When will the AE911 petition finally reach juggernaut strength of 1%?

When will the AE911 petition reach juggernaut strength of 1%?

  • 20 years

    Votes: 3 1.4%

  • 50 years

    Votes: 2 0.9%

  • Never

    Votes: 80 36.4%

  • Who cares?….it's retarded anyway.....

    Votes: 135 61.4%
  • Total voters
    220
atavisms said:
This is not uncommon, especially if a person has died in recent years and often times, even with someone long dead their affiliations often remain intact posthumously. And why wouldn't they? Death does not diminish one's accomplishments or what one stood or fought against while they were alive.

The idea (Ive seen repeatedly) that there is any significant statistical correlation between the number of architects/engineers who have signed the AE911TRUTH.ORG http://www2.ae911truth.org/signpetition.php petition, vs. those who have not, is fallacious because it compares two different sample groups as if they were one. These include those who have researched beyond the official conspiracy theory (and of these the majority realize that the anomalies far surpass anything we should expect; even with such unprecedented events, -vs the vast majority. who get their information from the corporate media and for the most part have never even heard of Building 7.
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"Old Joe voted Democrat all his life so why should a little thing like death stop him now".

(Chicago ward boss)
 
Update near the end of the month:
Oystein said:
A&E signatures:
jan 29: 1660
feb 14: 1664
4 new signatures in 16 days, which is 1 new A&E professional convinced by every one of the already existing 1660 A&E once every 18.2 years
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feb 14: 1664
feb 28: 1671
7 new signatures in 14 days, which is 1 new A&E professional convinced by every one of the already existing 1664 A&E once every 9.1 years

Oystein said:
Other Supporters:
jan 29: 14,288
feb 14: 14,374
86 new signatures in 16 days, which is 1 new Other Supporter convinced by every one of the already existing 14,288 OS once every 7.3 years
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feb 14: 14,374
feb 28: 14,439
65 new signatures in 16 days, which is 1 new Other Supporter convinced by every one of the already existing 14,374 OS once every 8.5 years

So the A&E have been doing relatively well the last 2 weeks. Still fewer new signatures per week than a year ago.
 
I love these little updates Oystein does. It's some what comforting to watch an organisation as malicious as ae911 slowly die and shrivel further into insignificance..

Keep up the good work Oystein :)
 
This is a brilliant calculation. Thank you for the effort.

Does anyone have the chance to ask Gage for a comment?
 
Could you provide a graph showing the declining numbers over time?

I suspect what this is showing is that almost all the recruiting is done by a few or even one person. So as membership goes up, the ratio of existing members to newly recruited members goes down.
 
Scott Sommers said:
Could you provide a graph showing the declining numbers over time?

I suspect what this is showing is that almost all the recruiting is done by a few or even one person. So as membership goes up, the ratio of existing members to newly recruited members goes down.
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I did a graphic two weeks ago:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8026081&postcount=115

Does that help? Yes, the ratio of existing members to newly recruited members goes down all the time, but even the total number of new recruits per week or month has been going down significantly ther last two years. So not only does the membership base fail totally in recruiting, the central propaganda bureau is getting less and less effective, or perhaps they are getting closer to saturating their total potential.
 
Ahh on the homepage of ae911truth.org there is a new fundraiser:

Ten-City Canada Tour

Raised $120 of $3,200
2 contributors | Ends Apr 8

Major tour from West to East to support the petition for a new 9/11 investigation in Canadian parliament - our best hope for a real WTC investigation. Donate today.
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So it's
mar 07: $120 (2 contributors), ends Apr 8, $target 3,200
32 days to go, $3,080 missing
That would require $96.25 per day from now on. Last fundraiser started with an expectation of somnething like $1300 per day, but actually managed to collect only 10% of that. They are getting really careful with their expectations!
Who is going to bet they'll reach their target in time? :p


And why I am at it:

A&E - mar 07: 1,672 (1 new in 8 days)
OS - mar 07: 14,485 (46 new in 8 days)

So in the aftermath of NoI, non-professionals are growing nicely, prodessionals almost stall. As expected.
 
Oystein said:
Ahh on the homepage of ae911truth.org there is a new fundraiser:



So it's
mar 07: $120 (2 contributors), ends Apr 8, $target 3,200
32 days to go, $3,080 missing
That would require $96.25 per day from now on. Last fundraiser started with an expectation of somnething like $1300 per day, but actually managed to collect only 10% of that. They are getting really careful with their expectations!
Who is going to bet they'll reach their target in time? :p


And why I am at it:

A&E - mar 07: 1,672 (1 new in 8 days)
OS - mar 07: 14,485 (46 new in 8 days)

So in the aftermath of NoI, non-professionals are growing nicely, prodessionals almost stall. As expected.
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Oboyoboyoboyoboy...

5 days later:

- fundraiser still stuck at $120 (2 contributors)
- A&E still at 1672
- Other supporters increased by only 9, now 14,494

Seems like no one cares for the Canadian petition.
Seems like the departure of Brian Romanoff due to the NoI disagreement left their petition-check team seriously understaffed.
Or perhaps they are dying even sooner.
 
