I just saw a UFO

UnrepentantSinner said:
Was outside having a smoke and saw what I believe to be one of the "black triangle" craft I've been hearing about. It was travelling north/northeast and looked to be about 3-5 miles away and between 1000 and 3000 ft. Size was hard to guage because I saw it mostly side on, but 500-1000 feet long. There's a lot of air traffic in and out of Love Field, Dallas-Fort Worth and Addison so I've seen a lot of planes over the years and have a lot of stuff to compare what I saw to, but what amounted to a giant sliver of "darker knight sky" and some lights that didn't resemble a commercial or private jet, is still a difficult thing to discern precisely.

I wish it had been travelling overhead so I could get a better perspective on it. And no, I don't own a smart phone so there's no pics or vids from me.
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What were you smokin? ;)

"Black triangle craft" is the term used by UFO=Alien proponents, hence the attitude is that you are talking about an alien UFO.

Folks here are trying to nicely tell you that you cannot know the size and distance of an unknown object without having a valid points of reference both between you and the object and beyond the object. The fact that you will not admit you do not know the actual size or distance of this unknown object is telling.

You are not providing any solid information here, and nobody is going to just take your word that what you saw was NOT simply an airplane you have never seen before. You will have to provide more evidence.

How did you determine its size and distance?
If it had lights, it could have been an aircraft. What color were they?
If you saw it just from the side, how did you determine it was triangular in shape?
How did you rule out the possibility of this being an aircraft besides saying, "I just know it wasn't an aircraft?"

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seen...or seen?

If it was large...and not a butterfly or something, has anyone else seen it? Did it/they see you? Did you wave back hello? Guess you weren't the droid(s) they were looking for...
 
This whole discussion has got me wondering. If a real UFO really existed, and one really saw it (here meaning "exotic craft", not just "unidentified object"), how would one know this to be the case, and not that one was fooling oneself or being fooled?
 
mike3 said:
This whole discussion has got me wondering. If a real UFO really existed, and one really saw it (here meaning "exotic craft", not just "unidentified object"), how would one know this to be the case, and not that one was fooling oneself or being fooled?
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It would come back to the exact issues faced with the reports on this page. How can we independently identify any behavior that could be attributed to activity unexpected from any aerial craft currently in operation.

Now if we have a UFO that behaves just like a 747 - especially at night we have no hope :(
 
I was going to see how long it took before people realised. :D
Way back during the early days of the JREF Forum, the time of Deisel, Ed (God), Hal Bidlack, and the oh so hilarious BigFig, I had pulled April Fool stunt where I suddenly rediscovered religion. I didn't expect to fool anyone, but I got a lot of responses on the lines of some in this thread. Reading UnrepentantSinner's OP was almost like Deja Vu.
 
Susheel said:
I was going to see how long it took before people realised. :D
Way back during the early days of the JREF Forum, the time of Deisel, Ed (God), Hal Bidlack, and the oh so hilarious BigFig, I had pulled April Fool stunt where I suddenly rediscovered religion. I didn't expect to fool anyone, but I got a lot of responses on the lines of some in this thread. Reading UnrepentantSinner's OP was almost like Deja Vu Woo.
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Fixed it for you.
 
Susheel said:
I was going to see how long it took before people realised. :D
Way back during the early days of the JREF Forum, the time of Deisel, Ed (God), Hal Bidlack, and the oh so hilarious BigFig, I had pulled April Fool stunt where I suddenly rediscovered religion. I didn't expect to fool anyone, but I got a lot of responses on the lines of some in this thread. Reading UnrepentantSinner's OP was almost like Deja Vu.
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Not that I want to turn an April Fools prank into a teaching moment, but it's always worth mentioning. Far too many of us suffer from "smartest guys in the room" syndrome and we fail to apply Occam's razor. It's part of the reason this is the James Randi Educational Foundation forum and not the Carl Sagan, Isaac Asimov or Michael Shermer Educational Foundation forum.

And I'll leave it at that... though, if I had a camera that could take decent night photos, I would do so showing you the night sky east of the parking lot south of our corporate campus that inspired the OP. If there were slow moving traingular craft that fly over populated areas paralleling or nearly so highways, the location I was referring to would have been perfect.

Yet, in 16+ years of actively looking up for anything, all I have seen are known aircraft, meteors, satellites, Iridium flares, comets, planets, etc. My one question to UFOlogists is why someone like me, who is not inherently averse to the presence of alien spacecraft has never once in all those years or many years prior of skywatching, never, ever seen anything that could be described as a UFO one would consider an ET? Why is it me, who actively looks for such things on a nearly daily basis that has never seen anything, but some numbnuts in BF Poland or Montana sees them?
 
UnrepentantSinner said:
Not that I want to turn an April Fools prank into a teaching moment,
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See here for an even better illustration, in my humble opinion. Even after several of us outed him, folks still kept responding to the OP about how stupid his conspiracy theory was. Examples like that make me wonder what compels folks to post here.
 
carlitos said:
See here for an even better illustration, in my humble opinion. Even after several of us outed him, folks still kept responding to the OP about how stupid his conspiracy theory was. Examples like that make me wonder what compels folks to post here.
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That was an awesome read and a perfect example of what I (and you) are talking about.
 
UnrepentantSinner said:
My one question to UFOlogists is why someone like me, who is not inherently averse to the presence of alien spacecraft has never once in all those years or many years prior of skywatching, never, ever seen anything that could be described as a UFO one would consider an ET? Why is it me, who actively looks for such things on a nearly daily basis that has never seen anything, but some numbnuts in BF Poland or Montana sees them?
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This is an easy one. Every time you look down or go inside the sky fills up with spacecraft.
When ever you look up the spacecraft all dive behind clouds or buildings.

Yes. It is a personal thing. The alien beings from another world just don't like you.
 
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