Feminism and Gender

I did have a question: why didn't any of the resident feminists and gender critics back me up on the prom queen thread?
 
I was making a joke mr cranky britches.Trying to lighten up a prior poopy situation... Even evil old me can look back on things and see the silliness in them. I guess it's back on ignore you go
 
I don't believe I've ever heard anybody use the word "broad" in that way except on television. Old television. Things aired in the 1950s and set in the 1930s. Might as well call them "dames" or "skirts". Or, in even more bizarre usage, "tomatoes". I find it incredible anybody on earth ever used that one, but apparently they did.
 
I think all people, regardless of race or gender, are naturally filled with irrational tribalism and confirmation bias resulting in all kinds of cognitive dissonance that is exhibited in any number of ways. I think it's completely unfair to limit someone's rights based on their sex. Women who markedly identify themselves as feminists usually come off as myopic to me when it becomes their identity. But many women simply claim the word to signify that they feel women should be treated fairly, and I have no qualms with that.
 
I'm certainly not a man-hater, and if you'd care to come over, I'll show you.

It's okay; I've a pink ticket. ;)
 
TragicMonkey said:
I don't believe I've ever heard anybody use the word "broad" in that way except on television. Old television. Things aired in the 1950s and set in the 1930s. Might as well call them "dames" or "skirts". Or, in even more bizarre usage, "tomatoes". I find it incredible anybody on earth ever used that one, but apparently they did.
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I used to be heavy in the Hot Rod and rockabilly scene, and I have a fondness for old movies and so I use as much of the old slang lingo as I can. (but not together like I'm a character in a movie, that would sound silly and weird), no I just mix the words into modern lingo... It's fun. I think sometimes I forget that everybody on here doesn't actually know me.
 
Halfcentaur said:
I think all people, regardless of race or gender, are naturally filled with irrational tribalism and confirmation bias resulting in all kinds of cognitive dissonance that is exhibited in any number of ways. I think it's completely unfair to limit someone's rights based on their sex. Women who markedly identify themselves as feminists usually come off as myopic to me when it becomes their identity. But many women simply claim the word to signify that they feel women should be treated fairly, and I have no qualms with that.
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I think this holds true for most any "cause" and is not limited to feminists. I think that once you stop being an individual and become a radio show/billboard for your cause, you can become a little shortsighted and blinded to the real world going on around you.

It seems to happen a lot when the "cause" is brand new. Like how sometimes new vegans, or new straight edge (don't drink or smoke or do drugs) or new whatever joiners , come out of the gate a bit overly militant as they are so excited about their new life focus. It's understandable, we all get excited, but they can be just amazed that another person doesn't agree with 100% of their new ideals.
 
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TragicMonkey said:
I don't believe I've ever heard anybody use the word "broad" in that way except on television. Old television. Things aired in the 1950s and set in the 1930s. Might as well call them "dames" or "skirts". Or, in even more bizarre usage, "tomatoes". I find it incredible anybody on earth ever used that one, but apparently they did.
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I got called a broad, almost exactly a year ago, by a female. It was insulting and I suspect, meant to be a condescending compliment.
 
mijopaalmc said:
Looks like you need to look up "qua". Black men were traded because they were black not because the were men.
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However, you do need to read up on your history. There are many periods and many regions where men were traded like livestock, and still considered men. Such slaves could earn their freedom, and even become equal members of society in some places and times. They were not enslaved because they were considered less than human, they were enslaved because they were on the losing side of a fight with a stronger adversary, nothing more.

The classic example of this would be Imperial Rome, but that was hardly unusual. During the period of slavery in the West, Africans did not uniformly rise up against the slavers, because slavery was a common practice throughout Africa at the time.
 
This may relate to the topic, perhaps in a peripheral way. Not sure. But in a thread about feminism, it might be helpful to discover our own gender traits...

http://androgyne.0catch.com/gentest1.htm

This is not the first such test I've taken, and the first one was in college, a few years ago.

My score then, as now, is -11, which puts me in the "nearly masculine" category.

I have no clue what that might mean in the context of feminism and gender-specific rights, and so forth...but perhaps it might be found interesting...
 
slingblade said:
This may relate to the topic, perhaps in a peripheral way. Not sure. But in a thread about feminism, it might be helpful to discover our own gender traits...

http://androgyne.0catch.com/gentest1.htm

This is not the first such test I've taken, and the first one was in college, a few years ago.

My score then, as now, is -11, which puts me in the "nearly masculine" category.

I have no clue what that might mean in the context of feminism and gender-specific rights, and so forth...but perhaps it might be found interesting...
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I scored a -8 which puts me in the androgynous category. At first I found that strange. IRL, I'm girly in form, dress and make-up. My mannerism are very feminine, even including placating gestures and non-aggressive body language. I'm comfortable in my female skin (see avatar) and present as what I am - a well-kept cis woman in her 40's.

But I doubt that the people I argue with here think of me like that. Which implies that my brains may be androgynous but my presentation/sense of self is feminine. That seems off. Maybe this is supposed to test for social triggers of gender recognition?
 
Possibly, Boo. From what I understand, androgyny means you are as much masculine as feminine, predominately neither one or the other, but showing aspects of both. But my understanding may be faulty.
 
slingblade said:
Possibly, Boo. From what I understand, androgyny means you are as much masculine as feminine, predominately neither one or the other, but showing aspects of both. But my understanding may be faulty.
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Well, my last three Halloween costumes have been William Wallace, Mephistopheles and The Artful Dodger. So maybe there's something there.
 
slingblade said:
This may relate to the topic, perhaps in a peripheral way. Not sure. But in a thread about feminism, it might be helpful to discover our own gender traits...

http://androgyne.0catch.com/gentest1.htm

This is not the first such test I've taken, and the first one was in college, a few years ago.

My score then, as now, is -11, which puts me in the "nearly masculine" category.

I have no clue what that might mean in the context of feminism and gender-specific rights, and so forth...but perhaps it might be found interesting...
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My score was 0, so I guess I'm truly androgynous -- or at least the way I see myself turns out androgynous. It would be interesting to have someone else score for me, as self-assessment is not always accurate.

I don't consider myself a feminist, but a human being with the same rights and opportunities as other human beings. Maybe because my father always told me I could be whatever I wanted to be and do what I wanted to do.
 
bookitty said:
Well, my last three Halloween costumes have been William Wallace, Mephistopheles and The Artful Dodger. So maybe there's something there.
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Hmmm. My last three have been a soldier, a punk rocker, and Bowie. Looks like I'm sliding down the masculinity scale over time! But getting sexier and more awesome as well.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Hmmm. My last three have been a soldier, a punk rocker, and Bowie. Looks like I'm sliding down the masculinity scale over time! But getting sexier and more awesome as well.
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If it wouldn't derail, I'd be all "pics or didn't happen!"
 
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