Richard Gage Blueprint for Truth Rebuttals on YouTube by Chris Mohr

[beachnut]

Look, bottom line: femr2 did a detailed analysis that dovetails with NIST's conclusions on important points, and you seem every bit as ticked as if he(?) had written a nonsensical defense of Chandler. I'm happy to disagree with femr2 about all the things that we actually disagree about, but I don't see a reason to haul them into this thread -- even if I kept a file, which I don't.

Don't use dovetail, Major Tom gets upset.
I have no problem with videos on youtube, many videos labeled "WTC Demolition". It is so people can find them, because most idiots do believe the WTC was a demolition. I think calling a gravity collapse the "WTC Demolition is the right thing to do. It is the moral thing to do, be as neutral as you can be, call it a Demolition. Sounds good to me. I wonder what helped McVeigh decide to kill kids in OKC, the best people in the world, they most likely helped him find a parking space.

Never did like people who mislead people due to ignorance on both sides. Being neutral on 911, and calling your videos, "WTC Demolitions", same as falsely yelling fire in a crowded theater. Are there still two Flight 175s running around? Don't need to keep a file to escape NAZI Germany like Einstein did.

At least he has one thing right http://femr2.ucoz.com/forum/12-11-1

 

[carlitos]

At least he has one thing right http://femr2.ucoz.com/forum/12-11-1

Heh. Comment #4.

I don't like his quotation marks around the flight numbers - Why is it "Flight 11" and not just plain old Flight 11?

 

[tmd2_1]

Actually, those of you who are "truthers" should try to avoid this type of thing. Right here. This.

I am not 100% what you are referring to. If you are suggesting that WTC 7 was rigged and the towers not, that is simply absurd. Though it would not surprise me on this forum. You probably are trying to say that "truthers" should avoid just watching the video and making conclusions. Well believe what you want, as I said anyone I've simply showed this video to, wanted to know why I was showing them a demolition. It also took me a while to convince them of what it really was. Everyone knows something is wrong, very few will admit it.

 

[beachnut]

Heh. Comment #4.

I don't like his quotation marks around the flight numbers - Why is it "Flight 11" and not just plain old Flight 11?

the only thing he got right, is beachnut is a %$#@

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[DGM]

You probably are trying to say that "truthers" should avoid just watching the video and making conclusions. Well believe what you want, as I said anyone I've simply showed this video to, wanted to know why I was showing them a demolition. It also took me a while to convince them of what it really was. Everyone knows something is wrong, very few will admit it.

Are you anti-education? You know, knowledge you are not born with. You seem to suggest that going with a "gut feeling" is better than actual knowledge of an event.

 

[tmd2_1]

How do your natural instincts explain no explosions when you see it collapse? How many skyscrapers collapsing due to fire have your natural instincts seen for comparison?

What if your "Natural Instincts" are wrong? Or do you have some superpower all us mere mortals do not possess?

First of all I was referring to people's instincts AND abilities. Next there were indeed witnesses who heard explosions and you know this.

Lastly, yes that is a good question you ask, how many skyscrapers collapsed due to fire? The answer as far as I know is 0, that should be considered a major problem for the official story. But here it's ok because there is a lack of comparison.

 

[tmd2_1]

Are you anti-education? You know, knowledge you are not born with. You seem to suggest that going with a "gut feeling" is better than actual knowledge of an event.

I'm anti people completely relying on someone else, and not having more faith in themselves.

 

[carlitos]

I'm anti people completely relying on someone else, and not having more faith in themselves.

So when you go on vacation, do you build a plane from scratch and learn to fly it, or do you rely completely on someone else (generations of inventors, scientists, engineers, physicists, part manufacturers and ultimately a pilot normally trained by the military) to get you there?

 

[DGM]

First of all I was referring to people's instincts AND abilities. Next there were indeed witnesses who heard explosions and you know this.

Lastly, yes that is a good question you ask, how many skyscrapers collapsed due to fire? The answer as far as I know is 0, that should be considered a major problem for the official story. But here it's ok because there is a lack of comparison.

Do you believe the Titanic sank after hitting an iceberg? As far as I know, no ship that size ever sank after hitting an iceberg before 1912.

You really don't see how ridiculous this "never before" argument is?

 

[beachnut]

First of all I was referring to people's instincts AND abilities. Next there were indeed witnesses who heard explosions and you know this.

