Merged "Iron-rich spheres" - scienctific explanation?

[Java Man]

You simply don't have the courage of your convictions to answer the hard questions honestly. Tell us, why should we entertain you if you are going to ignore questions? What is your point? Why are you even here?

Just put less points into a single response and you'll have a better chance of having them replied to.

 

[NoahFence]

Totally dodging?? I responded to your post about the hundred foot projection of pieces calling you out on your exaggeration and you called it "cherry picking". Care to answer where you got that a charge made to cut through a beam should have to project that beam hundreds of feet to get the job done?

Gage, Richard

See also - retarded theories put forth by ignorant idiots


Dude. It's central to all Truther claims.

 

[000063]

Considering that I have pointed out the evidence actively contradicting the claim of an explosion consistent with explosives, you are wrong.

What are you defining as "strangely fa-"

So it's just an opinion, no objective evidence. Got it.

Microspheres are cited as evidence of thermite alone, not explosives. Not explosives with thermite components. Stop conflating the two. It's like saying a strawberry milkshake should have green leaves on top because a strawberry does.

Chris7 has claimed, repeatedly, that it could only be thermite. I also note that you do not directly admit other things than "explosives" could've caused the spheres.

Chris7 has claimed, repeatedly, that it could only be thermite. I also note that you do not directly admit other things than "explosives" could've caused the spheres.

So you agree with Chris7 and believe that only thermite could produce microspheres or do you believe that explosives could produce such microspheres too?

Ahahahahaha.

Such a false dilemma. Strictly amateur hour, folks.

I do not believe only thermite can produce such microspheres. I believe that regular fires can also produce them, as well as other processes other than thermite and fire. I do not know whether explosives could produce them. However, since things other than thermite can produce such microspheres, C7's assertion that only Thermite can produce them is manifestly false.

False dichotomy.

Loads of processes produce iron microspheres. If you had bothered to do any research on the subject you would know this.

Iron microspheres are in the very room you are sitting in at the moment.

Ahh! Where!? Get them away!

 

[000063]

Just put less points into a single response and you'll have a better chance of having them replied to.

Okay.

Do you believe that explosive charges, if present on 9/11, would have been in or near the impact zones of the planes which hit the Twin Towers, as you seemed to be saying in post 2048?

If the collapses were "vertical", what hit WTC 7 and set it on fire?

Over to you.

 

[Java Man]

Gage, Richard

See also - retarded theories put forth by ignorant idiots


Dude. It's central to all Truther claims.

Still nothing substantial in your response and yet you complain about me. Are you going to post references or an opinion?

 

[000063]

I made a short post, JM, it's directly above yours. 2048. Any time.

 

[NoahFence]

Still nothing substantial in your response and yet you complain about me. Are you going to post references or an opinion?

It's a perfectly fine response to the question you posed:

Care to answer where you got that a charge made to cut through a beam should have to project that beam hundreds of feet to get the job done?

Richard Gage. That explosives threw these steel beams hundreds of feet is the central tenent of Twooferdom. It's right up there, invented on the spot by people who have no idea what they're talking about, with thermite.

 

[000063]

"If you wanted the building to come down, and blame it on fire, which is not explosive in nature, you would use a different type of charge, an incendiary to cut the beams. You would NOT use explosives which would give away your project."
-Richard Gage

"The explosives had to be so intense such as to hurl these beams at 65 mph laterally, landing five hundred feet away."
-Richard Gage



There you have it. Nano-thermite composite explosive is likely an explosive non-explosive. I know that probably doesn't make sense to the bee dunkers; it only makes sense if you know the "truth" about 9/11.

Wake up people! Wake up!

Wow, that only took about sixty seconds of searching.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21436

3. Multi-ton steel perimeter wall sections were ejected laterally at 60 mph to a distance of 600 ft. That speed and distance indicates that a high-pressure explosion initiated the ejection.

http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911...ser_op=view_printable&PAGE_id=106&lay_quiet=1

According to these extreme views expressed by David Chandler and Anders Borkman, AE911T takes the position that a demolition based on destablization of an upper portion to create the conditions for a highly controlled collapse utilizing gravity is not a possibility. As a result, AE911T takes the unreasonably extreme position that 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking must have been "pulverized" in mid-air by an extreme number of explosive devices. They take the extreme position that multi-ton steel sections ejected up to 600 ft laterally were somehow thrown by extremely forceful explosive devices.

http://www2.ae911truth.org/twintowers.php
http://www2.ae911truth.org/images/gallery/case4EDcardfront.jpg (Pt 4).

