecies, rely on those spirits who are from God and never from a human being.

That's quite ironic, seeing as you're listening to a crazy old bat claiming to channel some spirit. :rolleyes:
 
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