General Holocaust Denial Discussion Part II

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Matthew Ellard said:
If you don't know what a Polish accent sounds like then how in hell did you reach your stupid conclusion that there were secret Polish Jewish enclaves "somewhere" in eastern Europe? That is pretty stupid even for a junior holocaust denier.

Who said anything about secret Polish Jewish enclaves? I suppose there are Jews in Poland today but I'm talking about Jewish communities outside of Europe. I said go to places where there are large Jewish communities and look for elderly Jews with Eastern European accents if you want to find survivors. If you did that in Poland I suspect all the elderly Jews would have eastern European accents. Probably all the young ones too. Maybe even the non-Jews in Poland would have eastern European accents.

I have just come back from Estonia, Hungary, Croatia etc after talking to families who work in the magazine publishing industry. Now, if they don't know of any secret Jewish holocaust communities why do you claim they exist based on holocaust denier propaganda? Will you now name one "community" or retract your extremely stupid claim?
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You'd expect families who work in magazine publishing to know about any secret Jewish holocaust communities that might exist? Why is that? Is that because you think da Joos control the mass media? And no I am not going to retract my extremely stupid claim that there are elderly holocaust survivors living in Jewish communities today. It's not an extremely stupid or even a stupid claim. You can find elderly holocaust survivors living in communities that are not predominately Jewish as well but I'd start with the Jewish communities. Do you really need help with this? Beverly Hills, Larchmont, or Fairfax if you're in the LA area would be one place to look. If you like the east coast, try Crown Heights. I hear Boca Raton has a couple of elderly Jews as well.
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Well, guys, that's it. He's right. There are elderly Holocaust survivors who might be living in Boca Raton, and that proves the Holocaust never happened.

Might as well pack up and go home.
 
Dogzilla said:
No, as I have said, I haven't read the book. I don't know if it blows a huge hole in my beliefs. But you're correct that I don't know how to react to it because I don't know what it says. I'd ask you for a summary but given your track record for misunderstanding what I and other people say, I'm not sure if I trust your accuracy.

Plus, you continue to demand that I offer an opinion on a subject which I have repeatedly stated I know nothing about. I assume that you're not simply trying to provoke me with a demand that you consciously know is unreasonable. Therefore, it's obvious to me and to everybody following this that, in your mind, a person does not need to be informed about a subject before discussing the subject or before before offering an opinion on the subject. I'm sorry but I don't share your conviction that an uninformed opinion is just as valuable as an informed opinion. But that's just me.

But your flippant remark about Eva Braun and Toto caused me to have a "No duh. Why didn't I think of that earlier?" moment. Cadaver dogs. I don't know how they do with bodies in a wax fat transformation state but Kola said they made his drill bits really smelly. The surface of the camps being littered with body parts might confuse the dogs somewhat but there should be a workaround for that. Bring a couple of cadaver dogs out the AR camps and see what they can find.
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I have read reviews of Rigg's book not the book itself. That gives me enough information to say there were Jews in the army, which I do not think you disagree with and that for Jews and Mischlings

"Numerous "exemptions" were made in order to allow a soldier to stay within the ranks or to spare a soldier's parent, spouse, or other relative from incarceration or far worse. (Hitler's own signature can be found on many of these "exemption" orders.)"

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html

This is indeed a tricky one for you and Clayton as you do need to explain why Hitler was so personally involved. For me it is very clear evidence that Hitler approved of the Holocaust genocidal ethnic cleansing policy towards the Jews and whilst yes there is no written order, there are numerous written exemptions.

I am not going to let you bury or ignore this issue as it does not suit your cause.

The regarding the comment about Toto the dog, it clearly relates to your ridiculous comment about the same, with a reason that it reflects how you treated what I was saying with contempt. I have made a great effort to answer your questions directly, please do the same for me.
 
