Moderated Will the 2012 Olympic Games in London be held?

[dafydd]

god is busy...he can't be expected to know everything...oh, wait....yes he should know everything.

The blind crazy woman doesn't know everything.

 

[Akuma Tennou]

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@Akuma Tennou, #1145

Did you know that there were only twelve signs of zodiac since time immemorial? Ophiucus is only added maybe this year or the year before? I do not know why. And you think that is right? Please read about zodiac signs in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac .

lol you're telling me that a new constellation appeared in the sky last year ?
since time immemorial there always have been thirteen signs. if you were fool enough to trust astrologists it's your problem, not mine. but stars don't lie

you said that some dates were on the cancer sign, they're not and never were. i don't care what (western) astrology tells. the fact is you are trying to interpret godly prophecies with pagan arts, which is a blasphemy (i already told you this too). another fact is that you don't know jack about those arts, and misuse them in a desperate attempt to confirm your own delusion

 

[Astreja]

Yes, I'm also aware of the fifth ex-horseman, the Four Horsemen of The Common Cold, the Four Horsemen whose appearance foreshadows any public holiday, the Four Horsemen of Panic, and Binky.

An eighth son of an eighth son (and sometimes a daughter as well)...

Binky is cute -- A real sweetums. He likes Macintosh and Gala apples, BTW. I confess I do get nervous when his rider addresses Me IN CAPITAL LETTERS, but then I remember that I can see him because of My Wizzardly predilection, and so far he hasn't shown up with an hourglass with My name on it. I think he just likes to drop by to say 'hi' to My cats.

Oh, and when does the dragon sweep a third of the stars out of the sky with his tail? I -so- want to put that on YouTube.

 

[Akuma Tennou]

Ophiucus is only added maybe this year or the year before?

sorry i missed a consequence to that part: you knew… but made the prophecy anyway? so:
* you interpreted "the voice"'s word using blasphemous arts
* you knew you were misreading said arts, but did it anyway to confirm your interpretation of "the voice"'s word
* you made a prophecy, since "the voice"'s word mentioned absolutely no date, that you clearly knew faulty

does "the voice" know about your prophecy? who's gonna take the responsibility of your unavoidable fail?

 

[Agatha]

Ricky don't lose that number

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@Agatha, #1123[/FONT

FONT=Verdana]I will not “come up with some ridiculous excuse as to why his holy spirit is a false prophet”. I firmly believe that the prophecies will happen on a Wednesday in the middle of the year and the cancellation of the 2012 Olympic Games. We still have two Wednesdays left, 07-11 and 07-18. I am sharing to you what I heard and learned from the Holy Spirit when I went to the Philippines two months ago (2012-05).[/FONT

I wish you'd stop with the annoying extraneous font tags.

I realise you believe that global nuclear war is about to happen, but it may have escaped your notice that nobody else here does. You have convinced nobody. When the war fails to start, and the Olympic games go ahead as planned, will you stop believing in the blind woman and the fake holy spirit? Or will you, as I suspect, come up with a ridiculous excuse and carry on believing, despite your bible's warning about false prophets?

FONT=Verdana]Did you know that it is ripe to happen? Did you know the trouble that is happening in the Philippines?

not a great deal of any major global importance, the best I can tell from Internet searching.

Did you know what is happening on the South China Sea?

Again, nothing that is more worrying than any other bits of sabre rattling around the world.

Did you know the financial crises that is gripping the euro? And the US dollar?

i had noticed the worldwide recession, but i don't think it will have any effect on the likelihood of imminent global thermonuclear war.

Did you know that the Chinese do not believe in the only true God? In China which is under communist rule, they are indoctrinated that there is no God. So they will be allowed to go out of China to conquer lands. In doing so, they will learn from Christian Chinese overseas that there is God. So when they go back to China, they will say that there is God. [/FONT

I believe your assertion about the religiosity of China has been shown to be completely wrong, just a couple of posts prior to this. Do you ever acknowledge and correct your errors? If you are concerned about countries with a lack of religion, you should be looking to the countries in Europe, rather than China. The 2010 British Attitudes survey revealed that 51% of British people consider themselves to have no religion.

Did you know about the four horsemen of apocalypse? Power was given to the red horse (Revelation 6:4) “to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another”. Death is what rides on the pale horse (Revelation 6:8) who will kill a fourth part of the earth “with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.”[/FONT

I have read the bible several times in various translations, but do not believe it to be true or useful, for the most part. Some of the non-supernatural history matches up to other historical records, but there are no fulfilled prophecies in it except the ones written after the fact, and all the god stuff is, in my opinion, fiction. So quoting from Revelation, a drug addled dream which has no predictive value, is a waste of your time.

