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Continuation: Discussion of the George Zimmerman case

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KatieG said:
Notice how I am clearly addressing this post to YOU?

What are the chances any board posters here will actually be on the jury?
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Thanks, I appreciate the quote.

What are the chances the jury pool heard about Lester's comment? :)

Actually I think it can be good. A juror may expect strong evidence, and if it is not presented, then that will weigh in GZ's favor.
 
KatieG said:
What the **** do you want from me? First, I was told I obviously don't know what the bond hearing was about! Second, I was accused of mistakenly believing the judge can go all postal and revoke bond on a whim or maybe he got his knickers in a twist. I was posting to specifically address the issue of what JKL said at the hearing vs. what was later included with his written ruling.

Then, when I clearly lay out posts which represent the FACTS of the case and the sequence of events at the bond hearing, you give me ****. What the **** is your problem? Don't you have some flies around that need their wings pulled off?

I was specifically addressing comments related to what JKL actually said at the bond revocation hearing vs. what was included in his written ruling.
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Some posters on message boards like to criticize damn near everything, while holding their nose up with an air of superiority, all the while sounding like petulant children.

After a while, you get to know who they are.
 
triforcharity said:
Do you have a citation for that? I don't recall that being said, but I could be wrong.
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(this is the very first instance of anyone saying anything about GZ and FT being anything more than friends BTW, and it's yours. )
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Again, nobody claimed they were best friends, OTHER than your OWN strawman.
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Nobody ... hmm...
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8391829&highlight=taaffe#post8391829
Z's BFF, Frank Taaffe: "The stage was already set. It was a perfect storm,”
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8387562&highlight=taaffe#post8387562
Just for **** s and grins, enter in George's best buddy Frank Taaffe [Francis Bruce Taaffe] at that site:
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8384539&highlight=taaffe#post8384539
Upon reading the bolded, I immediately thought of what GZ told his BFF, Frank Taaffe.
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KatieG said:
What the **** do you want from me? First, I was told I obviously don't know what the bond hearing was about! Second, I was accused of mistakenly believing the judge can go all postal and revoke bond on a whim or maybe he got his knickers in a twist. I was posting to specifically address the issue of what JKL said at the hearing vs. what was later included with his written ruling.

Then, when I clearly lay out posts which represent the FACTS of the case and the sequence of events at the bond hearing, you give me ****. What the **** is your problem? Don't you have some flies around that need their wings pulled off?

I was specifically addressing comments related to what JKL actually said at the bond revocation hearing vs. what was included in his written ruling.
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If I wanted anything from you, it would be to stop claiming I said things that other posters said... but we both know you aren't going to do that.

I'm not piling on you, the other posters asking you to clarify, and stop misquoting them aren't piling on you.

When you say that Judge Lester never said the evidence was strong during the 'bond hearing' (not bond revocation hearing), and insert something he said during the revocation hearing and a link that goes nowhere, that just doesn't make sense.

Which appears to mean that the chances of having any sort of discussion with you are zero.
 
KatieG said:
My first experiences with Jeralyn were during the JonBenet Ramsay murder case. If you listened to her long enough, John and Patsy Ramsay weren't even in the house that night! Since 1997 I've been exposed to her, her theories, her TV appearances and I'm not impressed. She's never met a defendant who is guilty. She's the karmic opposite of Nancy Grace.

I haven't put in an application for the $1million dollar challenge because I have no mysterious insight into the judge's thoughts. If Judge Lester was pissed because GZ lied by omission and SZ lied by commission, I don't blame him. I'd be more angry because their attempts to defraud the court were so 3 stooges like, maybe JKL thought the Zimmerman's thought he was just that stupid. He was angry enough to revoke GZ's bail. Not a good idea there, GZ.
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KatieG said:
Ok, tell me what the hell I said that makes you think that?
I know a judge doesn't make rulings because he doesn't like the defendant, he didn't get laid the night before, the coffee sucked that morning, whatever the **** reason. I am not going to go through another day of explaining to a micro degree why I posted what I did.
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I'll take the hilited sentence in the first post for $100, Alex...
 
