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General Holocaust Denial Discussion Part II

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Clayton Moore said:
The stupidity and dearth of common sense teeming from the posts of team Holocaust is sad, pathetic, and hilarious.
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Ad hom.

So many testimonies just contradict their intended purpose and that of the testimonies of brutality and onerous behavior against the camp prisoners.

The recent post of the murderous threat if all 700 prisoners were not at a muster? 700 prisoners essentially means they have the freedom to navigate the camp under their own recognizance?
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It's a still a straw man even if you stick a ? on the end, Clay. Being stuck in the camp is, by definition, not on their own recognizance.

Which also means that there are other musters and groups of prisoners roving the camp freely between musters.
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Straw manning on top of your straw man.

So now there are thousands of prisoners going about their business between musters.
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It's not enough. We need to go deeper into the straw men.

And unlike normal human beings the Jewish prisoners don't fester with hate and rage at the atrocities levied at only Jewish babies, children, women, and men.
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You mean normal human beings like the Soviet POWs and the millions of normal people killed in similar circumstances to the Holocaust since, both of which you refuse to address?

I also note how you moved the goalposts from the Jews in general to Jewish prisoners in particular after evidence of Jewish revolts outside the camps was provided. You probably didn't even notice, did you?

And unlike normal people the German camp authorities, staff, and guards, who are aware of non stop atrocities against Jewish people, have no problem/fear of thousands of Jewish people going about their business between musters.
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Your straw man.
 
A note:

"Team Holocaust" did not exist as a term until Greg Gerdes first coined it in a prolonged manic delusive episode he had at the rodoh forum debating Aktion Reinhardt. As if something of such seriousness were a game of baseball. Nearly everyone but one person eventually put him upon ignore as attention-seeking, childish and annoying.
 
Clayton Moore said:
The highlighted is just stupid.
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Bald assertion.

Clayton Moore said:
What? Are you saying Team Holocaust doesn't exist? Like Al Kaeda?
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Al Qaeda exists, Clay. There is no "Team Holocaust". No central NeoCon NWO HQ from which we receive our marching orders. Just a bunch of people independently looking at the same evidence using proven historical analysis techniques and coming to a conclusion you don't like.
 
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Bald assertion.

Al Qaeda exists, Clay. There is no "Team Holocaust". No central NeoCon NWO HQ from which we receive our marching orders. Just a bunch of people independently looking at the same evidence using proven historical analysis techniques and coming to a conclusion you don't like.
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Also I tend to lean to the left politically and so have no affinty with any conservative body that might be pushing the holocasut as myth for some nefarious politcal gain.

And before the deniers jump on the Stalin apologia thing, I am not great fan of the Soviet Union nor Stalin and see it as an evil regieme we are well rid of but I do think Putin is a disaster for freedom in Russia
 
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Originally Posted by Dcdrac View Post
And I see the dneiers old trick of refering to Stalin, yes his regime did evil things too but it does not in any way detract from the Holocaust.
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Nick Terry said:
Actually I was the one who brought up Stalin. Deniers are simply allergic to making proper comparisons as doing so would expose their obvious biases and their antisemitic obsession with Jews.
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Wow. I was sweating that accusation that I mentioned Stalin. I mean how would I identify to Dcdrac that I didn't say something that was never said, never there? Nick saved my bacon.

It's kinda like being asked where 3 or 4 or 6 million went when they arrived at the camps when they never arrived in the first place.

The Holocaust Conundrum, The Original Fool's Errand.

Or was the Original Fool's Errand

The First Holocaust by Don Heddesheimer is a superb book documenting the continuous Zionist attempts at floating out Holocaust propaganda before, during and after World War One. The book proves that the Jews have been promulgating phony persecution stories for at least four decades prior to the commencement of WW2, frequently invoking the magical oft-repeated "6,000,000" number and using the term "Holocaust" (which means 'burnt offering'). Of course, these clever propagandists have since accomplished their goal of establishing the outrageous myth of Jewish Holocaust™ orthodoxy in the public consciousness following the end of WW2. In large part due to fictional Hollywood movies like "Shindler's List" from the lying Zionist worm, Steven Spielberg. Read The First Holocaust online
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http://sixmillionmyth.blogspot.com/p/six-million-myth.html
 
I did not say you did I said its the usual denier trick, and again we see no presenting of any evidence you have found yourself just a quote from a whakco rant.

That is not evidence nor is it an agument
 
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Clayton Moore said:
Originally Posted by Dcdrac View Post






Wow. I was sweating that accusation that I mentioned Stalin. I mean how would I identify to Dcdrac that I didn't say something that was never said, never there? Nick saved my bacon.
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Ironic that Dcdrac never said that you, specifically, mentioned Stalin. He said deniers did. Y'know, like how you keep talking about what "Team Holocaust" said even if no one in the thread made such a statement?
 
Clayton Moore said:
\It's kinda like being asked where 3 or 4 or 6 million went when they arrived at the camps when they never arrived in the first place.

The Holocaust Conundrum, The Original Fool's Errand.

Or was the Original Fool's Errand
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Months ago you and Dogzilla flunked - you guys didn't even offer an answer - the question of where Jews living in 5 places wound up - IIRC Vilna, Warsaw, Lodz, Riga, and Kiev. Really an easy question - as I recall it conjured up all sorts of demographic and other obfuscation. Recently, Dogzilla even tried to imply that I maintained that the extermination actions in Vilna had something to do with the case for gas chambers! Utter waffle, lying, and distraction from your very big problem with this question of the fate of specific groups of Jews. But no answer about the Jews who lived in these 5 places during the early 1940s and where they wound up.

So if, to take the example of the 100s of 1000s of Jews living in Warsaw in 1942 (how many, Clayton?), if they did not arrive at a camp in the first place, where did they "arrive" and what is your evidence for their "arrival" there?
 
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Cm you have no hard evidence at all for your statements.

Everything you have said is little more than hot air.
 
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