Galloway is back

[dudalb]

Just read Galloway's message to the voters in his district.
Wow. Just Wow. As an American, I thought nobody could pander to a group of voters like a American Pol could, but Galloway's pander is as bad as anything I have seen in the USA. It's the "And I never have drank alcohol" bit that lifts it into the stratosphere of mindless pandering.

 

[Virus]

Galloway won on sectarian lines by claiming to be more Islamic than his opposition. I don't think his electorate want a mainstream party. I think they voted for him because they wanted a little Islamo-lefty.

 

[angrysoba]

Forgotten what you're referring to here, but if I said you said it, you said it.

A blatant lie. And citing yourself as an authority on truth won't impress me or probably anyone else.

Oh I have the exact quote, I just didn't feel the need to keep quoting it in an exchange you too have noticed is becoming tedious.

Blah blah. Your need to be discourteous is a strong indicator too, eh?

This is from the person who began this exchange by saying I had browned my trousers.

Here, dear reader, angrysoba quotes some other post than that which started this tedious exchange.

In fact, dear reader, I was quoting exactly the same post.

See above. What i actually responded to was this:

But before everyone starts crapping their pants (or demanding that others do), the UK is not going to go Nazi. Only people who are even more paranoid and juvenile than Galloway voters can think so.

If you don't want people to imagine you mean that 56% of Bradford voters are paranoid and juvenile, you'd be best advised not to say so.

Just to prove the highlighter-pen is mightier than jiggeryqua' s word, you can see the bit jiggeryqua quoted, now with the context restored. It is amusing because jiggeryqua bemoaned the inability of other, unspecified, posters to read back through the exchange yet he doesn't even know where the words he is quoting come from.

Look, Galloway is a ****, right? He certainly supports terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hizbollah. He supports dictators such as Assad and the Castros. He loves Ahmadinejad and is a declared supporter of the guy. He likes just about anyone who is against US and UK foreign and domestic policy. The latter wouldn't be so bad if it were principled as I am against a lot of UK and US foreign policy and think the people in charge of it are - at best - total clowns. But Galloway isn't even a principled opponent of US and UK foreign policy. He's someone who knows how to make himself some cash by being funded by all sorts of unsavoury regimes.

He is also someone who, like it or not, is very charismatic and knows a lot of stuff. He regularly makes mainstream politicians and media look like fools, not because he has "juvenile fans" flying from the mainstream to the fringes but quite obviously because the mainstream often is populated by know-nothing idiots and fools. Just look at people like Ed Miliband who is supposed to be the opposition to the ConDem government. When you have a hapless spastic like him trying to take on an obviously insincere bunch of tossers like the Conservative Party (read Charles Moore's "Even I... op.ed) and the Lib Dems (a party whose electoral platform was all based on opposing cuts etc...) then you can see why mainstream voters have nobody to vote for.

But before everyone starts crapping their pants (or demanding that others do), the UK is not going to go Nazi. Only people who are even more paranoid and juvenile than Galloway voters can think so.

I suspect that adult dinner-table conversation would leave poor jiggeryqua completely stunned and bewildered given the tin-ear he is afflicted with. I think the complete inability to pick up on irony - even heavy-handed irony - could lead to some distressing moments of incomprehension.

Whatever you do, don't ever read Swift's Modest Proposal, you'd be stunned at the callousness of the author.

 

[trustbutverify]

Just read Galloway's message to the voters in his district.
Wow. Just Wow. As an American, I thought nobody could pander to a group of voters like a American Pol could, but Galloway's pander is as bad as anything I have seen in the USA. It's the "And I never have drank alcohol" bit that lifts it into the stratosphere of mindless pandering.

Yup. But if you think that's repulsive, spend a coupla hours reading up on the "Man's man". It gets way worse.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

Galloway won on sectarian lines by claiming to be more Islamic than his opposition. I don't think his electorate want a mainstream party. I think they voted for him because they wanted a little Islamo-lefty.

