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An Eric Hovind Press Release, What's Missing?

Questioninggeller

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The Anniston Star, a small local newspaper in Anniston, Alabama published this about Eric Hovind, son of convicted felon Kent Hovind:

Trinity Baptist to host well-known creationist
by Star staff
Anniston Star
Apr 21, 2012


The Rev. Kent Hovind taught his son Eric that Christians should embrace the biblical idea of how Earth was created in seven days, not millions of years, as evolutionists teach.

Kent Hovind was a nationally known speaker on creationism and the founder of the now defunct Dinosaur Adventure Land theme park, before being convicted of tax fraud in 2006.

Eric Hovind has taken up and expanded on his father’s teachings. He is the founder of Creation Today in Pensacola, Fla.

Eric Hovind will speak about creationism next week during a seminar/revival at Trinity Baptist Church in Oxford. It is his second trip to the church.

“The issue is getting bigger, and people are talking about it even more,” he said in a recent telephone interview.

Hovind travels throughout the world speaking about creationism. He has created a related museum in Pensacola. His sermons are aimed not only at adults but also at children, and he often uses animal costumes. Recently, he purchased a 13-foot-long dinosaur costume, and modeled it to kids at the Creation Today museum.

Hovind opposes the theory of evolution. “Did God make the world, or did it make itself?” he asked. “Embracing the theory of evolution is a rejection of God and the Bible.”
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Full: Anniston Star

Can anyone think some details are missing or facts misstated?

I can think of a couple, line-by-line:
1) "the biblical idea of how Earth was created in seven days, not millions of years, as evolutionists teach." Let's see: The idea of a young Earth, an Earth thousands of years old came about in 17th century by James Ussher who claimed night started on 23 October 4004 BC. The date is in disagreement with many Christians, including contemporary creationist Hugh Ross, who believes the Earth is billions of years old. Thus, hardly a "Biblical idea."

On top of this, scientists have dated the Earth, using dozens of different dating methods to conclude the "age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years" (not "millions").

2) What is an "evolutionist"? Is that anything like a scientist or the scientific community? Maybe a scientist who accepts the theory of gravity is a "gravitationist"?
3) Kent Hovind was "nationally known"? As a comedian with fake degrees and a long list of conspiracy beliefs that he promoted ("the New World Order," UFOs, denial of Germ theory, claims that you don't need a drivers license, that Catholics created Islam, that the government was behind 9/11 and the Oklahoma City bombing and so on)? Or maybe as a convicted felon?
4) "Taken up his father's teachings"? Including his ones that you need to pay taxes? That the US government was behind 9/11? About the New World Order led by Ted Turner?
5) "Hovind travels throughout the world speaking about creationism." According to his website, he has 13 speaking engagements throughout the United States, which are either at churches, a church youth camp or a "conference" Eric organized. There is a difference between the US and the world, and that he speaks in front of churches, not where science is discussed.
6) "Hovind opposes the theory of evolution." What are his scientific credentials for anyone to care what he has to say about biology? He seems to not even know the difference between Abiogenesis (cosmology) and evolution (biology).

Oh wait, he has a "one year diploma" from an unaccredited Bible "college" (Jackson Hole Bible College's website says its "A Ministry of Community Bible Church" in Jackson, WY). It offers one week or two week courses on topic like "Creation Worldview," "Prophecy," "Church History," "Finance" and a one week class called "Intro to Greek and Hebrew." Then it gives those "students" a "Diploma of Biblical Foundations" at the end of "school" year.

So that means, he has NOT even had a basic introductory level science class from a junior college, much less an undergraduate degree in science awarded from a research university but goes around literally dismissing entire scientific fields, where qualified peple with PhDs spend their entire lives experimenting and publishing peer-reviewed data.

No wonder there is no name under the byline. When so many facts are false or misleading, it would literally take a few pages to correct the errors. The promotion of nonsense happens when people misstate facts and give equal footing to unqualified people as they do actual experts, ie scientists. The Anniston Star did the public a disservice by misleading their readers about Eric Hovind, science, the Bible and history.
 
