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The root cause of Africa's problems?

There was actually a study that looked at the length of time various islands were colonized and found that:



http://www.nber.org/papers/w12546.pdf

Dinesh D'Souza wrote a pretty good article explaining why colonialism wasn't as horrible as it's cracked up to be.

Take up the White Man's burden...

Seriously now, I wouldn't quote D'Souza on this:

The amusing thing is that D'Souza does have something of monomania about anti-colonialism; in 2002, he wrote an essay in The Chronicle of Higher Education challenging the academic consensus that colonialism was a bad thing. Jumping off from his own experiences, he argues that "the descendants of colonialism are better off than they would be if colonialism had never happened." As someone who sees the value in political regimes that don't rely on unchecked brutality and violence, I beg to differ, but it does actually stand to reason that D'Souza would feel differently, given his background.

I don't want to take this too far, and the Economist critique was mostly lighthearted, but given D'Souza's entire body of work -- which mostly reads as a defense of unearned privilege and elitism -- the Economist is absolutely right to suggest that his views might owe themselves to his background as the beneficiary of said unearned privilege and elitism. D'Souza's Forbes piece reads like a massive instance of projection; his own views are driven by a resolutely pro-colonialist stance, and so when evaluating someone with opposing views but a familiar background, he assumes that they must be motivated by anti-colonialism. It would be funny if it weren't taken seriously by prominent members of a major political party.

Linky.

Not to mention that the article you linked is just one strawman after another.

The problem with that study is classic correlation/causation. In this case we have correlation, and plenty of proposed causations (education, and so on). However, I don't see what it has to do with culture determining success.
 
If it's do dumb why can't you mount an effective challenge against it?
 
I find it hilarious (as always) that a group of people gathered together under the concept of rooting out the kind of thinking that is detrimental to society (superstition, belief, fantasy, etc.), is arguing about why a continent dominated by that kind of thinking is facing so many problems.
 
Is your name DC?

So far you've been the most wrong person out of everyone who's wrong in this thread.

So you assert, but you have yet to present evidence of your claims that colonialism was at all beneficial to Africa.
 
I find it hilarious (as always) that a group of people gathered together under the concept of rooting out the kind of thinking that is detrimental to society (superstition, belief, fantasy, etc.), is arguing about why a continent dominated by that kind of thinking is facing so many problems.

It's because many of them are not, in fact, gathered together under so lofty a concept. Many are gathered here solely to parrot their indoctrination, much of which involves the identification and demonization of selected scapegoats. The identities of the scapegoats informs as to the underlying purpose of the indoctrination. They are doing the bidding of their ideological masters.

Don't call me crazy unless you have a more likely reason why this crazy argument exists.
 
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The abolition of slavery does not abolish all of slavery's effects over night.

Europe didn't introduce slavery to Africa, which goes back ten thousand years. The Europeans weren't even the most prolific slavers. The Islamic empires were.
 
Europe didn't introduce slavery to Africa, which goes back ten thousand years. The Europeans weren't even the most prolific slavers. The Islamic empires were.

Revise history much?

Are you even aware of haw many millions of African were forcibly removed from Africa as a result of the trans-Atlantic slave trade?
 
Was the abolition of slavery good or bad for Africa?

If you admit it's good you have to admit colonialism did some good. Which means you'd have to admit I'm right.

It's obvious you're looking for something, anything to get you out if that.
 
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Was the abolition of slavery good or bad for Africa?

If you admit it's good you have to admit colonialism did some good. Which means you'd have to admit I'm right.

It's obvious you're looking for something, anything to get you out if that.

So abolishing a slave trade which they established means Europeans did something good for Africa?

That's some twisted "logic".

ETA: Colonialism is not what lead to the abolition of slaver, by your own account.
 
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So abolishing a slave trade which they established means Europeans did something good for Africa?

That's some twisted "logic".

ETA: Colonialism is not what lead to the abolition of slaver, by your own account.

They didn't establish the slave trade. The African rulers did and had been doing it for 10,000 years. Just like every other civilization since before recorded history.
 
They didn't establish the slave trade. The African rulers did and had been doing it for 10,000 years. Just like every other civilization since before recorded history.

The trans-Atlantic slave trade was unique in that it gathered slave from a particular part of the world and was nased solely on the concept of race.

You're really stretching to deny the impact of European slaving on West Africa.
 

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