Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

[WTC Dust]

Unless you have an engineering degree, please don't insult people who do by calling yourself one.

Cry! You're saying my postdoc doesn't count! The hypocritical thing is that you don't respect Dr. Wood, even though she has specifically related degrees.

 

[beachnut]

It didn't turn to dust.

I thought it was foam? Judy says it was vaporized, gone, beamed away by the NWO Super Nano-Death Star. How does foam fit with beam weapons? Is the current foam attack and support of Judy a case of BUI?

Oh, geez. If I was going to make something up, I certainly wouldn't make up a dang weather report. Those things are archived and easily available to anyone with an internet connection.

Source the weather reports. Judy made up the weather from JFK, she lied. Are you blindly supporting a liar?

 

[alienentity]

Not just downwards, my companion.

Oh, I see. Now you're an expert in aircraft turbulence are you?

Wake Turbulence
'They spread laterally away from the aircraft and descend 500 to 900 feet at distances of up to five miles behind it. These vortices tend to descend 300 to 500 feet per minute during the first 30 seconds.'

Once again WTC Dust makes unsupported, bare assertions which are in fact WRONG.

The wingtip vortexes are fairly compact (small) near the aircraft, and the gigantic explosive forces of the fuel and impacts were far larger in energy. We would expect their effect to be very minor if at all.

However the wake turbulence from the body of the aircraft WERE visible, as R Mackey explained.

You're making more false claims and you're ignoring competent answers. Typical.

Maybe you could get a job working in the insurance industry where you deny claims. You'd be very, very good at it.

 

[WTC Dust]

Yo, yo, yo! You added "significant" to the question. Water does follow a boat as the boat moves through the water. You are admitting it.

Responses in red.

Not in any significant amount.



No, I'm saying the boat doesn't drag a column of water along with it. Waves on the surface of the water are not piles of water moving horizontally. They are water moving up and down. The wave travels, the medium it's in does not.

I didn't say "a column". I said water. Water is dragged behind a boat. It might not be appropriate to call it a "column" of water, and I didn't.

Not anywhere near as much as you seem to think.

Aha! So you're admitting that, to a certain degree, I'm right.

There's this little thing called aerodynamics that they spend lots of time and money studying so that planes can be built to avoid exactly what you are claiming.



Not the kind you seem to expect.



Nope.

 

[alienentity]

I'm not asking for evidence of a wingtip vortex, because I'm not looking specifically for a wingtip vortex. I'd accept any clear evidence of a wake at 9:03AM.

It was provided in spades. You still don't get it.

I've rarely come across someone with as much unjustified arrogance as you, I'm afraid to say. I'm a mere pip by comparison. At least I bother to do some reading on the subjects before giving opinions. Perhaps you should do the same.

 

[WTC Dust]

Wake turbulence? I'm not mentioning this specifically.

Are you saying that air isn't dragged horizontally by an aircraft moving through it? This is a silly claim.

Oh, I see. Now you're an expert in aircraft turbulence are you?

Wake Turbulence
'They spread laterally away from the aircraft and descend 500 to 900 feet at distances of up to five miles behind it. These vortices tend to descend 300 to 500 feet per minute during the first 30 seconds.'

Once again WTC Dust makes unsupported, bare assertions which are in fact WRONG.

The wingtip vortexes are fairly compact (small) near the aircraft, and the gigantic explosive forces of the fuel and impacts were far larger in energy. We would expect their effect to be very minor if at all.

However the wake turbulence from the body of the aircraft WERE visible, as R Mackey explained.

You're making more false claims and you're ignoring competent answers. Typical.

Maybe you could get a job working in the insurance industry where you deny claims. You'd be very, very good at it.

 

[phunk]

Cry! You're saying my postdoc doesn't count! The hypocritical thing is that you don't respect Dr. Wood, even though she has specifically related degrees.

You're terrible at reading comprehension. Seriously, you may want to smoke less.

I didn't say anything "doesn't count", I said you're not an engineer unless you have an engineering degree. Do you have one?

 

[WTC Dust]

It was provided in spades. You still don't get it.

I've rarely come across someone with as much unjustified arrogance as you, I'm afraid to say. I'm a mere pip by comparison. At least I bother to do some reading on the subjects before giving opinions. Perhaps you should do the same.

I'd like to see this clear evidence, and I haven't yet. Please post it. I'm reading what you write.

 

[CompusMentus]

Like some steel foam with WTC 2 victim's DNA in it. That could overturn the entire hijacking theory, GITMO trial and all.

Please answer the question HERE concerning DNA in your sample.

Compus

 

[alienentity]

Guess what WTC Dust? You are simply NOT a recognized, professional engineer. You have no degree in engineering, you are not certified as an engineer, so you have no business claiming to be one.

