On 9/11, WTC7 Collapse Was Firemen's Concern (controlled demolition debunked)

[aggle-rithm]

Oooo! This sounds like a fun game!

I'm going to say he mentions "government truthers" and that we should be asking who set the fires on multiple floors of WTC7.

I notice he's using "truther" in the same way fundamentalists use the word "religion" to refer to evolution.

 

[000063]

NWO Minion: Sir, we have a problem with the WTC 7 demo.
Boss: What is it?
Minion: The charges were disrupted.
Boss: What? How?
Minion: Turns out you can't precisely aim the collapse a 110-story building several times larger than the largest building ever publicly demo'd.
Boss: Huh. Well, no one could see it coming.
Minion: Except the experts we hired to do the job. Should we abort?
Boss: Nah, lets just go ahead and blow it anyway, hope it turns out fine and that none of the people crawling over the wreckage notice anything. It's not like there'll be dozens of cameras at the scene, right?

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Not only has the point in the OP been conclusively determined in multiple threads over the years, but it's also been demonstrated in the firefighter quotes Gravy gathered for his page as well as their testimonies as given to the NYTimes, the various investigators, etc.

Beyond a certain point, we have to ask ourselves if someone's posting in this thread to bring up genuine concerns, or just to spray truther graffiti all over it.

 

[NoahFence]

Seriously, what would it take for the posters here, en masse, to ignore this act? No value is added. None. Can I PM you a lollipop or something?

I just figured I'd second that post....

 

[tfk]

I do, but she wrote Gone With the Wind a long time before Watergate. She died a long time before Watergate, too.

Martha Mitchell, maybe?

LoL.

Yup, Martha Mitchell.

One seriously pissed off woman, who knew where lots of skeletons were buried, and aching for her last 5 minutes of fame.

All those guys were terrified every time she called a press conference.

Priceless.

 

[tfk]

… tell us why I am wrong, and what the right answer is.

... or ignore the issue, just like you've ignored all others, and prove once again that you've got nothing of any substance to offer to the discussion.

[crickets]

Well, that wasn't hard to call.

Must be a real bitch going thru life terrified of actually saying anything.

I still see no evidence of your supposed expertise.

LMAO.

Don't lie to me, kid.

You see all the evidence that you need in my posts to know that I am exactly what I say I am. And that is exactly why you chose to ask not one single questions to confirm or contradict my assertion.

Because you know what the answer is going to be.

Like most Twoofers, you ain't the slightest bit interested in the truth.

Lie to someone else.

Anybody can beat their chest and claim they are something they are not.

Amusing that you describe my claim to being a mechanical engineer as "beating my chest".

Thanks for the compliment.

Too bad you don't mean it. Too bad that, out of one side of your face, you compliment engineers, and out of the other side, you insult us as being tools of politicians, lawyers or bureaucrats.

Clearly, to the list of "things about which you don't know jack", we can add "engineers".

BTW, no one is the slightest bit interested in beating ones chest on the interwebz to an insignificant nobody like you.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that you don't really know what brought WTC7 down,

LMFAO.

Wrong. I do know what brought those buildings down.

I don't "suspect". Or "believe".

I KNOW.

Because that is exactly what real engineers do. Unlike those incompetent poseurs at ae911t.

We figure stuff out.

We don't "ask questions". Any pudknocker can do that.
We provide answers.

Very simple, really.

… nor do you really know who Al-Qaeda was working on behalf of that day.

Correct.

Proximally, I don't care.
I still choose to execute the assassin, regardless of who hired him.

Ultimately, I'd also want to find out if he was working for someone else. And if so, I'd execute them as well.

Allow me to point something out to you: your pathetic rap ("nobody knows nuthin' bout nuthin'.") is exquisitely useless for finding out who he might have worked for.

Or for figuring out anything, for that matter.

Pathetically useless, ain't it.

Your 9/11 conspiracy theory is based on speculation, just like mine is.

Nope. They're based on epistemology.

Unlike you, I've got one that works.


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[leftysergeant]

Speculative. For all you know, it collapsed due to sabotage.

Steell buildings are subject to collapse in fires. Fire Science 101. There being no demonstrable evidence of sabotage, it is hardly speculative that the fire caused the collapse.

