Continuation: Discussion of the George Zimmerman case

[Cylinder]

I wonder if St. Skittles' truancy affected his decision to attack Zimmerman?

 

[Rare Truth]

I must say, there is nothing more entertaining than seeing you repeatedly refer to GZ as Tugboat and now Potted Palm, it's slide splitting and thigh slapping funny, {ed} Rare Truth.

To be insulted by you is to be garlanded with lilies...

 

[crimresearch]

I've never claimed this was premeditated murder. Thanks ever so much for not putting words in my fingers.

Then what exactly was your point in asserting that the word 'strong' had some significance in that context?

Since you remind us that you aren't a child, I will rule out that you were just randomly blurting out words by coincidence, and presume that you had a salient point.

 

[KatieG]

Then what exactly was your point in asserting that the word 'strong' had some significance in that context?

Since you remind us that you aren't a child, I will rule out that you were just randomly blurting out words by coincidence, and presume that you had a salient point.

There can be strong evidence of a crime without asserting premeditation. If you don't like to read my posts, scroll on by or put me on ignore. Then you won't have to worry about finding any salient points I might include in my posts.

 

[Natural Born Skeptic]

I didn't say JKL was revoking GZs bond because the case was strong.

Since I don't think Judge Lester is stupid, there was a reason he revoked GZ's bail. He's seen or is seeing something in this case that gives him a reason to say the case against GZ is strong.

 

[KatieG]

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If I had said

He's ALSO seen or is seeing something in this case that gives him a reason to say the case against GZ is strong.

would that have kept this from being an issue for y'all?

 

[crimresearch]

There can be strong evidence of a crime without asserting premeditation. If you don't like to read my posts, scroll on by or put me on ignore. Then you won't have to worry about finding any salient points I might include in my posts.

Or, you could clarify what your actual point is with your comments on Jeralyn, The judge's thoughts, etc.

 

[KatieG]

Or, you could clarify what your actual point is with your comments on Jeralyn, The judge's thoughts, etc.

What about Jeralyn? Don't like her, don't read her blog. I also have no insights into the judge's thoughts, other than what he said at the hearing.

 

[crimresearch]

You don't read her blog, but you know that she has 'never met' a defendant that she wasn't biased in favor of?

And you don't know anything about what the judge thought, but you're sure he thought something?

My bad, it is hard in this thread to tell who wants to actually have a useful discussion, and who doesn't care to.

 

[KatieG]

You don't read her blog, but you know that she has 'never met' a defendant that she wasn't biased in favor of?

And you don't know anything about what the judge thought, but you're sure he thought something?

My bad, it is hard in this thread to tell who wants to actually have a useful discussion, and who doesn't care to.

Done taking the bait. I'll check back in a bit to see what you're contributing to a useful discussion on this topic.

 

[Natural Born Skeptic]

If I had said

He's ALSO seen or is seeing something in this case that gives him a reason to say the case against GZ is strong.

would that have kept this from being an issue for y'all?

Yes, because than you would have been saying something completely different. When I pointed out that the judge did not revoke bail "because the case was strong", you even continued to argue the point, saying "that's what the judge said". We can't read your mind, if it's totally at odds with your typing.

 

[triforcharity]

One day in the near future
Prosecutor: Mister Zimmerman listen up, you plead guilty, we’ll give you 5 years, out in 3, also total protection on the inside, and we’ll drop the charges against your wife. Otherwise if you go to trial, costing the taxpayers of Florida untold millions and you get convicted, you go in on your own, and your wife will be tried and she’ll be on her own in prison.
Zimmerman: What?

Just a small nitpick. Florida has an 85% minimum rule for prison sentences. He'll serve 51 months minimum, and the courts can't order protective custody. Only the DOC can.

Sorry for the nitpick.

But yeah, I see a plea also.

 

[crimresearch]

Done taking the bait. I'll check back in a bit to see what you're contributing to a useful discussion on this topic.

As opposed to admitting to the hundreds of legal citations, factual references and correct explanations I've given already? Many of them to you?

And people asking you to clarify the obvious contradictions in your posts is 'bait'?

Honest communication isn't a trap.

 

[triforcharity]

I must say, there is nothing more entertaining than seeing you repeatedly refer to GZ as Tugboat and now Potted Palm, it's slide splitting and thigh slapping funny, {ed}Rare Truth.

Um, the potted palm was Judge Lester's words, not RT.

 

[crimresearch]

One day in the near future
Prosecutor: Mister Zimmerman listen up, you plead guilty, we’ll give you 5 years, out in 3, also total protection on the inside, and we’ll drop the charges against your wife. Otherwise if you go to trial, costing the taxpayers of Florida untold millions and you get convicted, you go in on your own, and your wife will be tried and she’ll be on her own in prison.
Zimmerman: What?

Sure... right after they chloroform his lawyer, so that he can't point out to George how many things are wrong with that...

 

[crimresearch]

Um, the potted palm was Judge Lester's words, not RT.

Judge Lester's words were to the effect of 'I can't let you or his wife testify while George sits there silently, *like* a potted palm...


The claim that the judge *called* George 'a potted palm' as an insult, came from the same quarter as 'the judge said that he was lying about the passport', 'DeeDee heard the gunshots', 'the magical audio software is hard science, while the FBI's is unproven', 'no broken nose, no blood', and other 'theories'.

 

[Rare Truth]

Um, the potted palm was Judge Lester's words, not RT.

And it was GZ himself (and his family) who called himself Tugboat. In addition to "datniggy."

 

[Natural Born Skeptic]

Um, the potted palm was Judge Lester's words, not RT.

I think we're all well aware that the term itself was originally used by Judge Lester.

 

[Rare Truth]

Judge Lester's words were to the effect of 'I can't let you or his wife testify while George sits there silently, *like* a potted palm...'
....

Well that's a distinction with a difference.

“Does your client get to sit there like a potted palm and let you lead me down the primrose path? That's the issue.”

Woo Hoo. We've determined Judge Lester doesn't think George actually *is* a tropical plant in a container, leading a judge astray into the trellised trail of primrosian gardens.

Rhetoricians cheer the world over.

 

[crimresearch]

Well that's a distinction with a difference.

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“Does your client get to sit there like a potted palm and let you lead me down the primrose path? That's the issue.”

Woo Hoo. We've determined Judge Lester doesn't think George actually *is* a tropical plant in a container, leading a judge astray into the trellised trail of primrosian gardens.

Rhetoricians cheer the world over.

Oh, you've made it painfully clear that the difference between rational discourse about what actually happened, and stirring up drama with the conspiracy theories, is laughable to you.