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Anyone else pick up on this ?

There is someone from MI selling BF hair on ebay. Claims to have set out traps to somehow collect it etc...

Good Grief !
 
Looks like there are two sellers (Michigan and Washington State) with three listings and one has a bid. So.. yes.. someone out there is interested in purchasing said item ?
 
Not to change subjects ... ok, to change subjects. Last night I watched River Monsters and Jeremy Wade is able to catch a rare Glyphis shark (estimated global population of 500) that was about 4 feet long and weighed maybe 40 pounds. It's natural habitat is theorized to be portions of Australia and New Guinea and the OCEAN in between. So, I have to ask, a guy fishes in a river and catches a shark that had never been photographed alive; a shark that has a huge potential habitat (the ocean and inland rivers), but we are unable to find an 8 foot tall, 600 pound primate in North America in limited locations ? This is where the whole Squatch theory just falls flat on it's face. We are not talking some blurry picture of a shark in muddy water; we are talking live specimen. We are not talking some mystery DNA of some unknown shark; we are talking live specimen. So, maybe we should hire Jeremy Wade to hook us a Bigfoot, because apparently no one else seems capable of producing a live specimen.
 
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Well.. it helps to have something actually living and existing to catch , eh ? Seems to reallly improve the odds !
 
There are plenty of things out there in the forests and the oceans waiting to be discovered.

I imagine that how a shark's brain works is of no comparison for how a primate's brain functions, assuming bigfoot is a primate, even if you only wanted to consider it hypothetically.

Do you go about capturing a land based mammal, say a squirrel for example, in the same way you reel in a bass?
 
Given the physical size of the supposed primate and the population estimates by Meldrum and BFRO, I would say the probability of finding a large primate exceed those of finding a rare shark. New primates are discovered all the time in areas with an archeological and zoological record of such animals in that area. Neither of those exist in North America. There is no archeological evidence of a native large primate in North America, other than man. There is no zoological evidence of a large primate in North America outside of feral pets released into the wild. Frankly, prior to 1965, there isn't even annecdotal evidence of a large primate in North America (and the supposed indian legends don't count, as most are not related to "Bigfoot"). So, there may be many unknown species in forests and oceans wating to be discovered, unfortunately, Bigfoot is not one of them. One thing to note, there was physical evidence of the Glyphis shark before Jeremey Wade hooked and landed one. To date, there is nothing supporting the existence of Bigfoot beyond blurry photos, now debunked film, and likely hoaxed footprints.
 
Jodie said:
There are plenty of things out there in the forests and the oceans waiting to be discovered.

I imagine that how a shark's brain works is of no comparison for how a primate's brain functions, assuming bigfoot is a primate, even if you only wanted to consider it hypothetically.

Do you go about capturing a land based mammal, say a squirrel for example, in the same way you reel in a bass?
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Are you talking about a color variation of a marmot or an uncatalogued lichen or an 8 foot primate that hasn't the sense to use tools, fires, shelter or clothing, and hasn't been found, killed/hauled in/photographed in 400 years of determined human exploiters/hunters/killers/explorers/scientists/hikers/game wardens/naturalists/photographers/loggers/drillers/fossil hunters/roads/vehicles not to mention disease, natural death, predators, accidents, intraspecies competition/stuggles, grizzlies, forest fires, volcanoes, landslides, avalanches, exposure, drowning, heatstroke, hives, lice, dysentery, measles, smallpox, malaria, typhoid fever, valley fever, Lyme disease, scrub typhus, tuberculosis, meningococcus, influenza, streptococcus, staphylococcus, parasites, ringworm, scabies, cancer, heart disease, birth defects, and boating accidents, in this continent?

Because if you are suggesting that the latter, the 8 foot primate, is still "waiting", then you need to recalibrate your probability meter, not to mention replacing your critical thinking fuse.

of course, that's just my opinion. I realize that certain entrepreneurs, liars, hallucinators, substance abusers, attention seekers, 8 year olds and others may disagree.
 
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Jodie said:
There are plenty of things out there in the forests and the oceans waiting to be discovered.

I imagine that how a shark's brain works is of no comparison for how a primate's brain functions, assuming bigfoot is a primate, even if you only wanted to consider it hypothetically.

