WW II plane buffs?

Polaris said:
A plane that had 8 .50-caliber BMGs it unleashed into the Wehrmacht on the ground, and was capable of coming back with chunks of telephone pole lodged in the wing doesn't enthuse?
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Nope.

But a fixed carriage, underpowered, radial engined jalopy with 2 .30's (Ki-27) does.

It's craptacular!

See? Arbitrary.

Admittedly, it might be because so many other people enthuse about the P-47 that it just becomes noise. Who else enthuses about the Nate/Abdul? Nobody. Probably not even the people who flew it.

This is why I suspect I might be a warbird hipster.
 
Comrade Raptor said:
Nope.

But a fixed carriage, underpowered, radial engined jalopy with 2 .30's (Ki-27) does.

It's craptacular!

See? Arbitrary.

Admittedly, it might be because so many other people enthuse about the P-47 that it just becomes noise. Who else enthuses about the Nate/Abdul? Nobody. Probably not even the people who flew it.

This is why I suspect I might be a warbird hipster.
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Mitsubishi A5M Claude after colliding with a China Air Force Curtiss Hawk...
Returned to base safely.
 

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Comrade Raptor said:
This is dumpier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Macchi_MC-200_920901-F-1234P-073.jpg
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It's not that dumpy. Now this is dumpy.


And I like the Bolo, too.
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There's no accounting for taste. :) We almost went to war with that piece of carp. During the competition for a new bomber, the B-17 prototype crashed due to pilot error which removed it from the competition. Fortunately the powers-that-be were impressed enough with the B-17 to order 13 of them.

Steve S
 
Comrade Raptor said:
This is dumpier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Macchi_MC-200_920901-F-1234P-073.jpg


And I like the Bolo, too.
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No no-----dumpy and pathetic was defined by a U.S. plane----------

The Brewster F2a Buffalo --------

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_F2A_Buffalo

But yet in the early days in the Pacific theater, several aces used it to score their totals, and the Finns used it to good effect against the Russians. I once read an account from a Japanese pilot that said that the F2a was a nice airplane to shoot down. Apparently the poor thing couldn't get out of it's own way.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Pity they didn't hold out for more Liberators.
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When I was a teenager, we had a next door neighbor who had been a crewman on a B-24 in the Italian campaign. He said everyone referred to them as "flying coffins". But then I suppose that could be said of any multi-engined bomber at the time. But according to him, the B-24 had a high tendency to catch fire when hit by enemy fire.


But then I seem to recall that the 4 engined heavies had a much higher loss rate than the mediums like the A20, B-25 or B-26's. I had an Uncle who was crew chief on a B-25.
 
Uncle Otto said:
No no-----dumpy and pathetic was defined by a U.S. plane----------

The Brewster F2a Buffalo --------

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_F2A_Buffalo

But yet in the early days in the Pacific theater, several aces used it to score their totals, and the Finns used it to good effect against the Russians. I once read an account from a Japanese pilot that said that the F2a was a nice airplane to shoot down. Apparently the poor thing couldn't get out of it's own way.
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The early F2A was much lighter than the version used by the USN. The Finns used the earlier version to good effect against both the Germans and the Russians. And really, pretty much anything that face incredibly maneuverable Japanese aircraft like the A6M and the Ki-43 was doomed. Especially considering that it took a lot of bloody noses to gain enough experience to learn what to do and what not to do when engaging Japanese aircraft.
 
Foster Zygote said:
And really, pretty much anything that face incredibly maneuverable Japanese aircraft like the A6M and the Ki-43 was doomed.
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Only if you tried to fight them in the way they wanted to fight, which was low-speed dogfights. Engage them in a high-speed dogfight and your prospects of winning were pretty good, since that's not what those aircraft were designed to do. They were also rather poorly protected, which meant if you could get in the first shot you'd probably win right there.
 
Uncle Otto said:
No no-----dumpy and pathetic was defined by a U.S. plane----------

The Brewster F2a Buffalo --------

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_F2A_Buffalo

But yet in the early days in the Pacific theater, several aces used it to score their totals, and the Finns used it to good effect against the Russians. I once read an account from a Japanese pilot that said that the F2a was a nice airplane to shoot down. Apparently the poor thing couldn't get out of it's own way.
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clearly when that image was resized someone forgot to tick "preserve aspect ratio"
 
Uncle Otto said:
No no-----dumpy and pathetic was defined by a U.S. plane----------

The Brewster F2a Buffalo --------

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_F2A_Buffalo

But yet in the early days in the Pacific theater, several aces used it to score their totals, and the Finns used it to good effect against the Russians. I once read an account from a Japanese pilot that said that the F2a was a nice airplane to shoot down. Apparently the poor thing couldn't get out of it's own way.
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I see the front anf the back, but someone's stolen the middle out of that plane.
 
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