Natural Born Skeptic
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I apologize for my previous post direct at you, *assuming* your characterization above is accurate (I will let WC say if it is). Speaking for myself I can say the above don't apply to me, and I can say that I can see possible scenarios in which Zimmerman is 100% to blame, and other scenarios in which Martin initiated violence.I admit it's merely a suspicion; it's just a bit odd that he (and in fairness not just he) comes up with a special reason why every single thing that casts doubt upon Zimmerman's story doesn't or shouldn't count; but things that don't cast any such doubt, don't get the same scrutiny. A witness who sees Zimmerman being pummeled is reliable; one who doesn't see that is questionable. One can tell by ear that the crying voice is Zimmerman based on what we know his voice sounds like from the 911 call; but when one tries to use technology to accomplish the same end it's "woo". Trayvon's girlfriend has been proven to have been on the phone exactly when she claimed to be; but the remainder of her testimony is "not credible" anyway. Zimmerman thinking Martin "suspicious" because he was black like the suspect in some burglary months prior and choosing to follow him by vehicle and on foot while describing him using expletives on the phone with police was reasonable; Martin reacting negatively in any way to being followed by some stranger in the middle of the night who continued to pursue even after Martin ran is irrational and makes him the aggressor. And so on, and so forth.
EVEN if Martin initiated violence, it's also possible he actually thought he was defending himself. OR it could have been aggressive violence. No way to know at this point at least based on the media info.