Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

[minnemouse]

I've been to Dachau, and it didn't smell like dead human beings. I know the smell of dead human beings.

I will admit I dont know about Dachau, but Auschwitz/Birkenau, Theresienstadt, Ravensbrück and Sachsenhausen, CERTAINLY smells like death. I worked as an assistant guide (most guides where survivors) for a couple of seasons for something called "the white buses". However; I do think that Dachau is pretty similar; but you dont know the difference between **** and cinnamon, although you think you do. I dont only mean your sense of smell, but also your sense of "facts". Wood`s claims is "****"; facts/evidence/witnesses/physics/etc is "cinnamon". Same colour; but the first (most) folks will shy away from; the next is a nice spice. Get it; DUST?

 

[minnemouse]

Magic!

Huh? Not magic dust or magic foam??


On a serious note; if I`d never read any twooferdom before, I would have thought that the DUST was a provocateur - someone pulling one`s leg or even a joker making us all laugh! The sad truth is that DUST is just....DUST. In every sense -but especially in the Norwegian sense of the word. Wow.

 

[minnemouse]

No...she is "attention seeking" by saying crap that she knows we will respond to.

Case in point...her sign that read "Ronald Reagan sucked balls!"
[qimg]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46946106/TracyBelvins.jpg[/qimg]

Ronald Reagan has been dead for years...and hasn't been in office in 30 years.... But many republicans and right wingers hold him in high regard. By holding up a sign that insulted the right wing icon....she knew she would get press coverage. Which she did. Classic attention whore behavior.

Perhaps the change in presidency is hard to notice if one is as high as a kite at all times?

 

[MIKILLINI]

I will admit I dont know about Dachau, but Auschwitz/Birkenau, Theresienstadt, Ravensbrück and Sachsenhausen, CERTAINLY smells like death. I worked as an assistant guide (most guides where survivors) for a couple of seasons for something called "the white buses". However; I do think that Dachau is pretty similar; but you dont know the difference between **** and cinnamon, although you think you do. I dont only mean your sense of smell, but also your sense of "facts". Wood`s claims is "****"; facts/evidence/witnesses/physics/etc is "cinnamon". Same colour; but the first (most) folks will shy away from; the next is a nice spice. Get it; DUST?

She won't acknowledge **** about these facts, except to disqualify(Hand wave) your experiences because you haven't been to Dachau.

 

[minnemouse]

She won't acknowledge **** about these facts, except to disqualify(Hand wave) your experiences because you haven't been to Dachau.

I know, Mikillini.... I wont wave my hand, but it is VERY hard not to shake my head in disbelief when reading this DUST` argumentation.........

But fair is fair; comic relief is pretty good for one`s health!

 

[WTC Dust]

WTCDust, Dr Blevins, whatever you want to be called...What do you think a taser is?

A taser is a weapon that uses electromagnetic energy.

 

[WTC Dust]

Considering the towers were some 60 stories taller than the average office building...then I would say yes...there was more plastic items in the towers compared to other office buildings.

The size of a fire doesn't determine the smell.

 

[WTC Dust]

What the heck does carbon have to do with anything? How is carpet "made of carbon"? Carpet is made from manmade fibers like polypropylene, nylon or polyester. Computer cases are made from ABS plastic (Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene) How are those "made of carbon"?

All of the mentioned materials in your post are made of carbon.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

A taser is a weapon that uses electromagnetic energy.

How does it use it?

Is it a DEW?

 

[WTC Dust]

"Summarize" probably isn't the exact word. As I noted in my posts, at least equally important are the facts that (1) there is zero evidence that a DEW of the type Dr. Wood proposes exists, thus there is no reason at all to believe that it does; and (2) there are very serious technical and scientific problems that in all likelihood render "directed free energy technology" impossible.

Your (1) above isn't true and you didn't mention what the technical problems are in (2). Is it just Mackey's assertion of the positioning of the weapon that counts for (2), or is it something more?

 

[MarkCorrigan]

So show us the evidence for the DEW. You say it's absolutely there, so you must know what it is.

