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The Incredible odds of fulfilled bible prophecy

DOC said:
Well actually the apostles didn't need any faith, because according to the bible they actually saw the resurrected Christ.

But Christ said to "doubting Thomas" blessed are they that believe having not seen.
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Only in John. The story is nonsense. Never believe without evidence.

And then he went to Galilee and again the disciples failed at first to recognise him. In Matthew 28:17 they don't recognise him. Elsewhere, Mary Magdalene mistakes him for a gardener! Two disciples walk with him to Emmaus, and don't recognise him, even though they have a conversation. So they obviously needed faith, and didn't have enough or, more probably, all the alleged appearances are fictions arising from delusions. The earliest gospel doesn't trouble to mention any posthumous acts of Jesus, its account being interpolated, by the common consent of scholars.
 
Ah, so christians had MUCH to gain by going against the roman empire then.
Not only did they think they were going to heaven, but they *knew* it.

In fact, one might even suggest that they would have gone out of their way to get martyred to get that extra express ticket to heavenville.

But that doenst actually prove any prophecy coming true. What about Ankenathens question about that prophecy you claim came true, yet the bible claims was false? Does the bible lie, or are you wrong?
 
DOC said:
Well actually the apostles didn't need any faith, because according to the bible they actually saw the resurrected Christ.

But Christ said to "doubting Thomas" blessed are they that believe having not seen.
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And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon;
thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.​
 
DOC said:
Well actually the apostles didn't need any faith, because according to the bible they actually saw the resurrected Christ.

But Christ said to "doubting Thomas" blessed are they that believe having not seen.
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Ezekiel 26:14
And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon; thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.​


Acts 12:20

And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon: but they came with one accord to him, and, having made Blastus the king's chamberlain their friend, desired peace; because their country was nourished by the king's country.​
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Any word on this discrepancy yet, DOC?
 
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DOC said:
Is that the Tyre one I've already commented on many times?
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Commented yes, answered no. The prophecy has failed and you refuse to admit it.

Ezekiel 26:14

And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon; thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

Or you could go with this

Acts 12:20

And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon: but they came with one accord to him, and, having made Blastus the king's chamberlain their friend, desired peace; because their country was nourished by the king's country.

Which bit of the bible are you going to cherry-pick here?
 
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Craig B said:
...And then he went to Galilee and again the disciples failed at first to recognise him. In Matthew 28:17 they don't recognise him. Elsewhere, Mary Magdalene mistakes him...
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These are verses that are good examples of things that would not be made up by a story teller inventing a story about the risen Messiah.

Translation: they weren't made up.

Christ could have had his glorified body which might have been somewhat different than his normal appearance and certainly different than the last few days of his life when he was under great stress.

Even people like John Lennon seemed to have a different look every time you saw them.
 
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DOC said:
Is that the Tyre one I've already commented on many times?
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Ah, so you admit you are wrong then, since all your comments are clearly handwaving away the obvious truth.

you've used the same type of comments to "prove" the rest of the prophecies, so I'm forced to conclude even you know none of the prophecies actually came true, but since you *want* them to be true you are willing to take fantasy over reality.

Of course you do realize that that is not exactly a ringing endorsement right?
 
DOC said:
These are verses that are good examples of things that would not be made up by a story teller inventing a story about the risen Messiah.

Translation: they weren't made up.

Christ could have had his glorified body which might have been somewhat different then his normal appearance. Even people like John Lennon seemed to have a different look every time you saw them.
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Tyre?​
 
DOC said:
These are verses that are good examples of things that would not be made up by a story teller inventing a story about the risen Messiah.

Translation: they weren't made up.

Christ could have had his glorified body which might have been somewhat different than his normal appearance and certainly different then the last few days of his life when he was under great stress.

And even people like John Lennon seemed to have a different look every time you saw them.
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Gentiles in Jerusalem?​
 
DOC said:
These are verses that are good examples of things that would not be made up by a story teller inventing a story about the risen Messiah.

Translation: they weren't made up.

Christ could have had his glorified body which might have been somewhat different than his normal appearance and certainly different then the last few days of his life when he was under great stress.

And even people like John Lennon seemed to have a different look every time you saw them.
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Evidence of Nebuchadnezzar in Egypt? ​
 
DOC said:
These are verses that are good examples of things that would not be made up by a story teller inventing a story about the risen Messiah.

Translation: they weren't made up.

Christ could have had his glorified body which might have been somewhat different than his normal appearance and certainly different than the last few days of his life when he was under great stress.

Even people like John Lennon seemed to have a different look every time you saw them.
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Actually that is exactly like a story that is made up. Perhaps the only book you've ever read is the bible, in which case, I'd say read any novel containing any form of suspense and lo and behold, there are moments when the people in the story do not know something right at the start, while the readers often do. Building anticipation and all that.
So all this proves that whoever wrote the gospels had some clue how to make a story interesting for an audience, techniques which had been perfected millennia beforehand.
 
You must have been looking at a different John Lennon; a change of hairstyle from time to time and even wearing different (or no) glasses never made him unrecognisable to the public, let alone people who knew him well. That has to be one of the most flimsy excuses I've ever seen you make.

Please post links to your posts where you have commented on the Tyre prophecy. As you are unable to see Akhenaten's posts (surely there can be no other explanation for you to ask which prophecy is meant), I have kindly reproduced the salient points of one of his posts here for you.

TyreBeach.jpg


Ezekiel 26:14

And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon; thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.


Acts 12:20

And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon: but they came with one accord to him, and, having made Blastus the king's chamberlain their friend, desired peace; because their country was nourished by the king's country.

Does the photograph look to you like a place which is "like the top of a rock, .. a place to spread nets upon... [a place which is] built no more" If it does not, then the prophecy in Ezekiel is flat out wrong. Failed.

And the Bible (infallible, according to many of your fellow Christians) admits in Acts that the prophecy failed. So is Ezekiel wrong, or is Acts wrong? Which is it?
 
DOC said:
You're spamming, we've already spent many posts on Tyre forty or so pages ago.
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Post a link to where you addressed this:

Akhenaten said:
Ezekiel 26:14
And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon; thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.​


Acts 12:20

And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon: but they came with one accord to him, and, having made Blastus the king's chamberlain their friend, desired peace; because their country was nourished by the king's country.​
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Any word on this discrepancy yet, DOC?
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DOC said:
Already been given, read the thread.
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I am far more familiar with the contents of the thread than you are.

And even if I wasn't, I know how to use the search function.


Now, post the links to the posts in which you provided evidence of Nebuchadnezzar conquering and invading Egypt.
 
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