I'm an engineer too, then, because I've read lots of things about it since I graduated from university as well.

Fine, you're an engineer, I'm an engineer, we're all engineers. That makes perfect sense to me.

But this is a distraction from the heart of the matter: your inability to understand the subject at hand, and your refusal of qualified analysis. You're still failing at the subject, regardless what you call yourself.

ps, you're putting your responses above the quotes again. I'll follow suit to illustrate.

I'm actually an engineer, if you count postdoctoral training.

 

[ratcat]

Not sure why anyone would expect to see evidence of wake turbulence in the presence of an explosion. Doesn't seem logical. As for contrails, I assume these were mentioned in jest as they only happen at high altitude.

 

[WTC Dust]

I didn't begin this life with the hope of being an engineer, but my postdoctoral training was in the department of bioengineering, a discipline that was only beginning when I began my graduate studies. :-(

Guess what WTC Dust? You are simply NOT a recognized, professional engineer. You have no degree in engineering, you are not certified as an engineer, so you have no business claiming to be one.

I'm an engineer too, then, because I've read lots of things about it since I graduated from university as well.

Fine, you're an engineer, I'm an engineer, we're all engineers. That makes perfect sense to me.

But this is a distraction from the heart of the matter: your inability to understand the subject at hand, and your refusal of qualified analysis. You're still failing at the subject, regardless what you call yourself.

 

[Macgyver1968]

Here's a satellite photo of Hurricane Erin straight from Dr. Judy's own website. It shows the eye of Erin some 500 miles from NYC...and the outermost bands several hundred miles from shore. It also shows not a cloud in the sky over NY. Where are the thunderstorms?

 

[Justin39640]

Oh, geez. If I was going to make something up, I certainly wouldn't make up a dang weather report. Those things are archived and easily available to anyone with an internet connection.

OK, WHEN did they hear it? Midnight, nine hours before the fact? Looking at the almanacs there was about an inch of precipitation the day before. At 9AM in NYC it was about 75-80 degrees, almost no wind, and not a cloud in the sky. I was in Freeport, NY working outside.

IIRC, weren't you stuck out of the country that day?

 

[alienentity]

WTC Dust,
Your eyes are closed, I'm amazed you can still read through your eyelids. The evidence has been given.
It's over. Your game has been exposed again and you've failed to trick anybody here with your tactics.

I'd like to see this clear evidence, and I haven't yet. Please post it. I'm reading what you write.

 

[WTC Dust]

Not sure why anyone would expect to see evidence of wake turbulence in the presence of an explosion. Doesn't seem logical. As for contrails, I assume these were mentioned in jest as they only happen at high altitude.

Contrails, maybe, but I'm talking about the air that gets moved around when a plane is flying. Some of it is swirled around. Some of it moves forward along with the plane.

This air, the forward moving air, would have slammed up against the explosion coming from WTC 2 at 9:03AM. Videos don't show clear evidence of a wake disturbing this explosion, or the dust cloud being emitted from WTC 1 at 9:03AM.

 

[WTC Dust]

Here's a satellite photo of Hurricane Erin straight from Dr. Judy's own website. It shows the eye of Erin some 500 miles from NYC...and the outermost bands several hundred miles from shore. It also shows not a cloud in the sky over NY. Where are the thunderstorms?

[qimg]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46946106/hurricaneerrin.jpg[/qimg]

To be specific, I said reports of thunder, not thunderstorms, at all three NYC airports on 9/11.

 

[twinstead]

Oh, geez. If I was going to make something up, I certainly wouldn't make up a dang weather report. Those things are archived and easily available to anyone with an internet connection.

Exactly. That's how we know that there was not a cloud in the sky that day.

 

[WTC Dust]

OK, WHEN did they hear it? Midnight, nine hours before the fact? Looking at the almanacs there was about an inch of precipitation the day before. At 9AM in NYC it was about 75-80 degrees, almost no wind, and not a cloud in the sky. I was in Freeport, NY working outside.

IIRC, weren't you stuck out of the country that day?

No, I was traveling in a rented vehicle.

 

[alienentity]

Now is the time to explain to the readers of this thread what specific training you have which is relevant to aircraft turbulence.

Submit your answer. We're talking aerospace engineering, to be specific (design, construction and science of aircraft and spacecraft).

btw, you could also try to provide a technical explanation for your claims and expectations. Thus far you have provided NOTHING of the sort. Please make reference to established research on aircraft turbulence as you do so.

Thank you for playing.

I didn't begin this life with the hope of being an engineer, but my postdoctoral training was in the department of bioengineering, a discipline that was only beginning when I began my graduate studies. :-(