JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
An objective truth-seeker would simply answer the question. I want to hear Jay Windley explain it.
No you don't. Satisfy my criteria first, otherwise no debate with you.
An objective truth-seeker would simply answer the question. I want to hear Jay Windley explain it.
I commented on the poll and my post got deleted. I can't speak my mind here about that poll.
Why doesn't some lurker go and register at Baut and try to post the info that's in the link that's at the bottome of this post?
You're right about that but you showed yourself to be less-than-sincere at the Clavius forum. It's all explained in the link at the bottom of this post.I'd like to hear Jarrah's side of this story. We have no way of confirming anything you've said. All we have is your word.
Prove that you have more than Jarrah's word.
I thought I had in post #8135. You just want to avoid the question because you know that anomaly is too clear to obfuscate. You prefer to deal with issues that aren't as clear. I doubt you will ever address the issues I've asked you to address such as this one...No you don't. Satisfy my criteria first, otherwise no debate with you.
I thought I had in post #8135.
You just want to avoid the question...
Posts that get deleted on this forum go to the "Abandon All Hope" section that only logged in viewers have access to. Here they are.I commented on the poll and my post got deleted. I can't speak my mind here about that poll.
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...and I simply do not believe you....you have demonstrated a decided lack of personal integrity, and I just don't believe anything you have to say.
....you showed yourself to be less-than-sincere at the Clavius forum. It's all explained in the link at the bottom of this post.
...I don't think it's unreasonable to call it the "Clavius forum".
You just want to avoid the question because you know that anomaly is too clear to obfuscate.
I doubt you will ever address the issues I've asked you to address such as this one...
...they're such clear hoax evidence....
Why don't you come over the moon thread at Spurstalk...
Why don't you come over the moon thread at Spurstalk and we can discuss the flag issue and the issue of Collins' swinging jacket corner?
You showed you don't believe your own arguments when you made this post.You claim I know the Apollo missions were fake, and that my defense of them is what the government pays me to do. You will provide evidence for that claim right now, or you will withdraw that accusation right now.
Posts that get deleted on this forum go to the "Abandon All Hope" section that only logged in viewers have access to. Here they are.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233480
You may sway a few people who don't take the time to look at the info, but people who look at it will see you for what you are.
The truth is not defamatory. People can see what I've said and decide for themselves. Look at link at the bottom of this post.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8014461&postcount=128
Hey Jay.
My position is that the movement of the flag in this clip is consistent with the atmphere explanation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y
(2:36 time mark)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0
If your position is that this footage wasn't taken in air, how would the flag move in air? How would the movement be different than it is?
I presented an issue for you people to address, but so far, you've just tap danced around and avoided it.Why don't you come over the moon thread at Spurstalk and we can discuss the flag issue and the issue of Collins' swinging jacket corner?
Why can't you present your evidence for a hoax, here? We all know why you want a "change of venue", and it just ain't gonna happen.
You're not fooling any of the real viewers.
It would swing wider and it wouldn't come to a stop as quickly as the Apollo flag does in this video at the 2:00 and 2:15 time marks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
It would continue swinging back and forth the way the flag does at the 00:50 time mark.
You showed you don't believe your own arguments when you made this post.
I want you all to explain how you think the flag would move in atmosphere.
Objective truth-seekers modify their opinions when they see their positions don't add up.
I suppose you'd just tap dance around on the moon thread at Spurstalk too though.
I've never seen a case where an astronaut trotted by a flag in the same manner. Please link to one.Simple; if it were in air, it would move at different times (not just the one example.) Why point at the one time it appears to have been moved by the breeze of a passing astronaut, and ignore all the times it does NOT move -- even in the slightest -- in response to activity near it.
It would take a bigger wind that the one created by the astronaut to make it billow; he was at a forty five degree angle to the flag when he trotted by it. He would have to trot by parallel to it at a slightly greater speed to make it billow.In addition, when it does move, it moves in a way inconsistent with being in atmosphere. It does not billow. The motions it makes are extremely un-natural for an object in atmosphere.
Please point one out; I've never seen one.Plus, of course, there are other objects within the same footage that also fail to react as if they are in atmosphere.
I've never seen one that duplicated the exact condition; the astronaut would have to trot by at a forty five degree angle. I've never seen that done.Finally, the proposed mechanism (a breeze made by a passing astronaut) has not been successfully demonstrated by experiment. So, again, "atmosphere" fails as an explanation.
Remember the poll??
I commented on the poll and my post got deleted. I can't speak my mind here about that poll.