Simple question for Bigfoot enthusiasts: Why no unambiguous photos/videos?

This is an intersting post from there.

Re: Some action at bait [Re: AKbeardog]
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The guy in the suit in the famous "Patterson" film is Bob Heironimus from my hometown. He was at the local tavern throwing back a couple...

The guy who cut my hair for 20+ years (now dead) was a life long friend of Rodger Patterson so I got the whole story.
 
Drewbot said:
A recent thread on BFF asks the question
http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?...igfoot-field-videographer/page__fromsearch__1
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Apparently the reason Bigfoot's existence has been so hard to prove is simple camera operator error. Wow. Who'd have thunk it.

Drew's funny-and-oh-so-true post. And not even one response, intelligent or otherwise:

"You could never leave your house, eat cheetos and bon-bons all day and night, sleep 12 hours a day, not know how to operate a camera, and still be tied for 1st place, for the title of GREATEST BIGFOOT VIDEOGRAPHER EVER."
 
HarryHenderson said:
Apparently the reason Bigfoot's existence has been so hard to prove is simple camera operator error. Wow. Who'd have thunk it.

Drew's funny-and-oh-so-true post. And not even one response, intelligent or otherwise:

"You could never leave your house, eat cheetos and bon-bons all day and night, sleep 12 hours a day, not know how to operate a camera, and still be tied for 1st place, for the title of GREATEST BIGFOOT VIDEOGRAPHER EVER."
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I just like his monker on that link.. which I have never seen before with the BF eating constrictor..
 
Film behind me. Now why didn't I think of that? Say, why don't they just walk through the woods with cameras facing forwards and backwards?

If you suspect you may have an approach or one nearby, try filming behind you (with your back facing the area). You may have a better chance at a gaining some footage.
Many video cams have screens that flip around making it easier to still see what you're filming.

The chances of getting one step out in the open is next to nil. They approach with stealth and have a tendency to stay just out of sight. At least with your back turned, you may catch one moving to another tree, bush, etc.
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I have not had time to read the twenty pages Vortigern, I got to page 3, and got the general idea.

I can see why no one could get a good pic with a camera phone or other hand held camera simply because I would think your hand would be shaking.

The game cam issue remains a mystery to me. The simplest excuse, if you assume they exist, is that we have no clue where to put the cameras.

I think it's high time someone hung that two way mirrored ball, similar to a disco ball, with a camera inside, high up in a tree where it would be difficult for humans to reach.

Forget about hiding anything since bigfoot sees all, just make it so obvious they can't resist. A big glittery object to disguise the camera should do the trick. At least until he rips it down in his enthusiasm to play with it..........
 
Jodie said:
The game cam issue remains a mystery to me. The simplest excuse, if you assume they exist, is that we have no clue where to put the cameras.
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Where do you think hunters put their cameras?

ETA: And why do you think they put them there?
 
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Jodie said:
I have not had time to read the twenty pages Vortigern, I got to page 3, and got the general idea.

I can see why no one could get a good pic with a camera phone or other hand held camera simply because I would think your hand would be shaking.
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Even the stationary cameras mounted in strategic areas in the forest have come up empty.
 
Jodie, if you will proceed to page 4, you'll see the exact moment when I turned the corner and shifted my own position from "bigfoot might possibly exist" to "bigfoot probably doesn't exist", and then went on to enumerate the precise reasons why that shift occurred. I found the arguments provided by Longtabber PE and Kitikaze, among others, to be soundly logical and, indeed, irrefutable.

If you can think of some rational objections to our carefully stated position, please provide them so we can discuss them. Otherwise I think that you're clinging to a belief system that has no basis in fact or reason.

In the intervening years, my position has shifted further towards "bigfoot cannot possibly exist" for the same reasons we today reject the possible existence of unicorns, fairies and dragons.

Jodie said:
I have not had time to read the twenty pages Vortigern, I got to page 3, and got the general idea.

I can see why no one could get a good pic with a camera phone or other hand held camera simply because I would think your hand would be shaking.

The game cam issue remains a mystery to me. The simplest excuse, if you assume they exist, is that we have no clue where to put the cameras.

I think it's high time someone hung that two way mirrored ball, similar to a disco ball, with a camera inside, high up in a tree where it would be difficult for humans to reach.

Forget about hiding anything since bigfoot sees all, just make it so obvious they can't resist. A big glittery object to disguise the camera should do the trick. At least until he rips it down in his enthusiasm to play with it..........
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Resume said:
Where do you think hunters put their cameras?

ETA: And why do you think they put them there?
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I am assuming, since I do not hunt anything, much less bigfoot, that they base it off other sighting reports, if it's close to water, or up on a ridge, any number of current theories as to what they think bigfoot might need.
 
Vortigern99 said:
Jodie, if you will proceed to page 4, you'll see the exact moment when I turned the corner and shifted my own position from "bigfoot might possibly exist" to "bigfoot probably doesn't exist", and then went on to enumerate the precise reasons why that shift occurred. I found the arguments provided by Longtabber PE and Kitikaze, among others, to be soundly logical and, indeed, irrefutable.

If you can think of some rational objections to our carefully stated position, please provide them so we can discuss them. Otherwise I think that you're clinging to a belief system that has no basis in fact or reason.

In the intervening years, my position has shifted further towards "bigfoot cannot possibly exist" for the same reasons we today reject the possible existence of unicorns, fairies and dragons.
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Y'all don't have much of a sense of humor do you? I thought the disco ball imagery was kind of humorous.

But I will go back to page 4 and read what you have to say, I probably won't disagree with too much. I think I would discount Longtabber's POV and just stick with Kit's.
 
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Jodie said:
I am assuming, since I do not hunt anything, much less bigfoot, that they base it off other sighting reports, if it's close to water, or up on a ridge, any number of current theories as to what they think bigfoot might need.
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Sightings sure, but mostly game trails. You know, the things those animals travel along. Like paths human use. You' think that if a footer regularly sighted Footie in a certain area, there'd be some sort of pathway nearby, given the alleged foot-size of the alleged creature. There'd have to be.

Unless you think Footie wanders about willy-nilly.
 
Ok I read your list. My only criticism is we assume we know what it needs. If it exists we are missing some critical piece of the puzzle, the other alternative is it simply doesn't exist.

So these so called researchers, which is the wrong term to use in my opinion, have no facts to base their research on. Even if they were all using identical investigative techniques, I'm not sure they could build a case for bigfoot just based on what they supposedly have collected in the way of prints, hair, and the like.

My biggest issue is not leaving any trace of passage, something that big has got to trip at some point, if nothing else. I have never been to the PNW but my brother lived there and he says the forest floors are clean.

Here in the south, it would be impossible to leave no trace because of the dense vines, weeds, and grasses we have. You can't avoid stepping on them because they are everywhere, even in the winter, and they leave obvious sign.
 
Resume said:
Sightings sure, but mostly game trails. You know, the things those animals travel along. Like paths human use. You' think that if a footer regularly sighted Footie in a certain area, there'd be some sort of pathway nearby, given the alleged foot-size of the alleged creature. There'd have to be.

Unless you think Footie wanders about willy-nilly.
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Ditto, that is the the very thing that bugs me.
 
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