The Incredible odds of fulfilled bible prophecy

[Akhenaten]

To be fair, the castle there is half-dead.

It wouldn't have been if you hadn't looked at it.

 

[DOC]

Tyre survived a 13-year siege by Nebuchadnezzar

I guess that's why they accepted the authority of Nebuchadnezzar. You get to survive and suffer no more damage from him. And it's logical to assume that a guy that can destroy Jerusalem could do some serious damage in 13 years on Tyre.

From Wiki on Nebu.

After the destruction of Jerusalem, Nebuchadnezzar engaged in a thirteen year siege of Tyre (585–572 BC), which ended in a compromise, with the Tyrians accepting Babylonian authority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebuchadnezzar_II

In my book if you accept the authority of an invading army, you lost, and your nation as you knew it is no more, no matter what name you give it.

 

[dafydd]

I guess that's why they accepted the authority of Nebuchadnezzar. You get to survive and suffer no more damage from him. And it's logical to assume that a guy that can destroy Jerusalem could do some serious damage in 13 years on Tyre.

From Wiki on Nebu.

After the destruction of Jerusalem, Nebuchadnezzar engaged in a thirteen year siege of Tyre (585–572 BC), which ended in a compromise, with the Tyrians accepting Babylonian authority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebuchadnezzar_II

In my book if you accept the authority of an invading army, you lost, and your nation as you knew it is no more, no matter what name you give it.

So you agree that the prophecy has not been fulfilled.

 

[Akhenaten]

Tyre survived a 13-year siege by Nebuchadnezzar

I guess that's why they accepted the authority of Nebuchadnezzar. You get to survive and suffer no more damage from him.

From Wiki on Nebu.

After the destruction of Jerusalem, Nebuchadnezzar engaged in a thirteen year siege of Tyre (585–572 BC), which ended in a compromise, with the Tyrians accepting Babylonian authority.

And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon;
thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.​

A whole heap of these things are not like the other things.

In my book if you accept the authority of an invading army, you lost, and your nation as you knew it is no more.

It matters not one jot or tittle what your book says. What we're discussing here is the prophecy of Ezekiel which says that the city will physically cease to exist.

 

[DOC]

So you agree that the prophecy has not been fulfilled.

No, because a nation that is no more can not be rebuilt (because it doesn't exist), only it's memory exists.

See post 2702

 

[Akhenaten]

No, because a nation that is no more can not be rebuilt (because it doesn't exist), only it's memory exists.

It didn't cease to exist.

Acts 12:20

And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon: but they came with one accord to him, and, having made Blastus the king's chamberlain their friend, desired peace; because their country was nourished by the king's country.​

​

And apart from this reference in your own Big Book of Fairytales, what do you think it was that Alexander attacked in 332 BCE? A memory?

See post 2702

Since both dafydd and myself have just replied to it then it's pretty bloody obvious that we saw it.

And it's utter drivel.

Quelle surprise.

 

[ddt]

No, because a nation that is no more can not be rebuilt (because it doesn't exist), only it's memory exists.

See post 2702

So I guess the nations of Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg ceased to exist and couldn't be rebuilt after May 1940? The state I live in is only a memory? You've got a pretty strange logic there.

ETA: and let's not even start about Poland.

 

[dafydd]

No, because a nation that is no more can not be rebuilt (because it doesn't exist), only it's memory exists.

See post 2702

See the prophecy. It mentions Tyre, not a nation. You can't wriggle out of it, the prophecy failed, just as the prophecy about uncircumcised men in Jerusalem has failed, just as Jesus's promise to come back during the lifetime of his listeners has failed, just as all bible prophecies have failed. I understand why you won't admit this, but your prevarications are fooling nobody.

 

[Akhenaten]

So I guess the nations of Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg ceased to exist and couldn't be rebuilt after May 1940? The state I live in is only a memory? You've got a pretty strange logic there.

ETA: and let's not even start about Poland.

Apparently there's a great big gap between Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon with nothing in it as well.

 

[RoboTimbo]

No, because a nation that is no more can not be rebuilt (because it doesn't exist), only it's memory exists.

See post 2702

DOC, was the prophecy about Tyre fulfilled? YES or NO?

 

[ddt]

I guess that's why they accepted the authority of Nebuchadnezzar. You get to survive and suffer no more damage from him. And it's logical to assume that a guy that can destroy Jerusalem could do some serious damage in 13 years on Tyre.

From Wiki on Nebu.

After the destruction of Jerusalem, Nebuchadnezzar engaged in a thirteen year siege of Tyre (585–572 BC), which ended in a compromise, with the Tyrians accepting Babylonian authority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebuchadnezzar_II

In my book if you accept the authority of an invading army, you lost, and your nation as you knew it is no more, no matter what name you give it.

Actually, Tyre only accepted Nebuchadnezzar's overlordship, but they continued to have their own kings: Ithabaal III was succeeded by his son Baal II. There's a continuous line of Tyrian kings.

Or does, in your mind, Prussia also only start to exist as a state with the dissolution of the HRE in 1804? Der alte Fritz might have a word with you.

 

[ddt]

I see my higher power as being within. In other words a voice in my head that says, "No! Don't take the DOC-bait! No, don't take it, really! No, don't -- oh hell, too late!"

Pointless good times are the bestest good times.

Not quite pointless. What is the score of conversions because of DOC-threads?

 

[DOC]

Actually, Tyre only accepted Nebuchadnezzar's overlordship, but they continued to have their own kings:.

And Japan still has an emperor.

 

[RoboTimbo]

And Japan still has an emperor.

I guess your dishonesty is keepng you from answering. Tyre: YES or NO?

Does Japan exist?

 

[DOC]

DOC, was the prophecy about Tyre fulfilled? YES or NO?

I would have to say yes. And I think it was highly detailed with the fish net part.

 

[RoboTimbo]

I would have to say yes. And I think it was highly detailed with the fish net part.

So you don't think Tyre exists any longer? How about Japan?

 

[Akhenaten]

And Japan still has an emperor.

How is that possible? Didn't he surrender to the Allies in 1945? Surely Japan is now a bare rock with fishing nets lying all over it?

 

[Akhenaten]

DOC, was the prophecy about Tyre fulfilled? YES or NO?

I would have to say yes. And I think it was highly detailed with the fish net part.

What about the "thou shalt be built no more" part?

 

[ddt]

And Japan still has an emperor.

Another case in point. Didn't Japan surrender in August 1945 and thus, in your logic, cease to exist? It was occupied by the Allies and ruled by MacArthur, not by the never-convicted war criminal Emperor Hirohito.

 

[Akhenaten]

DOC, was the prophecy about Tyre fulfilled? YES or NO?

I would have to say yes. And I think it was highly detailed with the fish net part.

What fish net part is that, DOC?

Please quote the verse that mentions fish nets.


No wonder you think this crap is highly detailed. You're adding the details yourself.