I still think it's an excellent point that DOC makes: The mere fact of being named something, even by thousands or millions, does not make the name itself nor the accompanying descriptions accurate.Evidence that you had a history professor at all?Your 6,900+ posts are solid evidence of an utter lack of education rather than anything else.
And while a nice quip, there's a lot more to know about the HRE than that.
Merged Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth - (Part 2)
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Yes, and actually the A was in Philosophy 101 which included a logic segment.
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Of infinitesimal length, we must surmise.
Seconded. This thread is not about you, DOC.
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That would be an excellent point, if DOC were actually making it. The context belies that.
The personal observation comes a few verses later where he says Christ also appeared to him.
Acts Chapter 1 v. 26 says Matthias was chosen as a replacement of Judas, so there was 12 at that time. In Acts 1: 23 Peter said the new apostle must be one who has been with us the whole time:
Acts 1 verse 23: "Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus was living among us, beginning from John’s baptism to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection.”
So Matthias, the replacement of Judas was with them the whole time right up to the time Jesus was taken up. So at the time Paul made his statement, it can be inferred the 12 apostles in existence at that time had seen the ressurrected Christ.
The time frame of the gospels ended at Christ being ascended up to heaven. Christ could have appeared to the over 500 after that time frame, like he did to Paul. Also note Paul says over half of the over 500 are still alive. This would be a crazy thing to say if not true because people could easily come up to Paul and say Ok where are these supposed over 250 people (who witnessed the risen Christ) who are still alive.
I disagree.
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Ok, DOC. I shall assume you are telling the truth regarding your A in Philosophy 101. I shall also assume that you performed "A" quality work in the logic segment of the course.
Now, DOC, I ask you to apply the logic that was taught in this course to my following question. I do not ask for your opinion or slant, but rather a cold analytic detachment of what your lessons in logic would conclude, ok?
Do you believe a document that has some verifiable truthful statements is logically sound evidence that other statements in the same document are true?
Please justify your position using the material taught to you in your logic class.
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How does this differ from the hundreds (thousands?) of reported sightings of zombie Elvis?
And we know this is a true story because ________________________ ?
And we know this is a true story because ________________________ ?
You can infer whatever you like, DOC, but the only thing we have evidence for is that this is the yarn that Paul (the founder of Christianity) wanted everyone to believe.
Or like Jesus' mum appears in slices of toast every other day.
How do you know they didn't?
So bloody what?
Exactly! Just like he did to Paul. A light in the midday sky and a voice. Paul's companions didnt share the experience. All they saw was Paul throwing a fit. They did NOT see a physical person accessible to the eyes of anyone nearby. They saw a fellow traveller falling to the ground and going blind. It was a hallucination, by all the evidence. And Paul says it was the same experience that the apostles had. I believe this. For them also, it was a allucination. So I don't believe in the story of Doubting Thomas in John 20, or Jesus treating the apostles to a fish supper in John 21.
He says it in a letter to his Greek followers in Corinth. He doesn't say it in the streets of Jerusalem. When he does say things there, by the way, the people of Jerusalem try to lynch him, and he has to be rescued by the Romans.
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Enjoy. Doherty dissects the book chapter by chapter, 24 parts so far.No, I haven't, but I most certainly will now.
Many thanks.
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"He says it in a letter to his Greek followers in Corinth. He doesn't say it in the streets of Jerusalem. When he does say things there, by the way, the people of Jerusalem try to lynch him, and he has to be rescued by the Romans. "
I like that.
I like that.
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Or on tortillas. The tortilla gig was my favorite. Or was that Jesus? Same difference, anyhow.
So are you saying Paul (who used to persecute Christians and approve of their deaths) purposely lied in the letter and then went out continuing to risk his life and getting beat up preaching high morality and deep spirituality?
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Act 9:7 (Young's Literal Translation) says the men heard the voice but didn't see anyone
"And the men who are journeying with him stood speechless, hearing indeed the voice but seeing no one"
That verse although not perfectly clear implies they heard the voice talking to Paul.
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