He's painful. Better get out the 'phone book Dogzilla. Start ringing up and if you hear any trace of an Eastern European accent, tell him that they are in no way putting any holes into your belief. LOL

I've seen all this crap before. The Miami beach gambit. It's unimpressive and asinine. The tosh about dogs. Well that's sort of new and also disgusting and cheap. But you should go and see Kola Dogzilla, see a bit of the World. After all you've just implied he's a liar.
 
OCaptain said:
Please provide documentation to prove this claim or retract.
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Go to google news archives and search for "six million Jews" restricting the range to Jan. 1, 1900 to Dec. 31, 1933. See how many stories you find about six million Jews in Europe in peril while the world slumbers. Try variations of that (e.g., 6 million or 6000000) to get more results. But this doesn't prove anything because it was Russia and Poland where the Jews were doomed. Not Germany.
 
Dogzilla said:
Go to google news archives and search for "six million Jews" restricting the range to Jan. 1, 1900 to Dec. 31, 1933. See how many stories you find about six million Jews in Europe in peril while the world slumbers.
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Your search - six million jews - did not match any news results

Your search - 6 million jews - did not match any news results.

Your search - 6000000 jews - did not match any news results

As you apparently can find them, perhaps you should give direct links to them.
 
Marras said:
Your search - six million jews - did not match any news results

Your search - 6 million jews - did not match any news results.

Your search - 6000000 jews - did not match any news results

As you apparently can find them, perhaps you should give direct links to them.
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I suspect you're not using google correctly. Try looking for "Jews" and see if you find something.
 
Dogzilla said:
I suspect you're not using google correctly. Try looking for "Jews" and see if you find something.
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You have the links at hand, just post them. What is so hard about this that you can't just show us rather than making us do your dirty work for you?
 
ANTPogo said:
Yes, just Google "Jews". That'll narrow things down!
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If he doesn't find any stories with that, we'll know google is malfunctioning. If he does get some hits, we'll know that the reason he can't find six million jews is operator error.
 
This article tries to argue "that Hitler had been such a softy when it came to the Jewish Question"

http://www.nazigassings.com/V2.html

using Riggs and others studies regarding exemptions. The author Verohnika Clark goes on to say about Hitler

"He undoubtedly did care about Jews, and the fact that he allowed at least 150,000 Jews to fight for Germany during WWII, as well as the fact that he personally granted nearly 20,000 Jews exemption from internment means that revisionism is imperative to historical accuracy."

This is a strange way of caring which needed the absolute highest level of approval to exempt Jews from being discriminated against, ethnically cleansed and murdered. It is like trying to argue you care about German people by being nice to one and then killing the next 100 you meet.

Her conclusion repeats this strange claim

"At least 150,000 Jews served in Hitler’s honorable Nazi-Sozi Wehrmacht. Nearly 20,000 received his personally approved review and clemency, as he spent hours upon hours reviewing Jewish clemency papers, so as not to wrongfully intern and deport decent Jewish people. The truth of the matter is, Hitler was very lenient with Jewry, and the Jews were far safer under his rule than the Russians had been under [the two Jews] Lenin or Stalin’s rule. Hitler was a kind-hearted and generous man who gave Jews more than enough monetary and moral compensation while he was in power."

If Hitler was so lenient with the Jews as the author suggests, he would not have had to exempt any of them from anything. Instead he ordered numerous anti-semitic laws and presided over the Holocaust. Then for reasons of expediency he granted some exceptions for those who could benefit the Nazis. Since most of those where Mischlings and not full blooded Jews (the article quotes "It is documented that at least 306 officers in the German military were Jews" but then "At least 150,000 Jews served in Hitler’s honorable Nazi-Sozi Wehrmacht") it would be a more accurate conclusion to say Hitler was prepared to be lenient to Mischlings who were prepared to work, fight and be loyal to him. The rest, mostly full blooded Jews, well they got no exemptions.
 
Dogzilla googling means nothing at all, you have no arguments, no evidence your position is made of thin air.
 
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