Do you go about capturing a land based mammal, say a squirrel for example, in the same way you reel in a bass?
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Classic kop-out, its like no'one can even question the lack of Bigfoot evidence anymore, Bigfoot just seems to keep defying odds with his amazing "Bear Grylls" style "forest-smarts," haha.

So, am I to take it that Bigfoot has not yet been captured because "he's too clever?"

Jesus wept.
 
Jodie said:
There are plenty of things out there in the forests and the oceans waiting to be discovered.

I imagine that how a shark's brain works is of no comparison for how a primate's brain functions, assuming bigfoot is a primate, even if you only wanted to consider it hypothetically.

Do you go about capturing a land based mammal, say a squirrel for example, in the same way you reel in a bass?
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I think I could use a fishing rod to reel in a squirrel, and a trap to catch a bass.
 
600 Ohio bigfoot believers congregate in one place over the weekend to discuss the characteristics of a non-existent creature. The rest of Ohio suddenly experiences a spike in productivity over the weekend, which reverts to normal on Monday.
 
Here's what I find interesting, and in support of my previous comment. There is a "Bigfoot Sightings" kmz that you can download for Google Earth. It has a time slider that allows you to view reported sightings versus the date of said sightings. If you slide the end slider to 1965, you see some sightings sprinkled here and there, some clustered in Canada, some in the Pacific Northwest, smattering in the east. Now if you move the start slider to 1965 and the end slider to 2011, you see a huge increase of supposed sightings. You can draw two, or maybe three, conclusions. Conclusion One: The Sasquatch population "exploded" after 1965. Conclusion Two: The human ingress into Sasquatch territory "exploded" after 1965. Conclusion Three: After the PGF, a lot more people all of a sudden started "seeing" Bigfoot. I am leaning towards Conclusion Three given the theory of coincidence, and human ability to suddently see things that previously didn't exist or to take things that would have been a bear, a tree stump, etc. prior to the PGF publicity and extrapolate Bigfoot.
 
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parnassus said:
600 Ohio bigfoot believers congregate in one place over the weekend to discuss the characteristics of a non-existent creature. The rest of Ohio suddenly experiences a spike in productivity over the weekend, which reverts to normal on Monday.
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All the times i've visited Ohio and i've never met one Bigfoot believer among them, haha. I'll be there in July and I doubt things will have changed much.

I wonder if there's any sermons being preached about Bigfoot in July, I wouldn't mind going, is there a free bar?
 
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Given the physical size of the supposed primate and the population estimates by Meldrum and BFRO, I would say the probability of finding a large primate exceed those of finding a rare shark. New primates are discovered all the time in areas with an archeological and zoological record of such animals in that area. Neither of those exist in North America. There is no archeological evidence of a native large primate in North America, other than man. There is no zoological evidence of a large primate in North America outside of feral pets released into the wild. Frankly, prior to 1965, there isn't even annecdotal evidence of a large primate in North America (and the supposed indian legends don't count, as most are not related to "Bigfoot"). So, there may be many unknown species in forests and oceans wating to be discovered, unfortunately, Bigfoot is not one of them. One thing to note, there was physical evidence of the Glyphis shark before Jeremey Wade hooked and landed one. To date, there is nothing supporting the existence of Bigfoot beyond blurry photos, now debunked film, and likely hoaxed footprints.
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That's assuming Dr. Meldrum is correct in his estimate, I don't know that he is, that's why it's called an estimate. All breeds of sharks are not everywhere in the ocean.

There are numerous reasons why you might not find skeletal remains in North America. I'm sure it has been thoroughly dissected here numerous times.The fact that the bones haven't been found isn't damning evidence for non existence either now or historically.

You are not aware of all of the anecdotal evidence prior to 1965. Even if you were, accepting it is strictly up to you. I don't disagree with you on the quality of the vast majority of circumstantial evidence produced thus far for bigfoot but I don't think all of the evidence is faked or misidentified. As for the PGF, it's not thoroughly debunked for everyone, that's simply your opinion.
 
