Continuation: Discussion of the George Zimmerman case

[triforcharity]

He doesn't even need any injuries at all.

Really? So, how would he have been in fear of his life or in fear of GBI? Please, explain how that works in THIS case specifically. I'd LOVE to hear this load of bolderdash....

And no one is whining or crying or stomping their feet.

If you insist.

I haven't claimed his injuries were severe, or claimed he needed stitches, other than as a joke.

But yet, that is GZ's claims. There's no getting around that. GZ makes the claims. The evidence doesn't support those claims.

If you'd stop attacking other people for five minutes, maybe we could get somewhere in this discussion...

It's against board rules for a good reason, it ruins threads.

If you say:

again about me, you can have this discussion by yourself.

It's within the MA, so...

 

[Rare Truth]

Originally Posted by crimresearch
If the state wants to drag in the claim that Zimmerman's step up to murder was was because of his racism, they've opened the door for the defense to go after that.

The profiling was in regards to Z profiling him wrongly as a criminal. This was made abundanly clear in the charging affidavit.

Zimmerman, who also lived in the gated community, and was driving his vehicle observed Martin and assumed Martin was a criminal.

When you start with false premises, you end up with false conclusions.

 

[Rare Truth]

So, you're saying a hispanic could never hate another race or ethnicity?

Blacks could never hate whites?

"Is this just a game of 'taunt the Mexican' for you?" - crimresearch

"Mexicans walkin on the side of the street, soft *** wanna be thugs messin with peoples cars when they aint around" and "gettin knifes pulled on you by every mexican you run into!" - George Zimmerman

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...ace-page-includes-slurs-against-mexicans?lite

 

[Rare Truth]

Here's a link to the bond hearing, in case anyone missed it.

http://www.wral.com/news/video/11004815/#/vid11004815

 

[Dancing David]

Thanks people to those who maintain decorum.

Thanks to the others for the side show, I am sorry to see that there is much hypocrisy and stupidity in name calling, poo flinging and urine spraying.

I will be back.

 

[Natural Born Skeptic]

So, you're saying a hispanic could never hate another race or ethnicity?

He said:

Since the defendant is every bit as non-white as the victim, and since the FBI doesn't seem to have uncovered too much in their civil rights investigation of GZ, I think the prosecution would be making a mistake to continue that approach.

You'll notice that nowhere did he say non-white people aren't capable of racism even though you somehow managed to read that into it, and replied with this:

Didn't know that white people were the only people capable of racism and bias.

Then he replied:

Then get a clue.

Goodbye.

That means he's saying that white people aren't the only ones capable of racism, but rather than explaining that to you in detail he dismissed your strawman argument with "then get a clue".

So now, apparently still not getting it, you again respond with:

So, you're saying a hispanic could never hate another race or ethnicity?

Blacks could never hate whites?

No, he just told you the opposite.

 

[triforcharity]

So, NBS, maybe YOU can explain this simple sentence.

"Since the defendant is every bit as non-white as the victim"

Now, the context is the State using George's perceived racism and bias as a motivation for his desire to catch TM, and not let him get away.

Because these ******** always get away.

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[KatieG]

So, NBS, maybe YOU can explain this simple sentence.

"Since the defendant is every bit as non-white as the victim"

Now, the context is the State using George's perceived racism and bias as a motivation for his desire to catch TM, and not let him get away.

Because these ******** always get away.

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Hahaahahahh! Being 1/2 white and 1/2 Peruvian makes you a non-white? Does crimresearch really believe that?

 

[Rare Truth]

Hahaahahahh! Being 1/2 white and 1/2 Peruvian makes you a non-white? Does crimresearch really believe that?

According to him, I think it makes him Mexican.

"Is this just a game of 'taunt the Mexican' for you?" - crimresearch

 

[Moss]

According to him, I think it makes him Mexican.

"Is this just a game of 'taunt the Mexican' for you?" - crimresearch

If I inferred correctly that actually refers to crimresearch himself, not GZ.

 

[Rare Truth]

If I inferred correctly that actually refers to crimresearch himself, not GZ.

