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Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

WTC Dust said:
We also busted their asses on the impossibility of a fragile aluminum air-boat smashing through incredibly strong steel beams, but most people aren't skeptical, so they get a win on that one. They convinced most people that "it could happen.
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Yes, for some reason many of those gullible people you allude to are experts in demolition, architecture, ballistics, aircraft and physics. Weird how you know more about those subjects than they do. Very weird.

Second point on security is that, even if four hijackings were to take place successfully,
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Well, only three of the four hijackings were completely "successful" but what was the risk? Before 9/11, SOP was to not be a hero and let the hijackers fly to Cuba or wherever they wanted to go. Once the Flight 93 passengers realized that they weren't part of a typical hijacking they fought back, but again it was a much different world pre-9/11, People who were adults in 2001 understand this quite well. Why don't you?

hitting both WTC buildings isn't a guarantee. There is added risk to using planes compared to using a projected image of a plane + energy weapon. The planes might not meet their intended targets.
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And what is the "risk" if the projector develops a glitch and three seconds before the image is supposed to appear to strike the building? And what happens when this glitch is captured on dozens of cameras for all the world to see live?

What is the "risk" if the energy weapon misfires and nothing happens when the projected plane appears to fly into the building?

Maybe you should ask actual pilots how difficult a piloting maneuver it was to fly jets into two of the largest buildings in history? And so what if they miss? Wouldn't they simply turn around and try again? Even if they accidentally strike some other building or even auger right into 5th Avenue, they've still perpetrated the deadliest, most notorious terrorist attack on US soil. The hijackers had pretty much already "won" once they took over the planes, the only question was just how much damage could they do before they were finished.

And you still haven't provided any evidence that your image projector and energy weapon even exists.

There is a strong likelihood that the planes would fail to impact their intended target and hit the wrong building.
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So?

Plus, you'd still have some planes at the end of the day. Forensic scientists would have pieced the planes together, etc.
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So?

I think I've elaborated at length before about the impossibility of success of a plane crash model, so I won't do it here.
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You really haven't thought all this through very carefully, have you?
 
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WTC Dust said:
Why are you so sure the weapon would drain power from the NY State system?
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They didn't say it necessarily would. They also suggested generators mounted on flat bed trailers, which you ignored. Along with good science in general and all of reality in particular.
 
SUSpilot said:
OK. Show us an unaltered photo of what the disturbance in the air caused by the passage of a 757 at roughly 500 KTAS would look like. Temperature and humidity the same as that of New York City at approximately 1300Z on 9/11/2001, please.
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Wow. You say you're a pilot? First, can you show me evidence that any plane of that nature flew that fast that close to the ground? I don't think you can.
 
I don't know how much you know about the physics of flight, WTC Dust, but there's no reason you can't] fly am airliner at that speed at low altitude*. The engines would easily have the power.


* The biggest problem, as RMackey and others have pointed out in a previous thread, would be the dynamic pressure. At high speeds and low altitudes, it could damage the skin of the aircraft. But I'm pretty sure the hijackers weren't concerned about that...



ETA: After a quick search, here's a couple threads on the topic

Can planes fly at 500+ mph 1000 ft altitude?
Pilots for 911 truth analysis on speed and plausibility

In particular, see this post, this website, this post and this post.

There are more. Use the search function.
 
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WTC Dust said:
Wow. You say you're a pilot? First, can you show me evidence that any plane of that nature flew that fast that close to the ground? I don't think you can.
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I can. AA flight #77; UA flight #175; AA flight #11.

All their crews and passengers died. Try and respect these people. Acknowledge their passing.

Thanks.
 
I like the intro to her website.

''We stand today at the dawn of an entirely new age. Man has in his hands a method of disrupting the molecular basis for matter and the ability to split the earth in half on a moments notice. (It gives the term, "scortched-earth policy" a new significance.) The technology that was demonstrated on 911 can split the earth in half or it can be used to allow ALL people to live happily ever after with free energy.

However, he who controls the energy, controls the people. Control of energy leads to destruction of the planet.

But we have a choice. And this choice is real. Live happily ever after or destroy the planet. This is why I have been studying the evidence of what happened on 9/11. This evidence is central to it all. 9/11 was a demonstration of a new technology; free energy. It can be used for good, but we need to make that choice and help others to as well.

We have a choice. ''

Oh dear. And to think that there are people who believe that she is a genius.
 
dafydd said:
I like the intro to her website.

''We stand today at the dawn of an entirely new age. Man has in his hands a method of disrupting the molecular basis for matter and the ability to split the earth in half on a moments notice. (It gives the term, "scortched-earth policy" a new significance.) The technology that was demonstrated on 911 can split the earth in half or it can be used to allow ALL people to live happily ever after with free energy.

However, he who controls the energy, controls the people. Control of energy leads to destruction of the planet.

But we have a choice. And this choice is real. Live happily ever after or destroy the planet. This is why I have been studying the evidence of what happened on 9/11. This evidence is central to it all. 9/11 was a demonstration of a new technology; free energy. It can be used for good, but we need to make that choice and help others to as well.

We have a choice. ''

Oh dear. And to think that there are people who believe that she is a genius.
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That reads like a children's story.
 
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