Jodie said:
There are numerous reasons why you might not find skeletal remains in North America. I'm sure it has been thoroughly dissected here numerous times.The fact that the bones haven't been found isn't damning evidence for non existence either now or historically.
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You know what IS damning evidence? Forget about the fossil bones, or dead carcasses rotting in the woods, the fact that one hasn't been sent cartwheeling end-end-over-end by a Peterbilt, into a bridge abutment. EVER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5AqupZY2aE&feature=related
 
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parnassus said:
Are you talking about a color variation of a marmot or an uncatalogued lichen or an 8 foot primate that hasn't the sense to use tools, fires, shelter or clothing, and hasn't been found, killed/hauled in/photographed in 400 years of determined human exploiters/hunters/killers/explorers/scientists/hikers/game wardens/naturalists/photographers/loggers/drillers/fossil hunters/roads/vehicles not to mention disease, natural death, predators, accidents, intraspecies competition/stuggles, grizzlies, forest fires, volcanoes, landslides, avalanches, exposure, drowning, heatstroke, hives, lice, dysentery, measles, smallpox, malaria, typhoid fever, valley fever, Lyme disease, scrub typhus, tuberculosis, meningococcus, influenza, streptococcus, staphylococcus, parasites, ringworm, scabies, cancer, heart disease, birth defects, and boating accidents, in this continent?

Because if you are suggesting that the latter, the 8 foot primate, is still "waiting", then you need to recalibrate your probability meter, not to mention replacing your critical thinking fuse.

of course, that's just my opinion. I realize that certain entrepreneurs, liars, hallucinators, substance abusers, attention seekers, 8 year olds and others may disagree.
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That you know about Parn, big difference.

Anything regarding bigfoot is questionable at this time but probability meters vary depending on how far up one's rear end it happens to be lodged. Neither cynicism or gullibility are indicators of having good critical thinking skills.

All things considered, this is coming from someone who went to a bigfoot conference undercover who utterly disdains the possibility that the creature exists....critically speaking, I don't think that's anything I would brag about.

All of this is just my opinion, and I also realize that some people with organic brain syndrome, personality disorders, or SOB's tendencies of all varieties might also disagree with me. Not that anyone would ever accuse you of being any of those things, of course. :)
 
Drewbot said:
You know what IS damning evidence? Forget about the fossil bones, or dead carcasses rotting in the woods, the fact that one hasn't been sent cartwheeling end-end-over-end by a Peterbilt, into a bridge abutment. EVER.
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Now that I agree with. LOLOL
 
Jodie said:
That's assuming Dr. Meldrum is correct in his estimate, I don't know that he is, that's why it's called an estimate. All breeds of sharks are not everywhere in the ocean.

There are numerous reasons why you might not find skeletal remains in North America. I'm sure it has been thoroughly dissected here numerous times.The fact that the bones haven't been found isn't damning evidence for non existence either now or historically.

You are not aware of all of the anecdotal evidence prior to 1965. Even if you were, accepting it is strictly up to you. I don't disagree with you on the quality of the vast majority of circumstantial evidence produced thus far for bigfoot but I don't think all of the evidence is faked or misidentified. As for the PGF, it's not thoroughly debunked for everyone, that's simply your opinion.
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oh, well, since they are so numerous, why don't you tell us these numerous reasons? just six or so, not to burden you...and I guess the Green River killer should have gone undetected. And all those fossils that are found in the PNW shouldn't have been found either. And the dead animals found by Fish and Game officials. They shouldn't be finding them. And the road kills. Nothing destroys bodies like gravel and guard rails. Not to mention the fact that bigfoot is reported all over North America, in the distribution of black bears, whose bodies do turn up with regularity. Long story short, baloney, illogical, and uncritical.

I think we are quite aware of the anecdotal stories before 1965. Boogeymen and snipe hunts have a long tradition among parents/children, campers, frat boys, military, loggers, and anyone else who is young, intoxicated, bored, sadistic or attention seeking. You might want to read the books by David Paulides, who sees the native American folklore as describing human beings/invaders/neighboring tribes, etc.

For the best explanation of the bigfoot phenomenon, I would suggest to you that you review your videos of the show "finding bigfoot" and notice all the little kids lining up to say they saw bigfoot. Capeche?

The PGF...ha ha...yes, there are believers, of course there are; there are people who believe the moonlanding was faked, that the earth isn't getting warmer, that cigarettes don't kill people, and on and on.
"The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on."

I would say that the chances of a living popular bigfoot are somewhat like the chances of the Pope calling me on my cell in the next three minutes. Can you give an estimate of your idea of the chances?
 
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