FONT=Verdana] Will you change your belief from there is no God to there is God when the prophecies happen?

probably not. Even if I were to survive this nuclear war you are prophesying, I'd be too busy trying to stay alive and mourning those who died to think about your god. And an omnipotent god who gleefully predicts the death of over four billion people, without attempting to stop the war in which they will die, is not one I would want to worship. Come to that, the god of the bible is not worthy of worship either.

 

[Astreja]

Even if I were to survive this nuclear war you are prophesying, I'd be too busy trying to stay alive and mourning those who died to think about your god. And an omnipotent god who gleefully predicts the death of over four billion people, without attempting to stop the war in which they will die, is not one I would want to worship. Come to that, the god of the bible is not worthy of worship either.

^^^ This.

To spin one of Voltaire's famous quotes, "Si un dieu comme ça existait, il serait nécessaire de le détruire."

 

[Foolmewunz]

Wrong.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14838749

''More people go to church on Sunday in China than in the whole of Europe.
Many of China's churches are overflowing, as the number of Christians in the country multiplies. In the past, repression drove people to convert - is the cause now rampant capitalism?
It is impossible to say how many Christians there are in China today, but no-one denies the numbers are exploding.
The government says 25 million, 18 million Protestants and six million Catholics. Independent estimates all agree this is a vast underestimate. A conservative figure is 60 million. There are already more Chinese at church on a Sunday than in the whole of Europe.
The new converts can be found from peasants in the remote rural villages to the sophisticated young middle class in the booming cities.''

The Magnificent 7

^^^ This.

PeaceCrusader, have you not learned anything from what I've posted? I pointed this out to you in the first week of your silly thread. The Christian population of China is larger than the actual army. (Not the 200,000,000 nonsense... but the real armed forces.) There are an estimated 130,000,000 Christians in China. Who are you with your feeble-minded blind lady to tell them that they don't believe in the One True God? It seems to me that all you Christians are pretty much the same and believe that your big sky daddy is The Big Skydaddy of them all.

19 Days and Counting Down...

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

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@Lukraak Sisser, #1120

The Holy Spirit just said in the middle of the year back in the 1990s. The middle of a common year is between July 1 and July 2; of a leap year like this year, July 1. I am the one who used the zodiac sign of Cancer which encompasses July 1 and July 2. And cancer is the sickness of the society that we have at the moment so there is a need for radical surgery. The Holy Bible does not have any references to astrology.

Did you learn anything from what I post? I share to you what the Holy Spirit said. Believe Him or not. The decision is yours. Your salvation depends upon your belief in the only true God and your deeds, and not on anything else.

When I am expressing my own opinion to what He said, I say I guess or I do not know.

One Hundred and EIGHTY!!

I learned that you have no idea that the disease cancer and the zodiac sign cancer are two completely different things.
I learned that you seem incapable of thinking for yourself and would rather follow someone elses advice than seek out your own path.
I learned that you will latch on to any sliver of half truth in a mountain of falsehoods rather than admitting your Holy spirit is a woman deluding you.
Oooh wait, I also learned that you have NO idea how nuclear weapons work.
And I learned that you are also clueless as to how international relations work.
And you seem to have no idea how hard it is to mobilize a country for even a brush war, let alone a full scale world wide invasion.

What I hope YOU learn from this is that there is no god. No holy spirits. And that maybe instead of following others you yourself should decide what is wrong and right in your life.

 

[Akhenaten]

10 to the dozen

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@Lukraak Sisser, #1120[/FONT


Did you learn anything from what I post?]/FONT

The decision is yours. Your salvation depends upon your belief in the only true God and your deeds, and not on anything else.[/FONT

So this three-metre wall of draft stoppers I've built around my house is a waste of time?

That's a bit of a disappointment.

When I am expressing my own opinion to what He said, I say I guess or I do not know.[/FONT

I don't think you need to say anything. Most of us have figured out your level of clue havingness all by ourselves.

 

[Akhenaten]

Will you change your belief from there is no God to there is God when the prophecies happen?

Three Stooges


That will probably depend on how well my draft stoppers work.

 

[Robrob]

...must have noticed if she is just changing her voice. For one, she is a woman. So a woman’s voice. The Holy Spirit is a man. So a man’s voice.