The 4- to 20-ton steel columns & beams were broken apart at bolted and welded connections and ejected laterally up to 500 feet.

 

[DGM]

Just put less points into a single response and you'll have a better chance of having them replied to.

So, it's an attention span thing? He asked why you don't answer the hard questions honestly. Would you answer them if he gave you them one at a time in shorter sentences?

 

[000063]

If 2048 is any indication, no.

 

[The Almond]

Just put less points into a single response and you'll have a better chance of having them replied to.

I love it! It's like these things Truthers keep saying:

"Spoon feed me a short, easy to read statement that I can rebut with another short, flippant, off hand remark. I am Truther, hear me roar!"

"I only want to read things that don't make me think!"

"I just want to make statements that everyone takes as true at face value!"

"Why does everyone insist on fact checking? Isn't my uninformed opinion enough proof?"

 

[000063]

And then complaining about how your opposition gets to make claims without evidence.

While ignoring any evidence they actually do present.

 

[Java Man]

Richard Gage. That explosives threw these steel beams hundreds of feet is the central tenent of Twooferdom. It's right up there, invented on the spot by people who have no idea what they're talking about, with thermite.

So you agree with Gage? Or why do you presuppose I should think that nonsense??? If you have an issue with Gage take it to him and keep presupposing things about me.

 

[000063]

Then shut up about Gage's claims and respond to post 2048.

Any time.

 

[Java Man]

Then shut up about Gage's claims and respond to post 2048.

Any time.

O don't see Noah taking any interest in following your request and responding to post 2048, but you're free to keep trying.

 

[000063]

Sorry, I meant post 2084. Viz:

Okay.

Do you believe that explosive charges, if present on 9/11, would have been in or near the impact zones of the planes which hit the Twin Towers, as you seemed to be saying in post 2048?

If the collapses were "vertical", what hit WTC 7 and set it on fire?

Over to you.

The one directly addressed to you, in short, concise format.

 

[Java Man]

Okay.

Do you believe that explosive charges, if present on 9/11, would have been in or near the impact zones of the planes which hit the Twin Towers, as you seemed to be saying in post 2048?

Yes

If the collapses were "vertical", what hit WTC 7 and set it on fire?

Over to you.

That's a good question since there were buildings that also got hit by debris and didn't catch fire nor fall to the ground. I figure falling stuff from the airplanes would have had the same odds at hitting other buildings and setting them on fire. Why do you think other buildings did not burn?

 

[triforcharity]

Yet when the WTC7 collapse is challenged on the basis that no other steel structure has collapsed due to fire alone it is disregarded. So "common observation" is valid with iron-rich spheres, but not so with steel buildings.

Well, since we know the hilited is not in fact true, care to take another stab at it?

Maybe shift the goalposts?

 

[triforcharity]

Good, you caught on and actually challenged the validity of my statement unlike 000063 who clearly tried to make the false seem possible. It is interesting how 000063 brought forth reasons to support the idea that you quoted me in 5 minutes by questioning my capacity to "have the slightest idea how many ways there are to make notes and bookmarks for yourself? ". Then saying "I have literally dozens on Google Bookmarks right now.", as if that meant he could a) happen to have my post bookmarked and b) find it within a few minutes time to quote me.

Since the burden of proof isn't on him he can make these statements to promote the validity of phenomenon that didn't actually occur. In this case you quoting me within 5 minutes. Nevertheless an alternate reality is simply created out of the blue in the debunker camp.

See now how your lack of burden of proof becomes your own worst enemy.

Seems like logical ******* thinking to me.

I can give you RedIbis saying that be believes the first responders are liars and in on the entire plot to cover up this supposed "Inside Job".

Want it?

I don't think they fooled the first responders. That's the problem.

Yeah, bookmarked. Thanks for playing.

 

[beachnut]

Yes



That's a good question since there were buildings that also got hit by debris and didn't catch fire nor fall to the ground. I figure falling stuff from the airplanes would have had the same odds at hitting other buildings and setting them on fire. Why do you think other buildings did not burn?

Wow, you are just a simple troll, you are not helping understand 911, you are exposing your ignorance.

Because they did. ??? Why are you here? Not to learn, you are here to troll and do it poorly! Is there a troll contest for you 911 truth followers who have failed for 10 years to figure out 911?

Fire can cause iron-rich spheres, why can't you find evidence and information to help? No goals for you?