Ides of March.

Fundraiser still at $120 (2 contributors), goal 3200 till April 8
A&E 1674 (+3 in 16 days since feb 28th)
OS: 14,507 (+68 in 16 days since feb 28th)

That's so far a really really bad month for AE911T!
 
I just noticed a second current fundraiser on the AE911T homepage, this one for "BFT Digital Distribution": "Get 9/11: Blueprint for Truth on Netflix, iTunes, Blockbuster, Aggregator contracts".
http://widget.chipin.com/widget/id/882604da58b0c54e

Started: Mar 3
Target: $4,700 by Mar 24
Current: $879.11 (15 contributors)
At this pace ($58.60/day) they'll get there in 65 days and miss the target date by 2 months. They needed $223,81/day, nearly 4 times as much as they get.


The other numbers as of mar 18:
  • A&E: stuck at 1,674
  • OS: stuck at 14,507
  • Fundraiser "Eleven-City Canada Tour": $745 (15 contributors). Since mar 12, that's $104/day. They needed then $114/day, so that is almost on pace.
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    With the singature numbers stuck, it seems like they are really feeling Brian Romanoff's departure ;)
 
Oystein said:
With the singature numbers stuck, it seems like they are really feeling Brian Romanoff's departure ;)
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Great work. This is very interesting to me.

What is it that Brian Romanoff did to raise this money and recruit members? Since all this money comes from individual donations, what was he doing? Running around to coffee shops? Phoning up all the local crazies that he knows? Any ideas exactly what he did that could be missed?
 
No no much more mundane than that: He was the main guy in charge of checking the validity of new signatures. You know, see if a professional engineer's license # matched the name on the application, such stuff. Or that the name is not "Darth Vader", or other silly crap that they had plenty of in the early days. When you sign the petition, it only shows up after approval by Brian, team or successor. Remember, a while ago I submitted a fake signature as "other supporter", iirc - using real name and everything, but made it clear in the "personal message" box that I actually think they are bunk and was only testing the system. A while later, maybe 2 weeks, I got a reply from Brian informing me courteously that my signature was rejected, but no harm done.

This reminds me actually - when I checked membership development after the NoI event, and there wasn't any, really, I forgot that any new signers might be delayed by days or weeks.
 
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Oystein said:
I just noticed a second current fundraiser on the AE911T homepage, this one for "BFT Digital Distribution": "Get 9/11: Blueprint for Truth on Netflix, iTunes, Blockbuster, Aggregator contracts".
http://widget.chipin.com/widget/id/882604da58b0c54e

Started: Mar 3
Target: $4,700 by Mar 24
Current: $879.11 (15 contributors)
At this pace ($58.60/day) they'll get there in 65 days and miss the target date by 2 months. They needed $223,81/day, nearly 4 times as much as they get.


The other numbers as of mar 18:
  • A&E: stuck at 1,674
  • OS: stuck at 14,507
  • Fundraiser "Eleven-City Canada Tour": $745 (15 contributors). Since mar 12, that's $104/day. They needed then $114/day, so that is almost on pace.

With the singature numbers stuck, it seems like they are really feeling Brian Romanoff's departure ;)
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Nothing new on both fundraisers, both still stuck.
mar 22:

Two days to go on the latter. I see another TM target getting missed badly...
 
Oystein said:
Nothing new on both fundraisers, both still stuck.
mar 22:

Two days to go on the latter. I see another TM target getting missed badly...
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The end day for the BFT Digital Distribution fundraiser came and went without a single other dollar chipped in and only 18% of the target reached. They made $879.11 in 21 days = $42/day. Average contributor payed $58.60.

mar 26:
 
Oystein said:
Average contributor payed $58.60.
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There is one born every second.....:cool:

Just to put the support of the A&E911 gang into context; the KKK has 3-4 times as many (official) members as the A&E911. I do think its easier to find engineers and architects than real racisist, so why are the A&E911 numbers so low?:D
 
I'm back :)

I stayed away for a few months to catch my breath.....the topic is just too interesting for me to completely give it up

:)
 
Cmon truthers!

Gage has only $955 for his earth-shattering-new investigation generating Canada tour!

This is the best hope you have...........all the youtube videos......all the powerpoint slides.........all the truther papers that never quite made it to peer review........all the posts on internet forums....all the truther rallies that no one shows up for...

It all comes down to this!

The Canada tour.....donate now so Richard can upgrade to the king size bed in the hotel!
 
newton3376 said:
Cmon truthers!

Gage has only $955 for his earth-shattering-new investigation generating Canada tour!

This is the best hope you have...........all the youtube videos......all the powerpoint slides.........all the truther papers that never quite made it to peer review........all the posts on internet forums....all the truther rallies that no one shows up for...

It all comes down to this!

The Canada tour.....donate now so Richard can upgrade to the king size bed in the hotel!
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Hehe yeah only $18 short of a decent room-service breakfast ^^

But - why do you have $955? I can Ctrl-F5 my heart out, the campaign is stuck at $745 on my computer :confused:
 
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