What's wrong with Derrick Bell?

[Virus]

So who's going to prove that white supremacism is an integral component of the American system?

 

[Ausmerican]

So who's going to prove that white supremacism is an integral component of the American system?

Why? What does it have to do with the OP?
College professor has theory that may be incorrect! Heretic! Burn all associated with him!
Even if his theory is wrong, what does that say about him that diminishes his character to the extent that being near him is a "bombshell" with regard to Obama?

 

[RandFan]

So who's going to prove that white supremacism is an integral component of the American system?

I'm not interested in defending Bells ideas. But thanks for the offer. Hey, did you come up with anything on Bell that would justify the Brietbart smear on Obama yet? We're all waiting breathlessly.

 

[Chaos]

Why? What does it have to do with the OP?
College professor has theory that may be incorrect! Heretic! Burn all associated with him!
Even if his theory is wrong, what does that say about him that diminishes his character to the extent that being near him is a "bombshell" with regard to Obama?

Or rather, what does it say about the rest of the USA, particularly right-wingers, that his theory - right or wrong - causes such rabid reactions?

As my dentist used to say, "The way you scream, it seems I hit a nerve."

 

[SezMe]

So who's going to prove that white supremacism is an integral component of the American system?

Strawman. White supremacism is not the same as racism. It's also not the topic of this thread. Do endeavor to keep up.

 

[leftysergeant]

So who's going to prove that white supremacism is an integral component of the American system?

He may have been wrong about the possibility of ever eliminating racism, but the process is going to take a lot more than one life time, and should be an on-going struggle, until society really is post-racial.

White nationallists are not going to grow brains overnight, you know, nor will they cease to be a threat to the species until the last of them dies.

 

[Mumbles]

So who's going to prove that white supremacism is an integral component of the American system?

Have you ever noticed how many white people go absolutely bonkers over the idea of Affirmative Action, to the point of routinely using it to attack black people even when it makes no sense (eg. Calling Obama an Affirmative Action President, as Limbaugh, Trump, and Buchanan all said), but nobody seems to get bent out of shape over mediocre legacy admissions or hires?

Have you heard that schools in the US are every bit as segregated as they were before Brown vs Board, with many black children still using worn-out books in run-down schools, particularly compared to many private schools?

Have you noticed how many people swallowed the lie that the 2008 financial crisis was caused by banks loaning money to black people under the CRA, rather than due to the wildly over leveraged and fraud-wracked MBS and CDS markets, despite the fact that CRA loans actually performed pretty well?

did you see how right-wing talkers pushed the idea that the Affordable Care Act, and the Stimulus Bill, are actually Obama's secret plan for reparations? Or how Newt latched onto the phrase "Kenyan anti-colonialist" to describe Obama's rather moderate policies? Or how both he and Rick Santorum attempted to portray black people as welfare-lovers who don't understand how to work?

I wouldn't say that Bell's right, but he wrote quite a bit on the subject, and the current Breitbart hysteria has analyzed precisely none of it.

 

[A'isha]

So who's going to prove that white supremacism is an integral component of the American system?

Here you go. Have fun.

Now what does this have to do with Obama, or even with footage of him and Professor Bell that, despite being broadcast on American public television first in 1990 and again in 2008, not a single person seemed to care about until Breitbart told you guys you suddenly needed to freak out over it?

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Who's Derrick Bell and what's wrong with him?

He was a good player as I recall, but he's been retired for over 10 years.

 

[Virus]

Strawman. White supremacism is not the same as racism. It's also not the topic of this thread. Do endeavor to keep up.

As I said before, Bell doesn't claim that there's racism. He claims the USA is institutionslly white supremacist at its core.


You keep up.

 

[crimresearch]

As I said before, Bell doesn't claim that there's racism. He claims the USA is institutionslly white supremacist at its core.


You keep up.

No, he claims that the doctrine of whites holding more power than minorities is long standing and still evident in many practices and artifacts.

Who is going to be gullible enough to fall for your spinning white 'supremacy' into pretending that Bell has claimed that the entire country is run by the Klan or the Aryan Nation?

Do you have anything that is either correct or useful? Because you certainly haven't produced it so far in this thread.

 

[RandFan]

As I said before, Bell doesn't claim that there's racism. He claims the USA is institutionslly white supremacist at its core.

And?

