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Does Islam belong in Germany?

Childlike Empress said:
We all figured out where you are coming from, friend. You're the first to expect the Spanish Inquisition, but that won't help a bit.
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You think you're really doing something?

It is to laugh.

BTW: with whom are you allying yourself with that big yellow We? I want names.
 
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I don't see why the West should embrace inferior cultures that created the sort of pathetic, failed societies that people are desperate to immigrate from in the first place.
 
Virus said:
I don't see why the West should embrace inferior cultures that created the sort of pathetic, failed societies that people are desperate to immigrate from in the first place.
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You don't see why the West should incorporate failed ideologies? That's probably because you have a lick of sense.

The Zombie Left, OTOH, lacks a lick of sense. Their cunning plan is to so weaken the fabric of Western society as to bring about it's collapse, so that they, the Zombie Left, can seize control. Not entirely unlike the Manson Plan. And not at all unlike the Islamist Plan. Which explains the unholy union of the Zombie Left and the Islamists, which you started a thread about.

Perhaps it seems a bit paranoid to count Childlike Empress and her cohorts among the Zombie Left. But at the least, they should be made aware of their single-minded pursuit of Zombie Left politics.

I'm thinking maybe a reverse inquisition may be in order. After all, more than one can play their little game.

http://www.telospress.com/main/index.php?main_page=news_article&article_id=288
 
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Toontown said:
Nevermind. It would probably be a breach of forum etiquette to answer your question frankly. And if I can't answer frankly, there really is no point in answering at all.

From the online dictionary:

2. Islamism - the monotheistic religious system of Muslims founded in Arabia in the 7th century and based on the teachings of Muhammad as laid down in the Koran; "Islam is a complete way of life, not a Sunday religion"; "the term Muhammadanism is offensive to Muslims who believe that Allah, not Muhammad, founded their religion"

ddt seems to be of the convenient opinion that Turkish Muslims are not generally considered to be followers of The Prophet's actual teachings, thus are not considered "Islamists".

Which begs the questions:

Why do they call themselves Muslims then?

and

Why are those Salafists bothering to distribute Korans, if they don't even follow it's teachings?

Politics, perhaps? Politics, while hoping to crouch behind a shield of bogus ethnic immunity?
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there are many different muslims, just like with other religions.
why are Christians calling themself Christians if they are not following the teachings of Jesus?
 
Virus said:
I don't see why the West should embrace inferior cultures that created the sort of pathetic, failed societies that people are desperate to immigrate from in the first place.
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freedom of religion.
 
Toontown said:
You don't see why the West should incorporate failed ideologies? That's probably because you have a lick of sense.

The Zombie Left, OTOH, lacks a lick of sense. Their cunning plan is to so weaken the fabric of Western society as to bring about it's collapse, so that they, the Zombie Left, can seize control. Not entirely unlike the Manson Plan. And not at all unlike the Islamist Plan. Which explains the unholy union of the Zombie Left and the Islamists, which you started a thread about.

Perhaps it seems a bit paranoid to count Childlike Empress and her cohorts among the Zombie Left. But at the least, they should be made aware of their single-minded pursuit of Zombie Left politics.

I'm thinking maybe a reverse inquisition may be in order. After all, more than one can play their little game.

http://www.telospress.com/main/index.php?main_page=news_article&article_id=288
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zombie Left :dl:
 
Virus said:
I don't see why the West should embrace inferior cultures that created the sort of pathetic, failed societies that people are desperate to immigrate from in the first place.
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Do you even say anything in your posts any more, or have you been completely reduced to being an ELIZA bot regurgitating Niall Ferguson-esque one-liners about your "superior Western culture"?
 
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DC said:
there are many different muslims, just like with other religions.
why are Christians calling themself Christians if they are not following the teachings of Jesus?
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Gosh, I don't know.:confused:

But that wasn't the issue, was it. The issue was whether all Koran-following Muslims are "Islamists" in fact, if not by the variable definitions of agenda-driven internet ideologues.

Wasn't The Prophet an Islamist? Isn't the Koran an Islamist book?
 
Toontown said:
Gosh, I don't know.
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Then maybe you should learn something about the topic before pretending to speak authoritatively about it.

But that wasn't the issue, was it. The issue was whether all Koran-following Muslims are "Islamists" in fact, if not by the variable definitions of agenda-driven internet ideologues.
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No, they're not.

Wasn't The Prophet an Islamist?
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Only in the same way that Jesus was a Dominionist.

Isn't the Koran an Islamist book?
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It's a book used by Islamists, but no, it's not Islamist in itself.
 
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Virus said:
Freedom of strawmen.
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But Virus, all religions have the unalienable right to be incorporated into every country's national identity and culture - don't they?

Because they're religious belief systems, and that makes them special. And besides, how can their practitioners be free unless their belief system is incorporated into every Western country's national identity and culture?

Especially the ones that have totally ruined the countries from which they emanate. Those are the most special ones of all.
 
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ANTPogo said:
Then maybe you should learn something about the topic before pretending to speak authoritatively about it.
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OK, so I need to learn why Christians who don't practice Christianity call themselves Christians, or shut up.

So many rules. You have so many rules...so arbitrarily applied...how will I ever gain the right to criticize a religion?
 
Toontown said:
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt, either.
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And I can lead you to knowledge, but I can't make you think.

Toontown said:
OK, so I need to learn why Christians who don't practice Christianity call themselves Christians, or shut up.
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No, you need to learn what DC's point was. Would you like me to explain it to you?

So many rules. You have so many rules...so arbitrarily applied...how will I ever gain the right to criticize a religion?
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No, there's only one rule: learn about something before you talk about it.

You can start here.
 
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