Rare Truth said:
Z didn't make that call to Taafee from Jail - he called him early on, when Z was free and in hiding. Frank seemed to be one of the few people Z talked to.

Also, regarding FT's son, he died a few years ago - and it was from a drug overdose. Frank very likely did not talk about it. His other son, the brother of that deceased was posting on a website about it a while ago...(confirmed) (no, I'm not going to dig through the slush to find the postings) -- but he made it clear it was his deranged father that led the son to turn to drugs from his psychotic abuse, and led to him killing himself.

Frank Taaffee's entire family has disowned him, he abused all of them, FT's violent domestic abuse is a matter of record.

I highly doubt FT would offer up the details of a son he probably had some responsibility in driving into suicide.
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I don't know what type of human being Frank Taaffee is though you apparently know exactly who he is as a human being based on a few articles and a post from his son on a website. I do acknowledge there are some circumstances in which GZ would have talked to FT like that even if they are friends. It's unlikely however, and the conversation strongly suggests they were not.

BTW, if that conversation did not take place when GZ was in jail, how did anyone get a hold of it? What is the source of it?
 
Natural Born Skeptic said:
I don't know what type of human being Frank Taaffee is though you apparently know exactly who he is as a human being based on a few articles and a post from his son on a website. I do acknowledge there are some circumstances in which GZ would have talked to FT like that even if they are friends. It's unlikely however, and the conversation strongly suggests they were not.

BTW, if that conversation did not take place when GZ was in jail, how did anyone get a hold of it? What is the source of it?
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You can learn more about FT's run ins with the law(he's a convicted felon & wife beater) here: http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5797428

[Enter Francis Bruce Taaffe]

The answering msg recording was released by FT himself to the media, long before GZ was in jail.
 
Natural Born Skeptic said:
Nope, but I will say you've shown a history in this thread of being unable to reason things out and of seeing everything in black in white. You did it a few pages ago when you couldn't understand crimresearchs posts and kept insisting he said something he didn't and now you're doing it here again. I mean, if Frank says they are friends, they must be, and there couldn't possibly be any grey area there. :rolleyes:

Previous to reading that exchange someone would not be. If however after reading that exchange someone does not adjust their position, yes, delusional.
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That's odd that you didn't respond to the final post in the series where I thouroughly explained to you how you were the one mis-reading crimresearch's posts.

Yet another post by you that is incorrect and uncivil and attacking someone for no reason.

I often explain the excluded middle ground fallacy to people, so accusing me of only seeing in black and white is laughable.

I believe triforcharity explained quite clearly in post #900 who exactly was only seeing the friendship as a black and white not friends or BFF situation.

Perhaps you missed it?

Do you even know what the original claim was related to why Frank is being currently discussed?
 
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Cylinder said:
The < $10,000 was a PayPal issue.
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The money was IN the account already from PP, and this transfer OUT was in < 10,000.00 amounts.

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OnlyTellsTruths said:
That's odd that you didn't respond to the final post in the series where I thouroughly explained to you how you were the one mis-reading crimresearch's posts.
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Yes, it was pretty humorous considering that the poster himself also indicated he'd said nothing remotely resembling what you somehow managed to read into it.
 
Natural Born Skeptic said:
BTW, don't you refer to all your "friends" by "Mr"? I know I sure do :rolleyes:
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Amazing that this is a large basis for your position.

Do you not have any friends that are your elders? A generation or more older than you? Do you not respect your elders? Never been friends with a teacher?

And you accuse people who would call a friend Mr. of being delusional....
 
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Natural Born Skeptic said:
Yes, it was pretty humorous considering that the poster himself also indicated he'd said nothing remotely resembling what you somehow managed to read into it.
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That's odd because I specifically asked crim and there was no response.

Unbelievable that you missed it when it was claimed several times in both threads for months.

crims claim is that they have to prove that M did not go for the gun and that zero amount of proof that Z is a liar about any of the events surrounding that will matter.

Explained to you in detail here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8403738&postcount=680

If crim finally backs off that claim (or denies it outright) I would not be surprised.
 
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