Merged Apollo "hoax" discussion / Lick observatory laser saga

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Robrob said:
Out of idle curiosity, I checked your link. In it you actually claim:



You do understand simple inertia and fabric tension would make a jacket hem (or similar object) flex and straighten, regardless of gravity?
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You are going to be sorry.

This guy makes wild claims all the time and you are at risk of getting sucked in. Stop now while you can.
 
Robrob said:
You do understand simple inertia and fabric tension would make a jacket hem (or similar object) flex and straighten, regardless of gravity?
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No, I don't think he understands that. Of course, a knowledge of physics is not common in Apollo deniers.
 
Hey, David/rocky/FatFreddy88/cosmored...

Here is your wall of links, reposted for you at no charge, which I also reposted by reference on BAUT and on Apollohoax. (See my post 8312 here for details.)

Now, how about post 8374? Please read the entire post carefully, and think about it before answering - this time, without any canned answers.

In particular, as I am aware of all the references you have posted so many times here - and that I have gone to the trouble of repeating for you on other boards and here in this very post - I would greatly appreciate an original answer consisting of your thoughts without any links to your canned earlier responses.

Are you able to do that? Can you set aside your fear and reflexive denial long enough to really think about it?


By the way, you've said you're in Madrid, so I guess you're not far at all from Fresnedillas, are you?
 
For the love of whomever believes whatever, Mythbusters did an ENTIRE episode related to moon landing conspiracies, They tackled the flag flutter issue, the jumping issue and the moon reflection issue using I forget what, but if two men with 15 years of special effects experience each can't drive the nail into this group of theories' coffins, then who the hell will?
 
skepteen314 said:
For the love of whomever believes whatever, Mythbusters did an ENTIRE episode related to moon landing conspiracies, They tackled the flag flutter issue, the jumping issue and the moon reflection issue using I forget what, but if two men with 15 years of special effects experience each can't drive the nail into this group of theories' coffins, then who the hell will?
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The nail was hammered in long before the Myth Busters ever did that episode (that was still a fun episode to watch), from what I gather. Willful ignorance will never die, sadly.
 
For the love of whomever believes whatever, Mythbusters did an ENTIRE episode related to moon landing conspiracies, They tackled the flag flutter issue, the jumping issue and the moon reflection issue using I forget what, but if two men with 15 years of special effects experience each can't drive the nail into this group of theories' coffins, then who the hell will?
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The people who did those MythBuster episodes knew the moon missions were faked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ajIVmGiQE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00

Those episodes are examples of sophistry.

They did find one error made by hoax-believers though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAcXBT-GZCo

Hoax-believers have made a few errors but their finding this error doesn't make the other proof go away.
 
FatFreddy88 said:
The people who did those MythBuster episodes knew the moon missions were faked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ajIVmGiQE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00

Those episodes are examples of sophistry.

They did find one error made by hoax-believers though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAcXBT-GZCo

Hoax-believers have made a few errors but their finding this error doesn't make the other proof go away.
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Which is longer FF, the list of people who know the landings were fake or the list of those who don't?

If you are to be believed in all your claims it would seem that 90% of the world knows it was fake.
 
jaydeehess said:
Which is longer FF, the list of people who know the landings were fake or the list of those who don't?

If you are to be believed in all your claims it would seem that 90% of the world knows it was fake.
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In his world EVERYBODY knows it was faked. That's what extreme paranoia does to a person.
 
FatFreddy88 said:
The people who did those MythBuster episodes knew the moon missions were faked.
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The missions are fake.
The moon is fake.
We are fake.

You're just a brain in a jar.

You keep receiving these messages so you don't get lonely.

So, hi, and how's the imaginary weather we're making you imagine you see?
 
jaydeehess said:
Which is longer FF, the list of people who know the landings were fake or the list of those who don't?

If you are to be believed in all your claims it would seem that 90% of the world knows it was fake.
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He's explicitly stated before that he believes people like JayUtah, who are actually in a position to know the truth of the Apollo missions, really do "know" that they were faked and are deliberately lying. It's the moon hoax taken to the extreme; anyone who denies the "twoof" actually does secretly believe in it, they're just deliberately lying to keep up the front.
 
Out of idle curiosity, I checked your link. In it you actually claim:



You do understand simple inertia and fabric tension would make a jacket hem (or similar object) flex and straighten, regardless of gravity?
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Here's the issue he's referring to.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8033032&postcount=1

If the fabric were stiff enough to cause that kind of tension, the simple upward movement would not cause it to bend. If the explanation for the downward movement were fabric tension, there would be some movements that were not consistent with gravity. All of the movements of the corner of Collins' jacket are one hundred percent consistent with gravity. That can only happen in gravity.
 
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