Lastly, yes that is a good question you ask, how many skyscrapers collapsed due to fire? The answer as far as I know is 0, that should be considered a major problem for the official story. But here it's ok because there is a lack of comparison.

Fires not fought, building collapse.
911 is not the first time high-rises were totaled.
The major problem for you is lack of knowledge.

The sounds of explosions are not sounds of explosives. Many sounds of explosions were people hitting the ground. Kind of makes your explosives sounds nonsense. Total

 

[DGM]

I'm anti people completely relying on someone else, and not having more faith in themselves.

Read this to yourself a few times. You make no sense (or you're a hermit, somehow plugged into the internet).

BTW: How did you know what a demolition looked like. Where you born with this? You said it looked like a demolition, explain.

 

[tmd2_1]

So when you go on vacation, do you build a plane from scratch and learn to fly it, or do you rely completely on someone else (generations of inventors, scientists, engineers, physicists, part manufacturers and ultimately a pilot normally trained by the military) to get you there?

You are simply trying to muddy the waters and you know this. Two completely different things. But yes I doubt anyone would get on a plane they don't feel is safe, and in some way shape or form, it was researched.

 

[tmd2_1]

Read this to yourself a few times. You make no sense (or you're a hermit, somehow plugged into the internet).

BTW: How did you know what a demolition looked like. Where you born with this? You said it looked like a demolition, explain.

Right it makes no sense to have faith in yourself.

No I am not explaining why it looked like a demolition, this is just an attempt to have endless posts in this topic. Suffice it to say, we've all seen videos of CD WTC 7 looked just like it. Simple as that.

 

[DGM]

Right it makes no sense to have faith in yourself.

Where did I say it didn't?

No I am not explaining why it looked like a demolition, this is just an attempt to have endless posts in this topic. Suffice it to say, we've all seen videos of CD WTC 7 looked just like. Simple as that.

I didn't ask you to. Have you been to a CD in person?

 

[tmd2_1]

Where did I say it didn't?


I didn't ask you to. Have you been to a CD in person?

Enough of this. You said what I wrote made no sense, I wrote people should have faith in themselves. You asked me to explain demolition. You are simply trying to add more posts.

 

[DGM]

Enough of this. You said what I wrote made no sense, I wrote people should have faith in themselves. You asked me to explain demolition. You are simply trying to add more posts.

You added, "I'm anti people completely relying on someone else".(the part that made no sense).

I did not ask you to "explain demolition", I said "How did you know what a demolition looked like. Where you born with this? You said it looked like a demolition, explain".

Try reading for comprehension.


Can we start with, Have you been to a CD in person?

 

[tmd2_1]

You added, "I'm anti people completely relying on someone else".(the part that made no sense).

I did not ask you to "explain demolition", I said "How did you know what a demolition looked like. Where you born with this? You said it looked like a demolition, explain".

Try reading for comprehension.


Can we start with, Have you been to a CD in person?

No we can't start there. I responded to all your questions, if you have something useful to say, I will respond, otherwise I will not.

 

[DGM]

No we can't start there. I responded to all your questions, if you have something useful to say, I will respond, otherwise I will not.

Why is my question a problem for you? I've been to 3 CD's myself. I go with a friend that's deaf, (she's been to many more than I). She goes because it's one of the few things she can "hear". Why do you think this is?

I go with her because I love the expression on her face. She called me the other day. As soon as I get the details, I'm going to my fourth.

 

[MarkLindeman]

You probably are trying to say that "truthers" should avoid just watching the video and making conclusions.

"Making conclusions"?

As I read your previous post: You jumped to a conclusion, you're trying to coach other people that they shouldn't even acknowledge the possibility that there is any alternative, that is your story and you're sticking to it....

Everyone knows something is wrong, very few will admit it.

I think that is an irreducibly nasty thing to say. And that's why I think you shouldn't.

 

[DGM]

if you have something useful to say, I will respond, otherwise I will not.

Would you like to define what you consider to be "useful"?

I'm just going to say that, putting your fingers in your ears and only addressing the arguements you like is why the "truth movement" is where it is today *.


If it's not too much trouble.


* After further thought. there would be no "truth movement" if they actually addressed questions posed to them. Does this mean (as an "organisation") they're better off being ignorant?