What the hell is an Islamo-lefty?

 

[Virus]

What the hell is an Islamo-lefty?

Thought it was pretty self-explanatory. Part lefty, part Islamist. It's what you get when you take an old Stalinist hack and graft Islamic fundamentalism onto it.

Galloway spoke of the "Bradford Spring" on the day of his election victory. That's a very interesting statement. The Arab Spring has propelled Islamists into power in Egypt and Tunisia. Britain now has the dubious honour of being the first Western country to elect an Islamist into office.

 

[stokes234]

What the hell is an Islamo-lefty?

Virus has decided to consolidate all his enemies into one small, easy to handle monthly payment marxist-leninist-stalinist-islamist-anarchist-liberal-nazi-galloway.

 

[Rolfe]

Quiet! I am twying to shame the cwazy wabbits into wefwaining fwom ewecting more Galloways.

Do you think there is anyone active in this thread who actually voted for Gorgeous George?

Anyway, the way you're going about it would drive any normal person into doing exactly that, even if he hadn't originally intended to.

Rolfe.

 

[jiggeryqua]

A blatant lie. And citing yourself as an authority on truth won't impress me or probably anyone else.

This is from the person who began this exchange by saying I had browned my trousers.

In fact, dear reader, I was quoting exactly the same post.

Just to prove the highlighter-pen is mightier than jiggeryqua' s word, you can see the bit jiggeryqua quoted, now with the context restored. It is amusing because jiggeryqua bemoaned the inability of other, unspecified, posters to read back through the exchange yet he doesn't even know where the words he is quoting come from.

I suspect that adult dinner-table conversation would leave poor jiggeryqua completely stunned and bewildered given the tin-ear he is afflicted with. I think the complete inability to pick up on irony - even heavy-handed irony - could lead to some distressing moments of incomprehension.

Whatever you do, don't ever read Swift's Modest Proposal, you'd be stunned at the callousness of the author.

Funnily enough, I've read Swift. If you get kicks from pretending you're being amusing to an imaginary audience as you insult other posters, you crack on. But you're no Swift

Of course, what you *meant* is clear to you. To imagine it is then clear to someone else suggests an autistic spectrum disorder. By the by, you keep using the word 'irony'. I realise language develops through the common uptake of mistakes, but that word doesn't mean what you appear to think it means.

Now, it's clear that you're not the kind of adult I'd have round my dinner table for conversation, so I'm going to graciously permit you the last word. Let's see if you can manage a post that isn't offensive.

 

[JihadJane]

Funnily enough, I've read Swift. If you get kicks from pretending you're being amusing to an imaginary audience as you insult other posters, you crack on. But you're no Swift

Of course, what you *meant* is clear to you. To imagine it is then clear to someone else suggests an autistic spectrum disorder. By the by, you keep using the word 'irony'. I realise language develops through the common uptake of mistakes, but that word doesn't mean what you appear to think it means.

Now, it's clear that you're not the kind of adult I'd have round my dinner table for conversation, so I'm going to graciously permit you the last word. Let's see if you can manage a post that isn't offensive.

Please don't use people on the autism spectrum "disorder" to score cheap points against the deluded. Thank you.

Do you think there is anyone active in this thread who actually voted for Gorgeous George?

Anyway, the way you're going about it would drive any normal person into doing exactly that, even if he hadn't originally intended to.

Rolfe.

If he stood in my constituency I'd vote for him.

Just read Galloway's message to the voters in his district.
Wow. Just Wow. As an American, I thought nobody could pander to a group of voters like a American Pol could, but Galloway's pander is as bad as anything I have seen in the USA. It's the "And I never have drank alcohol" bit that lifts it into the stratosphere of mindless pandering.

I'm not a Muslim but trust people who don't use alcohol (or use heroin) more than those who do.

 

[Skepticemea]

I'm not a Muslim but trust people who don't use alcohol (or use heroin) more than those who do.