Because of course no actor in the history of theater has ever changed their voice?

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

A better name for PeaceCrusader would be FearMonger.

I am amused at the irony of someone calling themselves PeaceCrusader while unemotionally posting about an imminent nuclear holocaust in which several billion people die.

 

[Stomatopoda]

Really, "peace crusader" is an oxymoron by itself, regardless of what he posts.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

It's nice you have beliefs. Will you apologize to this board when nothing happens?

I hope you survive the humiliation when nothing happens.

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@R.A.F., #1158

I will repeat what I said before. Yes, I will apologize to all of you if the prophesied World War III does not occur on either 07-11 or 07-18, and the 2012 Olympic Games proceeds as planned. I will stop my Internet activities, but I will continue my search for the only true God.

How about you, R.A.F., if the prophecies come true, and you survive the nuclear holocaust, what will you do? Will you believe in the Holy Spirit that I believe in?

 

[dafydd]

How about you, R.A.F., if the prophecies come true, and you survive the nuclear holocaust, what will you do? Will you believe in the Holy Spirit that I believe in?

You know very well that the Olympics will take place. There is no sign of a military build up in China, your blind woman doesn't even know the calender, she doesn't know that the sign of Cancer and the disease cancer have nothing to do with each other and your ideas about the Chinese and god are wrong. I suggest that you either address these points or keep quiet until the Olympics start and then come back and apologize.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Wrong. Anyway, that doesn't alter the fact that your blind woman doesn't know the date of Cancer. When will you address that?

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@dafydd, #1151

I have told you that there were only twelve signs of zodiac since time immemorial. Ophiucus was only added recently. Maybe this year or last year. And it is not official yet because most, if not all, of the horoscope in newspapers carry only the twelve signs without Ophiucus.

I have told you that the Holy Spirit said that the war will be in the middle of the year back in the 1990s. That is more than ten years ago. Maybe, Ophiucus was not even conceived yet. That is why I thought that it must be under the sign of Cancer if it is in the middle of the year.


I repeat my question to you, dafydd. What will you do if the prophecies come true and you survive the nuclear holocaust?

 

[dafydd]

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@dafydd, #1151

I have told you that there were only twelve signs of zodiac since time immemorial. Ophiucus was only added recently. Maybe this year or last year. And it is not official yet because most, if not all, of the horoscope in newspapers carry only the twelve signs without Ophiucus.

I have told you that the Holy Spirit said that the war will be in the middle of the year back in the 1990s. That is more than ten years ago. Maybe, Ophiucus was not even conceived yet. That is why I thought that it must be under the sign of Cancer if it is in the middle of the year.


I repeat my question to you, dafydd. What will you do if the prophecies come true and you survive the nuclear holocaust?

Wrong. And I cannot even consider your question. There is no holy spirit, the Olympics will take place. When the ''prophecy'' was made has no bearing on the matter. If you want to believe the ravings of a blind madwoman, that is up to you. See you when the Olympics start.

 

[Pixel42]

I have told you that there were only twelve signs of zodiac since time immemorial. Ophiucus was only added recently. Maybe this year or last year.

I remember first reading about Ophiucus, and how astrologers had utterly failed to account for it, in astronomer Patrick Moore's book "Can You Speak Venusian?". The book was published in 1972.

And it is not official yet because most, if not all, of the horoscope in newspapers carry only the twelve signs without Ophiucus.

Astrologers have been wilfully ignoring Ophiucus for centuries. I see no indication that they're ever going to acknowledge its existence and correct the number of signs they recognise accordingly, let alone that they've done so in the last couple of years

 

[laca]

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@R.A.F., #1158

I will repeat what I said before. Yes, I will apologize to all of you if the prophesied World War III does not occur on either 07-11 or 07-18, and the 2012 Olympic Games proceeds as planned. I will stop my Internet activities, but I will continue my search for the only true God.

That's fine. However, in that case, I hope you realize that you need to change your methodology, because the current one failed miserably.

 

[blue sock monkey]

...if the prophecies come true, and you survive the nuclear holocaust, what will you do? Will you believe in the Holy Spirit that I believe in?

Beat Me Daddy, Eight To The Bar.


In the highly unlikely event that any part of your prophecy were to come true, it would not alter my views on the non-existence of a deity. At a minimum, you would still need to further demonstrate that the prophecy & its fulfillment were not mere coincidence, that the prophecy was not so vague that it would inevitably have "come true" at some point in time, and that it had a verifiable connection with some non-material being which you have defined as "god."