 

[daredelvis]

However, if you read anything about Bell's critical race theory, you will begin to understand that those thoughts were already explicit or implicit in the man's work.

After you are done moving those goalposts, could you please illuminate us with Bell's critical race theory?

Any chance Brainster will address this question, or will this just be another turd left to float in the punch bowl of critical thinking?

Daredelvis

 

[SezMe]

No, he claims that the doctrine of whites holding more power than minorities is long standing and still evident in many practices and artifacts.

Who is going to be gullible enough to fall for your spinning white 'supremacy' into pretending that Bell has claimed that the entire country is run by the Klan or the Aryan Nation?

Do you have anything that is either correct or useful? Because you certainly haven't produced it so far in this thread.

Virus, I'm simply quoting this so as to make it harder for you to squint your eyes and miss it.

 

[Virus]

CRT recognizes that racism is engrained in the fabric and system of the American society. The individual racist need not exist to note that institutional racism is pervasive in the dominant culture. This is the analytical lens that CRT uses in examining existing power structures. CRT identifies that these power structures are based on white privilege and white supremacy, which perpetuates the marginalization of people of color.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory

Squint at that.

 

[crimresearch]

Squint at that.

Yeah.. we already know that you have taken one phrase and changed a few letters to fake a different phrase... it's nothing to brag about.

 

[A'isha]

Oh noes!!

Wait...you haven't answered any of the questions put to you in this thread, so I'm not sure why your giant boldface is even relevant to the discussion at hand.

Are you actually going to engage with anybody posting in this thread, or are single-sentence content-free replies pretty much all you have?

 

[RandFan]

CRT identifies that these power structures are based on white privilege and white supremacy, which perpetuates the marginalization of people of color.

Squint at that.

And? Seriously? SO WHAT IF THEY ARE BASED ON WHITE SUPREMACY?

Can you answer a question? Or is it all nudge nudge wink wink? Assuming that the power structures are based on white privilege... what?

 

[angrysoba]

Apparently it is more offensive to call one to task for roboposting poorly vetted and inaccurate talking points than it is to robopost said poorly vetted and inaccurate talking points in the first place. Lazy.

Daredelvis

It is funny what irks some people. Speaking of roboposting:

Derrick Bell:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2175

Let’s see now:

In the immediate aftermath of Martin Luther King, Jr.’s assassination in 1968, members of the Black Law Students Association at Harvard University Law School pressured their school to hire a nonwhite minority professor; this led to Bell’s hiring in 1969, and two years later Bell became the first tenured black faculty member in the law school’s history.

From the very outset of his stay at Harvard, Bell was acutely aware of the fact that he lacked the qualifications that traditionally were prerequisites for an appointment there: He had neither graduated with distinction from a prestigious law school, nor clerked for the Supreme Court, nor practiced law at a major firm. Yet Bell mocked such criteria as being nothing more than the exclusionary constructs of a racist white power structure seeking to deny blacks an opportunity to teach at the nation’s elite universities.

Virus, do you not get the impression you are the victim of a demagogue? Eating this kind of crap out of the palm of Horowitz’s hand? I mean do you choke on your breakfast cereal when you read that shortly after Martin Luther King’s murder, a black man who became a law professor at Harvard hadn’t been a clerk on the Supreme Court or worked at a prestigious law firm? Do you really find such a thing so difficult to comprehend?

It was in the mid-1970s that Bell pioneered the field of critical race theory. He was angered by what he viewed as the slow progress of racial reform in the United States, and he contended that the gains brought about by the civil rights laws of the 1960s were gradually being eroded.

Radical stuff!

The left need racism. If it's not there, they need to create it.

Really? The left need…

Just who is it bringing up this dead topic twenty years on? The right! Breitbart, Hannity, O’Reilly, Virus, Brainster and WildCat. It seems to me to be a perfect inversion of your claim: If there is no evidence that Obama is a black supremacist who hates whitey, then they need to create it.

 

[angrysoba]

Bell wasn't just saying that there's racism. He said white supremacism is deliberatly built into the system.

So who's going to prove that white supremacism is an integral component of the American system?

As I said before, Bell doesn't claim that there's racism. He claims the USA is institutionslly white supremacist at its core.


You keep up.

Does this mean Bell believes that the United States of America was racist at its founding?

You would disagree with that, Virus? Really?

Or does it mean that attempts to eradicate this racism have not been entirely successful?

You would disagree with that?