Interesting value judgement. I'd Godwin this if it were worth doing.

 

[richardm]

I'm not a Muslim but trust people who don't use alcohol (or use heroin) more than those who do.

Alcohol is such an inherent part of Western culture that I'd really want to know the reason they didn't before making a judgement. If it was because it's not altogether good for you I might think "Fair enough". If it was because they were raving religious nutcases who believe that the Demon Drink is a snare for the spirit, I might think twice about making a cross against their name.

I'm not sure what Galloway's reason is, but his recent comments on the subject certainly seem to place him in the Snare camp.

 

[zooterkin]

This is apparently a flyer from George Galloway posted out before the election. Interesting that he starts out criticising the opposition for running a sectarian campaign, then a couple of paragraphs later starts wonking on about.. well. I'll let you read it yourself.

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I guess he knows what his target audience is; at any rate it'll be fuel for the BNP and EDL's fire I should imagine.

So, he's clearly aiming to give the impression that he's actually a Muslim (or certainly more of a Muslim than the rival candidate) without actually saying so, so he can deny it later as a misunderstanding if necessary.

 

[jiggeryqua]

Please don't use people on the autism spectrum "disorder" to score cheap points against the deluded. Thank you.

Well, being Aspergian I give myself a little more leeway in that regard. Furthermore, it is the case that that particular 'delusion' (that others will necessarily have access to the contents of your mind) is one of the key indicators of autistic spectrum 'disorders'. The point needed to be made, I'm not sure what makes it a 'cheap' point, but it was made in a post where I'm clearly withdrawing from an exchange that had been cheapened down to a value of approximately zero.

 

[jiggeryqua]

If it was because they were raving religious nutcases who believe that the Demon Drink is a snare for the spirit, I might think twice about making a cross against their name.

I'm not sure what Galloway's reason is, but his recent comments on the subject certainly seem to place him in the Snare camp.

Do you mean Galloway's recent comments in the Sky interview posted here? Where he kept telling the interviewer he'd rather talk about politics than his religion, and in which the interviewer kept interrogating him about his beliefs?

Yeah, he's a raving religious nutcase for sure.

I drink, heavily at times, but I can see why anyone could decide alcohol was best avoided, given the more noticeable effects of a drinking culture.

If you want raving religious nutcase politicians, Blair & Bush sacrificed lives to their god. Other people's lives, of course.

 

[richardm]

Do you mean Galloway's recent comments in the Sky interview posted here? .

No, those aren't the comments I mean.

 

[stokes234]

This guardian article claims his attitude towards women was an important aspect of his victory: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/04/how-women-won-it-for-galloway

 

[Professor Yaffle]

Galloway was on the 10 o'clock show with David Mitchell last night, not letting the other politicians get a word in as usual. He says he won eighty something percent of the vote in the university ward - mainly positioning himself as a protest vote against tuition fees.

Given that he's a catholic, when he says he's teetotal and always has been, its probably because he's grown up watching too many people drink themselves into an early grave. /blatant stereotyping of catholics...

Galloway was raised as a Roman Catholic. He turned away from the Church as a young man, but returned in his mid-20s after a trip to Beirut in 1977,[13] becoming a passionate supporter of Palestine stating "barely a week after my return I made a pledge to devote the rest of my life to the Palestinian and Arab cause". By his own account he decided, at the age of 18, never to drink alcohol. He disapproves of it and describes it as having a "very deleterious effect on people".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Galloway

 

[stokes234]

I'm not a Muslim but trust people who don't use alcohol (or use heroin) more than those who do.

Not sure I understand the comparison. Would you trust people who don't drink coffee (or smoke crystal meth) more than those who do?

 

[trustbutverify]

If he stood in my constituency I'd vote for him.

Excuse me, I'm in shock right now.

I'm not a Muslim but trust people who don't use alcohol (or use heroin) more than those who do.

Please. You'd trust the most pathetic heroin addict on earth if he told you what you like to hear.