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Merged Roosevelt's Rotten Record:Communism, Treachery, Betrayal

carlitos said:
Seriously, if posters here think that they add value by responding to SHC's posts, they should surf the 9/11 subforum and see.
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Look who's talking. You just responded to my post and added absolutely no value while urging others not to do the same.

You guys are trolling your own board!
 
MaGZ said:
So you are unaware the US was in the isolationist camp prior to Pearl Harbor?

Amazing
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Heh heh, now you've done it. Gawdzilla will now hit you over the head with Gallup polls from the time showing that the U.S. was not really in the isolationist camp at the time.

*cue six hundred foot fire-breathing prehistoric lizard that has a fondness for eating Tokyo*
 
Border Reiver said:
In 1939. By 1941 the US People were realizing that they could not remain neutral and were strongly leaning towards the Allies. The US had entered into a defence relationship with Canada, and was selling war materiel to both the Dominion and to the UK on credit.

The US started as isolationist but was growing up to realize that they were not able to say that what goes on outside our borders doesn't concern us.
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Interesting tidbit, I thought it would be something like that. If the USA was really as isolationist as CTists like to suggest during the time that Pearl Harbor attacks had happened it probably would have cause them to withdraw even more into their own shell.
 
Lend-Lease [1] was the program under which the United States of America supplied the United Kingdom, the Soviet Union, China, Free France, and other Allied nations with materiel between 1941 and 1945. It was signed into law on March 11, 1941, a year and a half after the outbreak of war in Europe in September 1939 but nine months before the U.S. entered the war in December 1941. Formally titled An Act to Further Promote the Defense of the United States, the Act effectively ended the United States' pretense of neutrality.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
 
Mudcat said:
Interesting tidbit, I thought it would be something like that. If the USA was really as isolationist as CTists like to suggest during the time that Pearl Harbor attacks had happened it probably would have cause them to withdraw even more into their own shell.
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If the US was really isolationist the Japanese wouldn't have had to attack us at all.
 
Biscuit said:
Kind of like the moon bats who claim that the thousands of people involved in constructing the apollo space craft weren't in on the hoax... so that means they actually would have designed and built space worthy craft that could go to the moon so why not just go to the moon?

Without evidence one is forced to play mental twister to try and keep the fantasy alive. Right food - Ridiculous. Left hand - implausible.
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I spent a lot of time arguing with such hoaxers in one particular thread on ATS. Whenever I pointed out how many people would have to be involved, one poster called FoosM would spam C&P'd text and images that were only tangentially related in order to bury my points. Several times, people pointed out that with all the effort to perpetuate the conspiracy, they might as well have just gone to the moon.
 
000063 said:
I spent a lot of time arguing with such hoaxers in one particular thread on ATS. Whenever I pointed out how many people would have to be involved, one poster called FoosM would spam C&P'd text and images that were only tangentially related in order to bury my points. Several times, people pointed out that with all the effort to perpetuate the conspiracy, they might as well have just gone to the moon.
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Mitchell and Webb nailed the Moon hoax nonsense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw
 
SpringHallConvert said:
It's humorous watching these government truther revisionists try to spin the American people's notorious, pre-WW2 isolationism into some sort of pro-interventionist fairytale. How utterly deceptive.
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Google the "lend Lease act"


ETA: Beaten to it by several others.
 
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SpringHallConvert said:
It's humorous watching these government truther revisionists try to spin the American people's notorious, pre-WW2 isolationism into some sort of pro-interventionist fairytale. How utterly deceptive.
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It is even funnier how you just assert things without any statistics. What proportion, where, were isolationist?
 
Mondial said:
Franklin Roosevelt was a closet communist. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pearl/www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/fdr.html
Everything he condemned in Hitler - one party state, dictatorship, secret police, concentration camps, press censorship - he supported in Stalin. Apologists for FDR state that this was because of the wartime alliance with the USSR. This is a lie. One of the first acts of the Roosevelt administration in the field of foreign affairs was to give diplomatic recognition to the Soviet Union. This was at the same time - 1933 - that Stalin was starving 10 million Ukrainians to death www.holodomor.org which the US government knew all about. Also during the Spanish civil war instead of being neutral and supporting neither side Roosevelt openly sided with the Repubicans who had many communists in their ranks and who had received arms and ammunition from Stalin. Roosevelt spoke of "democracy" when in reality he helped extend soviet communist dictatorship over half of Europe. It was FDR who came up with the idea of unconditional surrender instead of a negotiated peace which prolonged the war leading to millions of casualties on both sides. Roosevelt was a criminal who should have been impeached.
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Major Jordan's Diaries - link to a book by a US air force officer who had firsthand experience of FDR's support of communism. It details the billions and billions in aid given to the soviets including materiel to build the atomic bomb. www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars/jordan/01.html
 
Mondial said:
Major Jordan's Diaries - link to a book by a US air force officer who had firsthand experience of FDR's support of communism. It details the billions and billions in aid given to the soviets including materiel to build the atomic bomb. www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars/jordan/01.html
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You mean the Lend Lease program that was a matter of public record and was approved by congress? Those billions of dollars in aid? The thing that everyone apart apparently from you already knew about?
 
Mondial said:
Major Jordan's Diaries - link to a book by a US air force officer who had firsthand experience of FDR's support of communism. It details the billions and billions in aid given to the soviets including materiel to build the atomic bomb. www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars/jordan/01.html
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Mondial, have you actually read that "book", because the good Major comes off as a fruit cake.
 
In fact there is a thread in this very Forum discussing the US Lend-Lease aid to the USSR in WW2. Hardly needs exposing in someones Diaries.

Lend-Lease to the Allies was one of the great achievements of the US in WW2
 
Captain_Swoop said:
In fact there is a thread in this very Forum discussing the US Lend-Lease aid to the USSR in WW2. Hardly needs exposing in someones Diaries.

Lend-Lease to the Allies was one of the great achievements of the US in WW2
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I did a file on Lend-Lease, a set of tables with 72,000+ cells. Took me weeks to get right. I've posted a link to it before.
 
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