 

[WTC Dust]

That's overly simplistic. Our debunking would be as follows:
1) There is no need of that hypothesis to explain what was observed.

Wrong. Airplane crashes don't do that to steel buildings.

2) Accepting the DEW hypothesis requires ignoring/denying much of the observed evidence.

I'm not ignoring any evidence. I'm discounting some evidence because it isn't independently verifiable, sure, but all good scientists do this.

3) There is none of the evidence that a DEW could be expected to leave behind.


Like what evidence, specifically?


4) There is no description of what the supposed DEW is, how it works or where it was located.

True. Especially the "where it was located" part.

5) There is no known directed energy device capable of creating the damage seen on 9/11.

False. It's just not known to everyone.

6) There are severe physical limitations on energy weaponry that render such a device impossible.

Like which ones? Tell me it's more than Mackey's positioning argument.


The hypothesis fails on several fronts. Occam's razor, evidence, physics and the necessity of denying reality all show DEW to be the wrong hypothesis. An insane hypothesis. A hypothesis only followed by those with mental problems, a severe lack of scientific understanding or an agenda.

Responses in red.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

A taser is a weapon that uses electromagnetic energy.

No. It isn't really.

It uses electrical energy.

 

[WTC Dust]

Perhaps, and it certainly would be nice to give Dr. Wood the benefit of the doubt. However, I suspect that, given her other ideas and misconceptions, "free energy" in this case is being used in the pseudoscientific sense. In which case I'd say, what a misuse of technology -- if we had free energy, we could use it generate our own power forever and end our reliance on imported petroleum. Thus we wouldn't need false-flag operations like faking 9/11!

Interesting. Which other "misconceptions" are you thinking of here?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

All of the mentioned materials in your post are made of carbon.

By the same logic they are also made of hydrogen. What's your point?

 

[WTC Dust]

Congratulations, you've acknowledged fuel sources available for a smoldering fire to consume.
Carbon based smell sample test: Burn a piece of paper, then burn a piece of plastic, then burn some synthetic carpet. Do they all smell alike? Or different?

But they are all undoubtedly made of carbon.

 

[WTC Dust]

No...she is "attention seeking" by saying crap that she knows we will respond to.

Case in point...her sign that read "Ronald Reagan sucked balls!"
[qimg]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46946106/TracyBelvins.jpg[/qimg]

Ronald Reagan has been dead for years...and hasn't been in office in 30 years.... But many republicans and right wingers hold him in high regard. By holding up a sign that insulted the right wing icon....she knew she would get press coverage. Which she did. Classic attention whore behavior.

Nobody in the press printed these images! I made this sign with the knowledge that it wouldn't get in the press if I said something vulgar about Reagan. Silly boy, got something 100% wrong.

 

[WTC Dust]

I will admit I dont know about Dachau, but Auschwitz/Birkenau, Theresienstadt, Ravensbrück and Sachsenhausen, CERTAINLY smells like death. I worked as an assistant guide (most guides where survivors) for a couple of seasons for something called "the white buses". However; I do think that Dachau is pretty similar; but you dont know the difference between **** and cinnamon, although you think you do. I dont only mean your sense of smell, but also your sense of "facts". Wood`s claims is "****"; facts/evidence/witnesses/physics/etc is "cinnamon". Same colour; but the first (most) folks will shy away from; the next is a nice spice. Get it; DUST?

No, I don't. I have no idea what you're trying to say or why you are following this thread. That I wouldn't recognize the smell of dead human beings? Sorry, but it's not true.

 

[WTC Dust]

How does it use it?

Is it a DEW?

Eh. It fits into the larger category of "energy weapons", but DEW? I'd say yeah, but not with any conviction. There's many weapons out there that use wavelengths of electromagnetic energy. It doesn't shock me to imagine that there is one that I don't already know about. I'm not a weapons expert!

 

[Jack by the hedge]

But they are all undoubtedly made of carbon.

OK. Throw a load of magnesium alloy parts from computers, office furniture and a large airliner into the mix. That isn't carbon. What now?