How in Gawds green earth would a poster know an anonymous name on a discussion board is Mexican?

That doesn't make sense. It seemed to me, in the context of that post, he was referring to Z.

And if we *did* go with your inference, then are you saying crim is making a whine that he is being taunted because he's a Mexican?

Either scenario paints no good picture.

 

[Natural Born Skeptic]

So, NBS, maybe YOU can explain this simple sentence.

"Since the defendant is every bit as non-white as the victim"

Now, the context is the State using George's perceived racism and bias as a motivation for his desire to catch TM, and not let him get away.

Because these ******** always get away.

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Moderated content removed.

I'd be happy to explain more things to you. But before I do, I just want to make sure that you now understand and are acknowledging that nowhere did he say or intimate that only white people are capable of racism. Please confirm that. Otherwise it would be like moving on to subtraction lessons while you're still stuck on addition.

 

[crimresearch]

And they can bridge the gap using Zimmerman's activism in the beating of Sherman Ware at the hands of the son of a SPD lieutenant tied in with whatever the hell Serino did to get reassigned to overnight patrol.

ETA: MOM has already requested a Bill of Particulars from the state, so we should know sometime soon what the state's theory of crime is.

That whole Sherman Ware thing bears a striking resemblance to an iceberg's tip. Wonder how many of the officer's involved that night were also on duty the night Trayvon Martin was killed?

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...1_sherman-ware-justin-collison-jerry-hargrett

Gotta love the video of the cop's kid blindsiding the vicitim, while his friend can be heard screaming 'Justin!! Justin!!, What is wrong with you??'

 

[Rare Truth]

That whole Sherman Ware thing bears a striking resemblance to an iceberg's tip. Wonder how many of the officer's involved that night were also on duty the night Trayvon Martin was killed?

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...1_sherman-ware-justin-collison-jerry-hargrett
...

Uh Oh. Sound's CTish.




what a hoot.

 

[sgtbaker]

Uh Oh. Sound's CTish.




what a hoot.

It did sound a little CT, especially when the media was making a case against SPD for poorly handing white on black violence. Of course, that was way back when the cops didn't do an investigation, Zimmerman's gun was never taken, and the Sanford Police Department was covering for Zimmerman because a white man killed a black kid and his father was a judge.

 

[Unabogie]

It did sound a little CT, especially when the media was making a case against SPD for poorly handing white on black violence. Of course, that was way back when the cops didn't do an investigation, Zimmerman's gun was never taken, and the Sanford Police Department was covering for Zimmerman because a white man killed a black kid and his father was a judge.

Are you sure tu quoque is the right response there?

 

[crimresearch]

It did sound a little CT, especially when the media was making a case against SPD for poorly handing white on black violence. Of course, that was way back when the cops didn't do an investigation, Zimmerman's gun was never taken, and the Sanford Police Department was covering for Zimmerman because a white man killed a black kid and his father was a judge.

CTish, as in 'that never happened'?

 

[sgtbaker]

CTish, as in 'that never happened'?

I am not sure what you are saying never happened. I think I got you now. I am not saying any of it never happened. I am saying I think the media saw an opportunity to take the worst angle and go with it. IMHO, I think they went soft on the kid because he was a police officer's son, and the same thing would have happened if he punched a white guy in the fact.

For the record, Unabogie, I am attacking the media.

 

[Unabogie]

I am not sure what you are saying never happened.

And so it begins.

 

[Cainkane1]

About five years ago my mother and I went to an atm machine one very hot summer day when we observed a young black man wearing a hoodie approaching the bank area. I didn't like his looks and instead of taking out my atm card I drove to another bank.

I carry a firearm in my car at all times and I know how to use it. Yet and still I was in no mood to take the law into my own hands and perhaps be in a position to kill someone. I called the police and after questioning the kid was let go.

Later on this same kid robbed a bank and this time he was wearing no shirt. A silent alarm alerted the police and after a high speed chase they cornered him in an abandoned house. He fired on the police and he was killed.

I'm glad it wasn't me who ended the young mans life.

I'm no genius but I'm smart enough to let the police handle certain situations.