Miracle of the Shroud / Blood on the shroud

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Remember that Jabba has his own webpage dedicated to shroud authenticity. Until that is down, I think he is legitimate fodder.
 
Dinwar said:
My intent was to prove his incompetence to any passer-by.
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Wasn't that proven 30 pages ago? With the exception of the color-fading issue, everything in the last ten pages appeared in the ten pages before that and in the ten pages before that.

You posts are not necessary to prove Jabba's incompetence. Jabba has already proved his incompetence, his inability to be intellectually honest, and his blinding biases. The silliness of his position was proven 30 pages ago.

What is the point of continuing this thread?


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Akhenaten said:
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Much easier​
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You know, I have a T-shirt that says "Cat Herder." C14 testing has dated it to 2011 CE, but I believe a preponderance of evidence suggests that it is actually from 2010 CE.
 
Aepervius said:
But you see, I don't do it for Jabba. i do it for the lurker which is "on the line" , doubting, verving, and maybe falling on the skeptical side.
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But has the lurker been helped in any way by the last 30 pages of the thread?




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Ladewig said:
But has the lurker been helped in any way by the last 30 pages of the thread?
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Do you know that they haven't been helped? Remember, "helping the lurker" is a side-issue--unless we've actually HARMED a lurker it doesn't matter to some of us whether we've helped them or not, in terms of whether we'll continue the conversation or not.

Besides, in the last two pages peoplehave posted the math for calculating contamination in radiometric samples--something that's certainly worth knowing for anyone interested in artifacts. So I'd say yeah, they probably have.
 
pgwenthold said:
Remember that Jabba has his own webpage dedicated to shroud authenticity. Until that is down, I think he is legitimate fodder.
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Every single JREFer and lurker can see Jabba is fodder. Jabba can not (and will never) see that he is fodder. What is the point of continuing to taunt him?




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Ladewig said:
Every single JREFer and lurker can see Jabba is fodder. Jabba can not (and will never) see that he is fodder. What is the point of continuing to taunt him?
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Because people who read his website and do not come here do not know that he is fodder.

As I said, as long as that website is there, he should continue to be fodder.
 
Dinwar said:
Besides, in the last two pages peoplehave posted the math for calculating contamination in radiometric samples--something that's certainly worth knowing for anyone interested in artifacts. So I'd say yeah, they probably have.
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Shoot, I JUST SAID IT ABOVE in response to Ladewig's comment that I learned something in the last week that I didn't know before. (And I'm not referring to the contamination calc - I already knew that).
 
Dinwar said:
Do you know that they haven't been helped? Remember, "helping the lurker" is a side-issue--unless we've actually HARMED a lurker it doesn't matter to some of us whether we've helped them or not, in terms of whether we'll continue the conversation or not.

Besides, in the last two pages people have posted the math for calculating contamination in radiometric samples--something that's certainly worth knowing for anyone interested in artifacts. So I'd say yeah, they probably have.
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Here, I would like to politely disagree with you. If the ratio of useful posts to useless posts is around 1 to 100, then isn't the signal-noise ratio at a point where only the most masochistic viewers will come across the worthwhile information? And even if a poster remembers that somewhere in this thread is a useful calculation that can be used in another message board, how long will it take that JREFer or lurker to find it.

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Forget it.

I withdraw all questions, accusations, assertions, and claims.

I am not in a position to judge the usefulness or uselessness of this thread.

I abandon all positions I have held on this page. There is no need to respond to any of my posts.


ETA: I apologize for not knowing that there is a thread ignore feature. I will use it know.
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The only point I will stand behind is that I deserve to be mocked for reappearing.
 
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SO there's some benefit, but it's very mild for anyone who hasn't gone along for the whole ride. Considering the fact that the lurkers are, for at least some of us, a side benefit, that's good enough.

What is the point of continuing to taunt him?
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I'm not taunting him. I'm trying to teach him basic scientific reasoning. He's attacking something related to MY field, so there's some degree of obligation to combat such insanity.
 
Ladewig said:
Forget it.

I withdraw all questions, accusations, assertions, and claims.

I am not in a position to judge the usefulness or uselessness of this thread.

I abandon all positions I have held on this page. There is no need to respond to any of my posts.


ETA: I apologize for not knowing that there is a thread ignore feature. I will use it know.
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The only point I will stand behind is that I deserve to be mocked for reappearing.
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There is no reason to mock you.
Your opinion that Jabba can't be convinced is AFAIK shared by most posters.
We only differ at the amount of fun that we can get out of this thread.
Letting this thread die is an option, but for most of us the fun isn't over.
 
The convenient part about this thread is that, despite being almost 60 pages long, it still only takes up one line on the list in R&P, and hence, is easily avoidable if you don't want to bother any more. You could put X on ignore if you wanted, and it wouldn't even show up, but that might be a little extreme.
 
In the main, I don't disagree with Ladewig. This thread should be allowed to die.
Eventually it will, I guess.

But right now, if we all stop posting, the inevitable result will be jabba having an endless circular conversation with himself, so the thread would live on. And on. And on.
 
pgwenthold said:
Of course. They were specifically chosen for this project because of their expertise in doing these types of measurements. Yet, somehow, they are presumed to not do something completely obvious like remove external contaminants.

It's complete idiocy to suggest such a thing.
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Satan shrouded their minds. :duck:
 
Ladewig said:
Forget it.

I withdraw all questions, accusations, assertions, and claims.

I am not in a position to judge the usefulness or uselessness of this thread.

I abandon all positions I have held on this page. There is no need to respond to any of my posts.


ETA: I apologize for not knowing that there is a thread ignore feature. I will use it know.
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The only point I will stand behind is that I deserve to be mocked for reappearing.
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OK, consider your self mocked in the most thorough and complete way.

In fact here's a mocker just for you:

http://images.search.yahoo.com/imag...h1qktd&sigi=16ffi510c&sigb=11urn0g45&fr=moz35
 
I'm reminded of the phrase "All that is required for evil to prosper is for the good to do nothing." In this sense, continuing to engage a True Believer over and over again on the same old tired points is our way of refusing to let inane beliefs prosper. A search I did on DuckDuckGo shows both believer and skeptical results. This thread is not mentioned, but hopefully in time it will.
 
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