What do you think about this "proof" of telepathy?

[Michel H]

I understand that you are not yet convinced and encourage you to do your own simple double blind test. Something like this:

1. Get someone you trust whose thoughts you think you can hear to sit somewhere you can't see them but within earshot with a pack of cards and ten envelopes labelled 1 to 10.

2. They shuffle the pack then take ten cards from it in turn. They shout "ready" when they have each card in front of them and then concentrate on it for, say, 30 seconds, before putting the card in the appropriate envelope.

3. Simultaneously you concentrate on hearing their thoughts and write down the number and suit of the card you think they're seeing in order.

4. When all ten cards have been viewed your friend brings you the envelopes and you compare the cards with your list.

By chance you would expect to get the colour of the card right about 5 times, the suit right 2 or 3 times and the number right maybe once. Only if you get results significantly better than that would you have reason to believe you might genuinely be hearing the thoughts of others, in which case further testing would be warranted.

Pixel42, I cannot do such a test with people I (apparently) hear in my head because I don't know who these people are. In addition, if I knew the names and locations of these persons (if they really do exist), they would probably not agree to do a telepathy test with me (or not do it well) because they know that telepathically whispering "Kill yourself!" (in French), like they often do, is wrong and they would probably be afraid of getting caught. I did a successful telepathy test with my mother in 2002 (on the phone) but, since then, she has always refused to do a new experiment, saying instead repeatedly "Your telepathy, it's a disease!" (with some violence).

I also would like to remind you (and other posters) that I have already presented evidence for telepathy in this thread (see my initial post). This evidence is different from results of a telepathy test with another person, but it is harder to fake, and easier to verify. I was hoping to get your smart comments on this evidence (received some, but not many so far). It is possible that some people in this forum enjoy more making disparaging comments on my "mental health", rather than analyzing the evidence for telepathy I bring, or try to bring.

 

[Pixel42]

I was hoping to get your smart comments on this evidence (received some, but not many so far).

The comments you have already received say all that needs to be said about this supposed "evidence".

If you are unable to do a suitably rigorous experiment, for whatever reason, then there is nothing more to be said at all, except to sincerely wish you well.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Pixel42, I cannot do such a test with people I (apparently) hear in my head because I don't know who these people are...

I also would like to remind you (and other posters) that I have already presented evidence for telepathy in this thread (see my initial post)...

Why would we assume the test had to involve your receiving messages from people you believe you hear in your head? The 'evidence' you linked to in your first post was not a test of your ability to heard other's thoughts in your head. It was a test to see if people you chatted with online could be influenced by what you were thinking, right? A test where you were the telepathic 'transmitter' and not the 'receiver'.

You wanted us to say what we thought of the results. Well, they were confused, weak and very far from rigorous.

If you repeated that type of experiment but using a rigorous format like Pixel42 described, then you would actually be able to measure the extent to which you can telepathically influence other people. (You'll be aware of course that I'd expect this influence to turn out to be zero.)

 

[Baloney]

I was hoping to get your smart comments on this evidence (received some, but not many so far). It is possible that some people in this forum enjoy more making disparaging comments on my "mental health", rather than analyzing the evidence for telepathy I bring, or try to bring.

Michel,

I disagree that you have not received smart comments with regards to your evidence. It has been pointed out by several people that your evidence is not scientifically or statistically valid due to your experiment design.

It is possible that some people in this forum enjoy more making disparaging comments on my "mental health", rather than analyzing the evidence for telepathy I bring, or try to bring.

Once again, I don't think most people here have been disparaging at all about your mental health. In fact, I think most of the posts here have shown ligitimate concern! Hearing voices is a huge red flag for certain disorders like schizophrenia and psychosis -- if you have been prescribed medication and aren't taking the meds, you could be creating a very dangerous situation for yourself. If you would really like definitive evidence of your telepathy, take any medication you've been prescribed according to the schedule and dosage instructed by your physician. If you no longer hear voices (or with less frequency), then you'll have demonstrated another valid data point in your body of evidence.

 

[Michel H]

Why would we assume the test had to involve your receiving messages from people you believe you hear in your head? The 'evidence' you linked to in your first post was not a test of your ability to heard other's thoughts in your head. It was a test to see if people you chatted with online could be influenced by what you were thinking, right? A test where you were the telepathic 'transmitter' and not the 'receiver'.

You don't have to assume it, Jack. It was Pixel42's idea (see posts above), that I try to do a test where one of the persons I supposedly hear in my head would be the transmitter and I would be the receiver. Actually, in all the tests I have done until now, I was the sender and the other person was the receiver. This includes all tests I have done on Yahoo Answers and all tests I did with my mother. I often talk telepathically with the unidentified persons I hear in my head (or, at least, I have this impression) but I don't call that telepathy tests.

 

[I am Bigfoot]

You don't have to assume it, Jack. It was Pixel42's idea (see posts above), that I try to do a test where one of the persons I supposedly hear in my head would be the transmitter and I would be the receiver. Actually, in all the tests I have done until now, I was the sender and the other person was the receiver. This includes all tests I have done on Yahoo Answers and all tests I did with my mother. I often talk telepathically with the unidentified persons I hear in my head (or, at least, I have this impression) but I don't call that telepathy tests.

Well then read a passage from a book, ANY book (the passage can be any length and keep the book a secret) and try to send it to a few people at a given time and see if they get it right.

 

[Pixel42]

It was Pixel42's idea (see posts above), that I try to do a test where one of the persons I supposedly hear in my head would be the transmitter and I would be the receiver. Actually, in all the tests I have done until now, I was the sender and the other person was the receiver.

You do realise that this doesn't affect the suitability of the protocol I gave you at all? Just swap the roles.

I'll spell it out for you:

1. Get someone you trust who you think can hear your thoughts to sit somewhere you can't see them but within earshot with a piece of paper and a pencil, whilst you have a pack of cards and ten envelopes labelled 1 to 10.

2. Shuffle the pack then take ten cards from it in turn. Shout "ready" when you have each card in front of you and then concentrate on it for, say, 30 seconds, before putting the card in the appropriate envelope.

3. Simultaneously your friend concentrates on hearing your thoughts and writes down the number and suit of each card they think you're seeing in order.

4. When all ten cards have been viewed your friend brings you the list and you compare the cards listed on it with the ones in your numbered envelopes.

By chance you would expect to get the colour of the card right about 5 times, the suit right 2 or 3 times and the number maybe once. Only if you get results significantly better than that would you have reason to believe others might genuinely be hearing your thoughts, in which case further testing would be warranted.