Speculative. You don't know this. Perhaps evidence was found and covered up?

Hillariously speculative. There is no known mechanism by which such structures could be surreptitious sabotaged without leaving residues that any fire fighter or iron worker would spot right away. Fire fighters are not know to be easily silenced in that sort of situation.

 

[leftysergeant]

I still see no evidence of your supposed expertise. Anybody can beat their chest and claim they are something they are not.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that you don't really know what brought WTC7 down, nor do you really know who Al-Qaeda was working on behalf of that day. Your 9/11 conspiracy theory is based on speculation, just like mine is.

Nor have you any credentials in any of the areas addressed. What's your point?

You can assume that a board like this will attract people in professions relevant to 9/11. None of them identifying themselves as professionals question the credentials of the others claiming such credentials. Probability that any member claiming credentials is what he says he is approach 90%.

 

[leftysergeant]

There's no reason to believe you know jack about what you are talking about in this thread, so, rejected again.

Well, there are all those CDI videos on YouTube that demonstrate how FREAKING LOUD demolition charges are and how little those puffs of dust that the twoofers get all worked up about resemble "squibs."

 

[000063]

Steell buildings are subject to collapse in fires. Fire Science 101. There being no demonstrable evidence of sabotage, it is hardly speculative that the fire caused the collapse.

Hillariously speculative. There is no known mechanism by which such structures could be surreptitious sabotaged without leaving residues that any fire fighter or iron worker would spot right away. Fire fighters are not know to be easily silenced in that sort of situation.

I think it was you or Tri who said something like "Men and women who run into burning buildings for a living aren't easily cowed." Given that hundreds of their colleagues died, and there were thousands of firefighters there, it would literally be impossible to get them to shut up.

 

[GlennB]

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that you don't really know what brought WTC7 down, .....

Ah, but we know what didn't bring WTC7 down, and that includes explosives and incendiary devices. Also a billion magic pixies furiously filing away at the columns with their pixie hacksaws.

 

[twinstead]

Tell me the Pixie Hacksaws wouldn't be a killer name for a rock band...

 

[GlennB]

Tell me the Pixie Hacksaws wouldn't be a killer name for a rock band...

Go do it

edit: I want 10% of the gross.

 

[triforcharity]

I think it was you or Tri who said something like "Men and women who run into burning buildings for a living aren't easily cowed." Given that hundreds of their colleagues died, and there were thousands of firefighters there, it would literally be impossible to get them to shut up.

Correct, I think we've both made that point.

Hell, FDNY filed a civil suit when our radios didn't work as planned, or even half way reliably. But yet, 343 of our Brothers died, and nobody speaks up.....

Odd that.

 

[SpringHallConvert]

Ah, but we know what didn't bring WTC7 down, and that includes explosives and incendiary devices.

You don't know that, you only think you do.

 

[beachnut]

Ah, but we know what didn't bring WTC7 down, and that includes explosives and incendiary devices. Also a billion magic pixies furiously filing away at the columns with their pixie hacksaws.

Sane people know, insane claim believers and zero evidence 911 truth movement followers have no clue. Asking them to come up evidence to support their delusions is a waste of time.

...

Good video...but the truthers only believe the MSM when it benefits them.

It would be a first if 911 truth followers could comment on the OP, and use some evidence to explain their point.

 

[twinstead]

You don't know that, you only think you do.

You only think he only thinks he does. Wow. That's fun, isn't it?

At least he has a valid reason to believe what he does, based on very real evidence and investigation. You have nothing but incredulity and political bias at your disposal.

 

[Edx]

Well, there are all those CDI videos on YouTube that demonstrate how FREAKING LOUD demolition charges are and how little those puffs of dust that the twoofers get all worked up about resemble "squibs."

You dun't know what what dat govmint has man!!!!

 

[SpringHallConvert]

At least he has a valid reason to believe what he does, based on very real evidence and investigation.

What investigation? Was it independent? How do you know what evidence was really found? How do you know the investigation was credible?

Let me guess. Some guy reading a teleprompter on TV said so?

 

[DGM]

What investigation? Was it independent? How do you know what evidence was really found? How do you know the investigation was credible?

How do you know it wasn't?