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You have to remember that the same thing happened for flat earther's too. The idea of creationism is religious more than factual and is argued as such, facts be damned.
 
It's a small town Bible Belt paper. What do you expect, Pulitzer Prize level journalism? They probably just reprinted a press release to fill space between ads. Have a drink and relax.

Slanche.

When they come up with some new ploy or idiocy they're worth a glance, but otherwise not. Hovind's done nothing of any note recently, which perhaps explains the press-release, and there's real journalism on display apparently :

'“The issue is getting bigger, and people are talking about it even more,” [Hovind] said in a recent telephone interview.'

They followed-up with a phone-call. You don't often see that much investigation these days :).

Of course the only possible response to Hovind's statement is "You wish!" :rolleyes:. It's getting smaller, so the same old people are talking about it more.
 
Creationism is proof that homeopathy is garbage. Back when it was the leading scientific theory, no one cared too much about it. As its advocates were forced to retreat further and further into irrationality, they've become steadily more and more vocal. They've also gotten crazier and crazier.

That said, Creationism is a zombie. It died before Darwin's time, and is now a shambling, rotting corpse of a hypothesis, supported by nothing but wishful thinking. Nothing any of the leading Creationist advocates says can be worthy of news, unless they say "I was wrong, evolution is right". And even then, I wouldn't care. They've lost all credibility.
 
1) "the biblical idea of how Earth was created in seven days, not millions of years, as evolutionists teach." Let's see: The idea of a young Earth, an Earth thousands of years old came about in 17th century by James Ussher who claimed night started on 23 October 4004 BC. The date is in disagreement with many Christians, including contemporary creationist Hugh Ross, who believes the Earth is billions of years old. Thus, hardly a "Biblical idea."

This the bit I have always struggled with - It says nothing about the age of the Earth or that even the generations are linear, but we run with this like it is a verse in the old testament.
 
MG1962 said:
but we run with this like it is a verse in the old testament.
The highlighted part is where I disagree with you. *I* don't make this claim--Creationists do. If a Creationist wants to propose a different age, I'll run with that. They usually don't, though--6,000 or 10,000 is all they've ever heard, so that MUST be true!
 
This the bit I have always struggled with - It says nothing about the age of the Earth or that even the generations are linear, but we run with this like it is a verse in the old testament.
If one calculates all the dates that are listed in the bible, it is easy to conclude that the universe (according to the bible) was created about 6000 years ago - about the same time that written history commenced.
 
If one calculates all the dates that are listed in the bible, it is easy to conclude that the universe (according to the bible) was created about 6000 years ago - about the same time that written history commenced.

Can you point me to the verse that the genealogy in the Bible has no gaps and is a linear progression from Adam to Christ
 
Perhaps I'm naive, but I've never understood why Bible thumpers are so desperate to accept everything in that stupid book literally. Can't you believe in God AND also accept the possibility that that fairy tale book was written by a bunch of misanthropic morons?
 
Can you point me to the verse that the genealogy in the Bible has no gaps and is a linear progression from Adam to Christ
Luke 3:23-38 seems to have such a list. No gaps are provided for, as each of the names is "son of" another.
 
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Agreed however we have no idea how long Adam was hanging out in the garden
It doesn't matter.
And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth: (Genesis 5:3)

And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: (Genesis 5:6)
etc etc etc
 
I once traced the timeline from Adam to the flood (about 1650 years if I remember) before losing interest.
Well done! The time line is shown in wiki as:
Masoretic 1,656; Alexandrinus 2,262; Vaticanus 2,242; Samaritan 1,307. Note: The Masoretic, Alexandrinus and Samaritan chronologies put the deaths of all the pre-Flood patriarchs except Noah either in or prior to the Flood, but Vaticanus has Methuselah outlive the Flood by 14 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_the_Bible Western versions of the OT are based on the Masoretic Text. As shown above, the various different sources give different figures (needless to say!), the Alexandrian Septuagint giving a much higher figure.
 
Agreed however we have no idea how long Adam was hanging out in the garden

There is always the unanswerable question of where Cain found a wife, when his parents were supposed to be the original parents of EVERYONE.
 

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