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Merged Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth - (Part 2)

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Akhenaten said:
Originally Posted by DOC
And one of those writers was Luke, a man archaeologist Sir William M. Ramsay said was a great historian {regarding non-supernatural events}.
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Even if you get a pass on the rest of this claim, where is the evidence for the highlighted bit?
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Do I qualify for the million dollars if I predict that DOC will mention the bible now?
 
Akhenaten said:
Unfortunately this is only a low budget thread and the best we can offer is one of my cookies and one of catsmate's delicious muffins.
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I'll happily settle for those. You can't buy happiness after all... but a cookie and a delicious muffin definitely gets you there.

Who wants to be a millionaire?
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Me, eventually.
 
Mudcat said:
Are you kidding me, DOC? The catholic church and the most recent pope are what you're using as your ace in the hole for this argument? Really?

Perhaps you're aren't aware of it, but because of of the abuses of the RCC in just the past hundred years (and it gets much worse the further back you go) it, and the pope, doesn't have much credibility. Even amongst the adherents to the catholic faith.

You fail. At life. At failing. Please stop, you're just embarrassing yourself.


Ah crap, I just resurrected a zombie thread becaused the quoted section was quoted in the evidence thread. Can a mod please move this to that thread?
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Yes, you are responding to a quote made over 5 years ago in another thread.
 
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wollery said:
He probably meant that it would be wrong to dismiss them out of hand, i.e. some of the stuff is correct, so we should examine other sources to see which bits, but I'd need to see the quote in context.

Say, DOC, could you quote the whole paragraph that that quote comes from please. Should be easy for you since you have the book.....
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I don't have access to the book "Did Jesus Exist?" at this time; I did earlier though. I doubt I'll pay $26 for it in the future.
 
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DOC said:
...Remember the gospels were written by 8 or 9 writers who had no idea their writings would end up in something called a bible. And one of those writers was Luke, a man archaeologist Sir William M. Ramsay said was a great historian {regarding non-supernatural events}.
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Actually, I meant to say the New Testament (not the gospels) were written by 8 or 9 writers.
 
DOC said:
I don't have access to the book at this time; I did earlier though. I doubt I'll pay $26 for it in the future.
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You're quoting from a book that you don't have access to?

How do you know that the quotes you're giving are accurate?

Did you make crib notes when your friend loaned you the book for a day?

Or have you just used online reviews and snippets that could quite easily be out of context or altered?
 
DOC said:
I don't have access to the book at this time; I did earlier though. I doubt I'll pay $26 for it in the future.
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Hmmm . . .


DOC said:
joobz said:
Another post avoiding an apology for falsely implying Agatha had not read the book that you, yourself, had not read.
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This is false, I merely asked for the page numbers of the information she was giving. I gave page numbers 2 or 3 times. There was always the chance she could have not portrayed exactly what Ehrman said since she seemed to be saying it on memory.
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Hypocrisy much, DOC?

Haven't noticed your apology yet, by the way. You sure must be putting a lot of work into it.
 
DOC said:
I don't have access to the book at this time; I did earlier though. I doubt I'll pay $26 for it in the future.
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Leviticus 6:2-7

2 If a soul sin, and commit a trespass against the Lord, and lie unto his neighbour in that which was delivered him to keep, or in fellowship, or in a thing taken away by violence, or hath deceived his neighbour;

3 Or have found that which was lost, and lieth concerning it, and sweareth falsely; in any of all these that a man doeth, sinning therein:

4 Then it shall be, because he hath sinned, and is guilty, that he shall restore that which he took violently away, or the thing which he hath deceitfully gotten, or that which was delivered him to keep, or the lost thing which he found,

5 Or all that about which he hath sworn falsely; he shall even restore it in the principal, and shall add the fifth part more thereto, and give it unto him to whom it appertaineth, in the day of his trespass offering.

6 And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the Lord, a ram without blemish out of the flock, with thy estimation, for a trespass offering, unto the priest:

7 And the priest shall make an atonement for him before the Lord: and it shall be forgiven him for any thing of all that he hath done in trespassing therein.​
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Got a sheep handy, DOC?
 
wollery said:
You're quoting from a book that you don't have access to?

How do you know that the quotes you're giving are accurate?...
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The quotes and page numbers I made are accurate. Go to a bookstore and see for yourself.
 
DOC said:
Akhenaten said:
So . . .

That's the last we'll be hearing of it then, is it?
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I reserve the right to give those quotes I've mentioned in responding to a post.
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And I reserve the right to keep pointing out that for all we know you might be making up the stuff you claim to be quoting.

After all, you've been shown to have lied about what was written on the inside cover of the book, so it would be pretty naive of us to assume that you wouldn't do the same with the actual contents of the damned thing.
 
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Akhenaten said:
You appear to have misread the question so I've highlighted a key word for you.
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No, I didn't misread it. I got the quotes by reading a portion of the book myself. Don't you think if the quotes and page numbers were inaccurate someone would have jumped on it by now.
 
DOC said:
No, I didn't misread it. I got the quotes by reading a portion of the book myself. Don't you think if the quotes and page numbers were inaccurate someone would have jumped on it by now.
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So, you haven't read the whole book yet, then?
 
DOC said:
No, I didn't misread it. I got the quotes by reading a portion of the book myself. Don't you think if the quotes and page numbers were inaccurate someone would have jumped on it by now.
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Someone did . . .


Akhenaten said:
DOC said:
h.g.Whiz said:
What book?
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"Did Jesus Exist" by Skeptic Bart Ehrman.
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Yeah, but which edition?


This one:

DOC said:
"Skeptic favorite Bart Ehrman's new book says "YES, JESUS OF NAZARETH DID EXIST.
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Or this one:


DOC said:
Here is a quote from the inside jacket of the book.

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YES, THE HISTORICAL JESUS OF NAZARETH DID EXIST.
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